New Trek 1120
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New Trek 1120
Behold the new Trek 1120. Is it a hybrid? Is it an offroad tourer/bikepacking machine? Is it a 29+ dream machine? Perhaps all of the above? It's close to the Giant Toughroad in some ways and is definitely very far into the MTB spectrum of hybrids.
I think I'm in love.
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08-07-17, 09:39 PM
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Definitely a dedicated bikepacking machine and very much a mountain bike. It looks to have exactly the same frame as my Stache 7 but with a few more bottle and rack mounts included. The only other major differences are the rigid carbon fork, different drivetrain spec, and included racks.
I love my Stache, it's surprisingly fast on the road, climbs like a mountain goat and descends like a banshee. The cornering is incredibly intuitive and the bike is solidly built. 29 plus is a great option for bikepacking due to the extra float, traction and comfort. I am definitely considering picking up one of these forks to swap out for longer trips.
I think if you want a go any where adventure mountain bike but want something more playful than most other bikepacking specific bikes this is definitely one to look at. Or if you just want a mountain bike and the simplicity of a rigid bike is really appealing to you. 29 plus handles a fully rigid set up really well. I actually locked out the fork on my Stache one time for an entire mountain bike race and didn't realize until it was over.
I love my Stache, it's surprisingly fast on the road, climbs like a mountain goat and descends like a banshee. The cornering is incredibly intuitive and the bike is solidly built. 29 plus is a great option for bikepacking due to the extra float, traction and comfort. I am definitely considering picking up one of these forks to swap out for longer trips.
I think if you want a go any where adventure mountain bike but want something more playful than most other bikepacking specific bikes this is definitely one to look at. Or if you just want a mountain bike and the simplicity of a rigid bike is really appealing to you. 29 plus handles a fully rigid set up really well. I actually locked out the fork on my Stache one time for an entire mountain bike race and didn't realize until it was over.
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This is apparently the 1020? Maybe that's a mistake and it's an earlier version of the 1120? I saw it on MTBR.
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It does. The front rack is the 920 rack, but orange, and I'm not sure about the rear rack. Plus, it would be strange for them to break the naming convention if it was to be called a 1020. I m sure the MTBR poster made a typo while posting a pic of a prototype 1120.
08-10-17, 11:11 PM
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Looks prime for outfitting as a E-bike to turn every hill into a float down a flat road with a tail wind and making a 12 day credit-card tour in the bike lane from Seattle to San Diego, charging batteries in motel rooms at night. 
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The tires are definitely off-road, as is the frame. In the second pics the saddle looks MTB too, but you have positioned the saddle height like for road riding so I hope it has a dropper post
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And for aussies it would be over $3000. I'm sure it will have it's buyers but it's in a niche category that I have no interest in. part tourer, part MTB, part hybrid roadie. It will be good for the boys and girls doing not too serious gravel road touring, but really, a dropper post and no air forks?
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And for aussies it would be over $3000. I'm sure it will have it's buyers but it's in a niche category that I have no interest in. part tourer, part MTB, part hybrid roadie. It will be good for the boys and girls doing not too serious gravel road touring, but really, a dropper post and no air forks?
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Single chainrings setups have their proponents, and they are certainly cheaper for bike manufacturers to fit out with. Dropper posts are also cheap now, and are trendy, like the cheap coil spring forks on entry level hybrids. Good front air shocks cost bucks though, and rear ones a packet.
Trek make some good bikes but I think they went a bit loco on this one. I mean look at the advertising pic, no serious rider would be caught dead in that kind of terrain without at least a good set of fronts. There is no reason not to have them, and every reason to. Perhaps they should have marketed it as a beach cruiser
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08-12-17, 05:43 AM
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I think it would be a good contender for the great divide mountain bike route or something similar... That's what I think Trek had in mind.
08-12-17, 06:27 AM
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$3339.99 Cdn for an aluminum-framed, carbon-forked rigid 29er+ with dropper post, SLX drivetrain, a couple of racks, and nothing-special wheels? 31 lbs?
Trek will no doubt be hoping that the image the bike portrays will elicit further sales, but I think that won't necessarily work. Who would want this?
For genuine cross-terrain use -- on both paved and unpaved surfaces -- the bike's geometry is wrong and unnecessarily inefficient for road/gravel/dirt road riding. Too heavily biased toward current hardtail trail bike geometry. Giant's Toughroad platform is significantly superior for that application in all respects, and much, much less expensive -- and much lighter.
Mainly road touring? Above x2.
Will be interesting to see how this one goes.
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Agree; that, and off-road bike packing, is certainly the target application/image/demographic. But ...
$3339.99 Cdn for an aluminum-framed, carbon-forked rigid 29er+ with dropper post, SLX drivetrain, a couple of racks, and nothing-special wheels? 31 lbs?
Trek will no doubt be hoping that the image the bike portrays will elicit further sales, but I think that won't necessarily work. Who would want this?
For genuine cross-terrain use -- on both paved and unpaved surfaces -- the bike's geometry is wrong and unnecessarily inefficient for road/gravel/dirt road riding. Too heavily biased toward current hardtail trail bike geometry. Giant's Toughroad platform is significantly superior for that application in all respects, and much, much less expensive -- and much lighter.
Mainly road touring? Above x2.
Will be interesting to see how this one goes.
$3339.99 Cdn for an aluminum-framed, carbon-forked rigid 29er+ with dropper post, SLX drivetrain, a couple of racks, and nothing-special wheels? 31 lbs?
Trek will no doubt be hoping that the image the bike portrays will elicit further sales, but I think that won't necessarily work. Who would want this?
For genuine cross-terrain use -- on both paved and unpaved surfaces -- the bike's geometry is wrong and unnecessarily inefficient for road/gravel/dirt road riding. Too heavily biased toward current hardtail trail bike geometry. Giant's Toughroad platform is significantly superior for that application in all respects, and much, much less expensive -- and much lighter.
Mainly road touring? Above x2.
Will be interesting to see how this one goes.
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Agree; that, and off-road bike packing, is certainly the target application/image/demographic. But ...
$3339.99 Cdn for an aluminum-framed, carbon-forked rigid 29er+ with dropper post, SLX drivetrain, a couple of racks, and nothing-special wheels? 31 lbs?
Trek will no doubt be hoping that the image the bike portrays will elicit further sales, but I think that won't necessarily work. Who would want this?
For genuine cross-terrain use -- on both paved and unpaved surfaces -- the bike's geometry is wrong and unnecessarily inefficient for road/gravel/dirt road riding. Too heavily biased toward current hardtail trail bike geometry. Giant's Toughroad platform is significantly superior for that application in all respects, and much, much less expensive -- and much lighter.
Mainly road touring? Above x2.
Will be interesting to see how this one goes.
$3339.99 Cdn for an aluminum-framed, carbon-forked rigid 29er+ with dropper post, SLX drivetrain, a couple of racks, and nothing-special wheels? 31 lbs?
Trek will no doubt be hoping that the image the bike portrays will elicit further sales, but I think that won't necessarily work. Who would want this?
For genuine cross-terrain use -- on both paved and unpaved surfaces -- the bike's geometry is wrong and unnecessarily inefficient for road/gravel/dirt road riding. Too heavily biased toward current hardtail trail bike geometry. Giant's Toughroad platform is significantly superior for that application in all respects, and much, much less expensive -- and much lighter.
Mainly road touring? Above x2.
Will be interesting to see how this one goes.
08-12-17, 12:04 PM
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Agree; that, and off-road bike packing, is certainly the target application/image/demographic. But ...
$3339.99 Cdn for an aluminum-framed, carbon-forked rigid 29er+ with dropper post, SLX drivetrain, a couple of racks, and nothing-special wheels? 31 lbs?
Trek will no doubt be hoping that the image the bike portrays will elicit further sales, but I think that won't necessarily work. Who would want this?
For genuine cross-terrain use -- on both paved and unpaved surfaces -- the bike's geometry is wrong and unnecessarily inefficient for road/gravel/dirt road riding. Too heavily biased toward current hardtail trail bike geometry. Giant's Toughroad platform is significantly superior for that application in all respects, and much, much less expensive -- and much lighter.
Mainly road touring? Above x2.
Will be interesting to see how this one goes.
$3339.99 Cdn for an aluminum-framed, carbon-forked rigid 29er+ with dropper post, SLX drivetrain, a couple of racks, and nothing-special wheels? 31 lbs?
Trek will no doubt be hoping that the image the bike portrays will elicit further sales, but I think that won't necessarily work. Who would want this?
For genuine cross-terrain use -- on both paved and unpaved surfaces -- the bike's geometry is wrong and unnecessarily inefficient for road/gravel/dirt road riding. Too heavily biased toward current hardtail trail bike geometry. Giant's Toughroad platform is significantly superior for that application in all respects, and much, much less expensive -- and much lighter.
Mainly road touring? Above x2.
Will be interesting to see how this one goes.
What exactly are you looking for in cross terrain specific geometry? And what exactly is wrong with this one?
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31lbs for that kind of money? No thanks. I haven't really looked into the specs. I guess it's overbuilt for the rough terrain and load it's supposed to handle. But yeah, the Toughroad looks like a much better option.
What exactly are you looking for in cross terrain specific geometry? And what exactly is wrong with this one?
What exactly are you looking for in cross terrain specific geometry? And what exactly is wrong with this one?
Just my preference: the frame is fully suspension-corrected, probably for a typical 100mm travel 29er fork, and consequently has a very high stack height: 634mm for a 17.5/M and a slackish head angle of 70.5, whereas something like the Toughroad has a stack of 602 and h/a of 71.5 for the equivalent size.
My guess (only a guess) would be that overall the 1120 would prove a little unnecessarily sluggish-handling/upright on the road relatively speaking. Doesn't matter that much given what appears to be the 1120's intended application -- my reservation is really about its appeal for that application. The market will decide!
08-12-17, 03:41 PM
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Still like the looks of the Trek though... those orange racks will keep me awake tonight 😍😍