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    Got my new bike!

    My wife and I have been doing a little more riding lately so we got her a new Specialized Ariel. That meant that I had to have a new bike ASAP or my head was going to explode with forces previously unknown to humans. The neighbors would be upset if this happened outside because that is hard to clean off the walls...

    My old bike was a used Trek 7300 Multitrack that I've had for about a year or so.
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    Had an old Sun Key West cruiser before that. (still have both for now). I had to have something different. I wanted no suspension, more road and path but fun and kind of upright to see the sights, but more aggressive than a beach cruiser. Also had to have some "cool factor" built in. I started looking at the flat bar bikes and began leaning to the city/urban/commuter bikes. I decided that an internal gear hub was cool and even better would be a belt drive. None of my friends had ay of those features. I would be the first on the block.

    I narrowed down to more mainstream brands and 1,000 bucks. Scott Sub, Cannondale Bad Boy, Raleigh Misceo, , GT Eightball, Giant Seek.

    Cannondale was out for price and looks. I can't stand the whole flat black movement. it's old already, boring, no classic attributes at all.

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    Scott Sub 10 was ugly green and I was able to find a Sub 30 to ride, didn't have the IGH but at least I imagine. I liked the fenders and commuter look, but it didn't feel right. Maybe it was too laid down. Also the IGH Sub 10 would take a few months to get.

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    Raleigh Misceo was great and $1,300 wasn't too bad. Looked like crap in plain gray and black.

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    While at the Raleigh store, I did come across an Electra Moto. Cool bike and could be had with IGH 3 speed in off white frame. if available with an 8 speed, I would have done it. I wasn't quite ready to go with only 3 gears. I liked the fat tires and upright BMX style position. Probably would have killed me after a few miles though.

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    The GT was no where to be found anywhere and friends were negative about it so I sort of ignored it. Evan though there was a lot that i liked about it.
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    The Giant kept calling me, but I couldn't find a dealer with one in stock. The 2014 model would have been awesome in dark blue with cream tires!

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    Only one left available from Giant and it was wrong size. I finally found one about 50 miles away. A 2015 in Medium (i would need large). 50 Miles away is a big deal being as I would pass about 100 shops on the way. I told them I would try to make it the next afternoon. I was able to make it in the early afternoon. when I walked in, the sales girl looked at my and asked if I was Charlie here to see the Giant. it was in the back being prepped for me. Honestly, did not expect this from a bike shop in Miami! I moved out of Miami because of the opposite type of service. The bike was ready ASAP and I went for a ride. I liked the stance, the geometry felt good for what I wanted to do with the bike and the IGH seemed like it had the right ratios. I couldn't exactly put it through all paces I would have liked but enough to satisfy me. The Giant has a chain drive and I preferred a belt, but everything else was right, it would be an acceptable compromise. The only problem was the looks. This thing looked better than the Raleigh, but not much. The Cycle World Miami parts guru went to work and he found me some tires in brown and Ergon grips in brown. Once I got the bike and rode a bit, it would be no trouble to find a saddle in brown and this thing would look like classic meets modern industrial something or other? Then we had to find the bike in Large frame. a few calls to and from the Giant representative and they found one in Chicago that, if I committed, they would allocate and I could get it much faster than standard order.

    The parts and sales people kept me updated as my parts came in and within two weeks, a day ahead of schedule, the bike showed up. I got a picture of it all assembled on my phone compliments of the sales person. as you can imagine, this put me over the edge and, of course I had to rush over there just before closing time to touch it and feel it!

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    They were not in a rush to close the doors so, they went ahead and mounted the tires and grips for me.

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    I have only done a couple of short rides. So far, i like the bike. it's fun to play around on, popping off the saddle is quick and easy, jumping bumps and messing around is plenty of fun. The gears are OK. 3rd and 4th are a little rough and I hope that will break in some. the gap between 5th and 6th (i think) is bigger than the others and will take getting used to at the least. the balloon tires are awesome, they don't feel mushy at all. I will play with the pressure more in the future for a better report. The Trek had 700x38 these are 50 I think? The absorb lots of vibration and bumps. The frame is good and the fork is compliant. I wanted an all around bike and I may have found it. It should do everything well but nothing great.
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    That's really a cool bike!

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    The brown accent makes the bike interesting. You will definitely need a brown seat too. Surprised you wanted such big tires. Also, what makes you prefer the IGH over the traditional exterior gears?

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    I actually preferred it with black tires, but perhaps it will grow on me the more I look at it. Other than that it looks like a perfect buy and especially sounds like an awesome bike shop you got it at.

    Enjoy your new ride.

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    Is that the "would have been" brain-splattered house in Pic #10 ? I can see why you absolutely had to get that bike. Fun story and happy ending. I like your bike the way you set it up.
    I know that half of what I buy I don't need. The problem is, I don't know which half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanderer View Post
    That's really a cool bike!
    Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by practical View Post
    The brown accent makes the bike interesting. You will definitely need a brown seat too. Surprised you wanted such big tires. Also, what makes you prefer the IGH over the traditional exterior gears?
    I agree on the brown saddle, just have to pick one, leaning on brooks to keep with the old meets new theme? I didn't think I wanted big tires but once I rode the bike, I realized they work well, so far...plus they come in brown and that worked out. Honestly i wanted IGH to have something different and I really liked the clean look of no derauiluliieres (that is how you spell it right?). The idea sounds good and the only drawback seams to be weight, albeit weight that unbalances the rear. I had never even ridden an IGH so, I had to have it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bub386 View Post
    I actually preferred it with black tires, but perhaps it will grow on me the more I look at it. Other than that it looks like a perfect buy and especially sounds like an awesome bike shop you got it at.

    Enjoy your new ride.
    The colors were gonna be a love it or hate it thing for sure. I'm an old fashioned guy that appreciates modern innovation. Yes, Cycle World in Miami did surprise me.

    Quote Originally Posted by cale View Post
    Is that the "would have been" brain-splattered house in Pic #10 ? I can see why you absolutely had to get that bike. Fun story and happy ending. I like your bike the way you set it up.
    Yes the gray would not have been to bad on the pink house. Thanks for reading and glad you enjoyed the story.

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    A quick update. Since I was off today, I rode to breakfast about 2-2.5 one way. Later rode to lunch.

    After lunch, I stopped by my favorite local shop to show the new bike. The owner was in and I told him I was disappointed I could not buy a bike for me from him like my wife did. I told him the story about the Miami store and he appreciated my desire to reward a store that had the right stock and service. He was not a Giant dealer, but I did ride the Scott he had. I am pretty much in the customer service/retail business so I like to give feedback and reward good service with loyalty.

    Anyway, I bought some stuff like seat bag and spare tube, pump etc. The guys in the back took a look at my IGH while installing the new stuff. I was worried that 3rd and 4th gear was kind of rough. the shifter adjustment was off a touch and he showed me how to fine tune it. On the stand, it already shifted better. On the road, much better! the rough is gone and the shift is much more firm/reliable. it never didn't shift or popped out of gear, but it just wasn't right and delayed the shift sometimes.

    The tires...stock was Schwalbe big apple 700x50, we replaced with big bens 700x50. besides color, the only difference is supposed to be the tread is deeper. When I picked up the bike, the tires were reported to be at max of 70psi. The were hard as rocks. Because I am not equipped for presta valves, I could not check air pressure. My pump has the fitting for it, but it is not working. I lowered the pressure down some to test. I liked the lower pressure, just like schwalbe.com said I would. The bike shop said that was no good and wanted to pump me up to 70 again. I said no way and we compromised at 60. The ride home was harsh and not like schwalbe.com promised. the sidewall says "35-70" and I think a less that 60 is the way to go. Before I got to the bike shop, I had done a fast-sharp turn in a parking lot and slipped both tires. I was leaned over pretty far and there was no gravel. I don't think that was air pressure fault like the bike shop said. More testing is needed to determine correct pressure.

    So, to answer anyone who was wondering why I went with the bike that had the big tires, they feel great so far. They do not feel mushy at all even when the air was low. I can be confident on hard pack sand/dirt because they offer some flotation. I don't feel any disadvantage over the 700x38 from my Trek. Skinny tires would have been lighter/faster acceleration, but I don't think there would have been any other advantage. I think the fat tires actually have the advantage with shock absorption and flotation.

    Brown saddle is still TBA. As are brown pedals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlieC View Post
    So, to answer anyone who was wondering why I went with the bike that had the big tires, they feel great so far. They do not feel mushy at all even when the air was low. I can be confident on hard pack sand/dirt because they offer some flotation. I don't feel any disadvantage over the 700x38 from my Trek. Skinny tires would have been lighter/faster acceleration, but I don't think there would have been any other advantage. I think the fat tires actually have the advantage with shock absorption and flotation.

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    Love the bike!

    I have 50 width tires on my rigid frame bike too. I love that I can ride anywhere with the same or even better comfort than those folks with "skinny" tires requiring a hybrid with a suspension fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swoodjr1 View Post
    Love the bike!

    I have 50 width tires on my rigid frame bike too. I love that I can ride anywhere with the same or even better comfort than those folks with "skinny" tires requiring a hybrid with a suspension fork.
    Thanks for the compliment.

    What tires do you have and what pressure are you running?

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    Update after a few miles

    Put a few more miles on her now. Not anything crazy, I mostly do 5-10 mile trips. I have a few of those done now, so maybe got about 30-40 miles total on the bike.

    After the adjustment, the IGH shifts much better. 4th gear still feels different from the others. it has a roughness to it. I will discuss with the bike shop.

    i use 5th most of the time. gives me 14-15 mph. Cadence(i think that's what everyone calls my pedal speed?) i think is high, but I cant keep up in 6th. 6th seems like it is a bigger jump up than the other gears, but I have not looked that up yet, it could just be my perception. I think I will end up riding 6th when i get a little more strength in the old legs. worst case, can change the sprocket to lower the ratio overall and bring 6th down some.

    I bought an air pressure gauge that works with the presta. I have the tire pressure down to 45 psi. This is much better than the 60. the tires still feel firm and not mushy or sloppy at all, but they absorb so much. I will try 40 and that might be as low as i want to go. i'm sure 40-45 will be the range.

    I need to figure out why my hands go numb after i get off the bike. Today, it felt like they were ready to go numb while riding, but i got home before they did. it doesn't happen every ride. I have read some of the threads about hand positions and numbness. i guess i will play with handlebar and grip adjustments to see if it helps.

    other than that, i added an under seat bag from Topeak to carry a tube, spoons, multi tool and short 15mm wrench. It also holds my little cable look. This is in addition to the little bag for my phone and wallet on he handlebar stem and the bluetooth speaker on the handle bar.

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    The cable lock fits inside once i kicked my wife's spare tube out.

    if anyone has questions about the balloon tires or IGH, let me know.

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    which size of saddle bag is that? I presume it's a small, but if it's a medium I'm actually really impressed by how small it looks. Regarding the hand numbness, mare sure your wrists are relatively straight (i.e. no (or a very little) bend in them).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bub386 View Post
    which size of saddle bag is that? I presume it's a small, but if it's a medium I'm actually really impressed by how small it looks. Regarding the hand numbness, mare sure your wrists are relatively straight (i.e. no (or a very little) bend in them).
    I'm not sure if it is the medium or large. it's not the small:

    Topeak® Cycling Accessories ? Products - Aero Wedge Pack, medium (Strap Mount)

    hard to show in picture but, i thought i had my wrist pretty straight. i think i will try adjust the grips up a touch ad see if makes a difference this afternoon when i use the bike to deliver a boat.

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    Not to derail the thread but the Electra Moto looks awesome. It reminds me of the Trek Sawyer. I like my Electra cruiser but having a few gears and better brakes would be so much better.

    I would love to get one but with 7ish gears and hydro disc brakes. But adding the couple of hundred to upgrade those 2 things I think would be better off just going with an 8.4 but man it's tempting. I may have to look into mores dip go for a test drive if my local superstore gets one in stock. My Trek card is starting to burn a hole.....

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    Brown Pedals

    One of the LBS had ordered some blue pedals for my Trek. I remembered that he also ordered a few other colors at the same time. Went by there and the "rootbeer" was still in stock. 25 bucks and they worked fine on my Trek so I grabbed them.

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    I may get some straps in the future, TBD.

    I did have to adjust the bearings since they were super tight. Maybe I'm wrong but, it seems like everything comes with bearings too tight? I should take apart my bike and check everything...does Chia only use air impact wrenches?

    Anyway, in other news...I have a few more miles on the bike. Last couple weeks has been busy so not as many as I would like. Now the wife says it's too hot to ride bikes!?! Solo it is. I guess here new Specialized will collect dust...

    Got the seat and grips adjusted better. seat keeps going higher and the grips went a little lower. I'm not sure the seat is finished rising yet. I'll keep going up until my hips start to rock (Elvis song?) and then back down, I think. Once I settle on seat height, I'll start looking for a brown seat. Probably go Brookes.

    Still like the bike. 4th gear still feels rough. I think the chain is too tight. I'll bring it in for the free first service and talk to them about it.

    The jump between 5th and 6th is still too much. I confirmed it is higher jump than between other gears, not just my imagination. I don't think it is worth changing the primary gears though. It's another TBD.

    Overall I'm happy with the IGH.

    Fat tires don't fall into the bike eating storm drain grates like this poor guy:
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    So, there's that. 45-50 PSI works good.

    I'm thinking about the Ergon GP3 with bar ends. Another TBD.

    Other than that, I decided I need a better seat bag. This is not TBD, I will have it:

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    Got it! Fits my tube, multi tool, air gauge and a short 15mm wrench. The Specialized tire spoons were too long so I had to put them in the handlebar bag.

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    BTW, I seem to get compliments on the new pedals from the ladies...my wife now hates them.

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    Need help from you guys. Rainy season is coming to Sunny South Florida. I will need some fenders to facilitate continued and uninterrupted riding. I was thinking about some wood fenders? maybe bamboo or something? I am open to suggestions on this one.

    I like the idea of these types but not sure what colors, wood type, style, length or etc:

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    Anybody have a suggestion?

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    Update. I've now done some more riding. Still like the bike. One note, the drag in the drive is noticeable. It is a strange thing. There doesn't seem to be any resistance to coasting or anything like that, but there is some sort of resistance when you pedal as compared to a derailleur bike.

    Tires I have been setting between 45-50 psi and let them go a couple weeks before I air them up again.

    Rainy season is here, and we got caught right after a rain and in South Florida you can't avoid puddles for very long. I had to make a decision on fenders/mudguards. Since I couldn't make up my mind, I ordered a set of Planet Bike fenders that looked decent and were cheap. They ended up working better than expected and they look awesome. I still have to do a little customizing to the rear cross brace, but a tie wrap works for now. Hardware also needs an upgrade but I can't really complain for $30!

    I also was not liking the seat after the 10 mile mark. I happened to find an Origin8 seat in brown and it looked worth the $25. I just put it on this afternoon. feels good in the driveway. We will see how it goes. The seat is surprisingly well made for $25. It looks great on the bike and if it feels good, I will consider it a smoking deal. If I don't like it, oh well.

    Jennifer at Lauderdale Cyclery, Call 954 565-5961 for Lauderdale Cyclery, your Fort Lauderdale bike shop. Our Fort Lauderdale bicycle repair department services all makes of bicycles with expert staff and fast turn around times. Lauderdale Cyclery is stocked with bicycle brands lik , did a great job of helping find and order the fenders and seat. They are a little closer to me than the, Cycle World Miami, Fl Bike Shop - Trek, Giant, Cervelo, Gary Fisher, Look Bicycles, Bike Repair, Spinning Shoes, GoPro & Garmin , Cycle World Miami store! If anyone is in these areas, they are worth checking out.

    By the way, if you want attention, especially on group rides, buy a hamburger seat bag. People will not stop talking about your "buns"!

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    GT Eightball? I bought one of the last 2015 models in stock.

    The price was too good to pass up.

    As I wanted an IGH bike with disc brakes.

    Flat bars don't for it for me so I'm going to replace them with classic North Road.

    There's only one fender so I'll either need a new fender set or remove the rear fender which looks ugly.

    It needs a leather saddle. Oh and it has 8 speeds but that's a good range for me with the Alfine hub.

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    Back in the 1950s and 60s, people tricked out cars. Now bikes. Humanity is making progress.

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