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    Quote Originally Posted by Doohickie View Post
    It's been a while since I posted pics of my commuter hybrid, a 1994 Nishiki Sport XRS. Because I use it for commuting I put the majority of my cycling miles on this bike. This past week I added dynamo lighting...
    Smart-looking build and great photos! Nice DIY bracketry as well.
    Gettin' my Fred on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irclean View Post
    Smart-looking build and great photos! Nice DIY bracketry as well.
    I discovered a while ago that table saws and chop saws are pretty effective on aluminum. I'm sure it's wearing the blade, but I only make a small handful of cuts here and there.
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    Cheap number but works just fine!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver View Post
    This is a very nice mtb tyre for pavement as it has very low rolling resistance despite it's width and less aggressive tread...
    I agree with the comments about the Kendas. I have some on my mountain bike and they do roll very well on pavement. But nowhere near as good as a dedicated road tire and not at all suited I would think for what you are describing here.



    Quote Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver View Post
    [IMG]Anyways... I tend to ride at a higher cadence than many folks (90 - 95 rpm) and gear my bikes so that cadence equals 30 kmh, lets me sustain 100 rpm for several hours, and lets me push things up to 120 + rpm for sprints.
    So you are doing around 39 kph for several hours on end with the bike pictured above and running 2 inch knobbies ... with an occasional sprint to 46 kph thrown in ? Short of those with the serious lycra fetish riding the high $$ racers and dosing you with kryptonite, can anyone anywhere not named Lance keep up with you ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talldog View Post
    I agree with the comments about the Kendas. I have some on my mountain bike and they do roll very well on pavement. But nowhere near as good as a dedicated road tire and not at all suited I would think for what you are describing here.
    There are a lot of misconceptions about tyre width and speed and think that a bigger rider would not find these tyres to be as fast... I am only a buck forty and these tyres feel pretty stiff at 65 psi which is due in part to the frame and fork which is an XC racing bike and could rally feel a difference when I loaded up the panniers with groceries the other night as then they started humming pretty loudly.

    I haven't taken the Moulden on on any multi hour rides but figure I could tick along pretty happily in mid to higher 30's for a few hours over the rolling terrain we have here as I can manage that on my touring bike when I take my 50 km commute which takes me 2 hours with quick snack / coffee stop in the middle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver View Post
    There are a lot of misconceptions about tyre width and speed and think that a bigger rider would not find these tyres to be as fast... I am only a buck forty and these tyres feel pretty stiff at 65 psi which is due in part to the frame and fork which is an XC racing bike and could rally feel a difference when I loaded up the panniers with groceries the other night as then they started humming pretty loudly.

    I haven't taken the Moulden on on any multi hour rides but figure I could tick along pretty happily in mid to higher 30's for a few hours over the rolling terrain we have here as I can manage that on my touring bike when I take my 50 km commute which takes me 2 hours with quick snack / coffee stop in the middle.
    On your setup that's around a 400 watt sustained output for two hours (assuming zero headwind and dead flat terrain). That is elite athlete territory, more I believe than quite a few of the TDF riders put out in the TT's. You on EPO ?
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    Hi!!! New to the forums and here's my "hybrid"

    actually i hate that label, sounds so wimpy...like a Prius... but whatever. Heres my almost daily ride... 489 miles in Oct.

    I modified the stock bike with adjustable stem, old mountain bike handlebar (freebie), bar ends, clip in pedals, rack and foam grip set off ebay (with extra added padding)...10 bucks and super comfy, even though they look dorky i suppose... Helps with my carpal tunnel.

    The bike itself is a scratch n dent off ebay (had a few chips)... but otherwise new.

    I try to ride 15 to 25 miles most days of the week and longer rides on the weekend when possible, I've been "hardcore" about my biking for about 4 months and love to ride... lost 20 lbs so far too =)

    Anyway, glad to find this forum and hope to spend alot of time here and learn much!!

    Andy C.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Talldog View Post
    On your setup that's around a 400 watt sustained output for two hours (assuming zero headwind and dead flat terrain). That is elite athlete territory, more I believe than quite a few of the TDF riders put out in the TT's. You on EPO ?
    Your calculations do not make sense to me.
    50 km over 2 hours would equal 25 km/h average.
    Counting in the "quick stop" he mentioned ... let's asume he averages 27-30 km/h.
    I averaged 28 on a 40 km run and then I wasn't even going full power because I was riding to my aunt's barbecue in hot weather and wanted to arrive there without sweating too much or being too exhausted.
    I definately do not have a 400 watts aerobic power output.
    In fact, to keep a speed of about 30 km/h, one needs only about 200 to 250 watts of aerobic power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikenut1967 View Post
    actually i hate that label, sounds so wimpy...like a Prius... but whatever. Heres my almost daily ride... 489 miles in Oct.

    I modified the stock bike with adjustable stem, old mountain bike handlebar (freebie), bar ends, clip in pedals, rack and foam grip set off ebay (with extra added padding)...10 bucks and super comfy, even though they look dorky i suppose... Helps with my carpal tunnel.

    The bike itself is a scratch n dent off ebay (had a few chips)... but otherwise new.

    I try to ride 15 to 25 miles most days of the week and longer rides on the weekend when possible, I've been "hardcore" about my biking for about 4 months and love to ride... lost 20 lbs so far too =)

    Anyway, glad to find this forum and hope to spend alot of time here and learn much!!

    Andy C.





    Nice bike, but you've mounted the rack backwards and the zip tied foam has got to go!

    Yes hybrids are wimpy, but we have standards!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdelaaR View Post
    Your calculations do not make sense to me.
    50 km over 2 hours would equal 25 km/h average.
    Counting in the "quick stop" he mentioned ... let's asume he averages 27-30 km/h.
    I averaged 28 on a 40 km run and then I wasn't even going full power because I was riding to my aunt's barbecue in hot weather and wanted to arrive there without sweating too much or being too exhausted.
    I definately do not have a 400 watts aerobic power output.
    In fact, to keep a speed of about 30 km/h, one needs only about 200 to 250 watts of aerobic power.
    I didn't go back to the original post but if I remember correctly he said he was doing several hours continuous on a mountain bike frame with two inch knobbies, panniers and a total weight probably approaching 33 pounds (weight doesn't matter though, right). And bad aerodynamics despite using drops. All this in the upper 30's (kph) the whole way. When you do the math this would require much more than 200 to 250 watts. But if 65er actually does all the miles he claims then I think he is at a very fit level and I a believe it is possible.

    Your 30 kph average is mere child's play in comparison .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talldog View Post
    I didn't go back to the original post but if I remember correctly he said he was doing several hours continuous on a mountain bike frame with two inch knobbies, panniers and a total weight probably approaching 33 pounds (weight doesn't matter though, right). And bad aerodynamics despite using drops. All this in the upper 30's (kph) the whole way. When you do the math this would require much more than 200 to 250 watts. But if 65er actually does all the miles he claims then I think he is at a very fit level and I a believe it is possible.

    Your 30 kph average is mere child's play in comparison .
    Reading it again he did indeed say "mid to higher 30's for a few hours" and that does indeed sound incredible ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by qmsdc15 View Post
    Nice bike, but you've mounted the rack backwards and the zip tied foam has got to go!

    Yes hybrids are wimpy, but we have standards!

    Haha!! You got me on the rack thing!! Good eye!~! as for the zip tied foam... I will have to call function over form on that one... I have a lot of trouble with numbness and pain in my right hand especially. Been diagnosed with carpal tunnel syndrome, and it ain't no fun, the added foam really helps on the long rides.

    See, i learned something here already, how NOT to mount a rack!! =)

    Andy C.

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    I'll give you a pass on the foam since you brought a note from your doctor. I'm having a little wrist problem myself. Hope we both get better soon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdelaaR View Post
    Your calculations do not make sense to me.
    50 km over 2 hours would equal 25 km/h average.
    Counting in the "quick stop" he mentioned ... let's asume he averages 27-30 km/h.
    I averaged 28 on a 40 km run and then I wasn't even going full power because I was riding to my aunt's barbecue in hot weather and wanted to arrive there without sweating too much or being too exhausted.
    I definately do not have a 400 watts aerobic power output.
    In fact, to keep a speed of about 30 km/h, one needs only about 200 to 250 watts of aerobic power.
    I don't even need to crank out that much power...

    I average a little over 30kmh on my touring bike on the long commute and once calculated that I needed to sustain a 300 watt output to complete a sub hour 40 on my road bike although I have done this on my vintage fixed gear as well... it is pretty slick and very fast and in race shape I am a buck forty soaking wet.

    Once upon a time I would have put myself in the elite category but now I am just a little faster than your average Fred, probably ride more than most, and have been working exceptionally hard to get faster and stronger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver View Post
    I don't even need to crank out that much power...

    I average a little over 30kmh on my touring bike on the long commute and once calculated that I needed to sustain a 300 watt output to complete a sub hour 40 on my road bike although I have done this on my vintage fixed gear as well... it is pretty slick and very fast and in race shape I am a buck forty soaking wet.

    Once upon a time I would have put myself in the elite category but now I am just a little faster than your average Fred, probably ride more than most, and have been working exceptionally hard to get faster and stronger.
    Excuse Me ! Faster Yes...( More ) ? I would rethink that statement...LOL Richard ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by xoxoxoxoLive View Post
    Excuse Me ! Faster Yes...( More ) ? I would rethink that statement...LOL Richard ..
    I did manage a sub hour 40 this year and was riding my touring bike with a moderate load... but I also had a stiff tailwind and was trying to out ride a thunderstorm.

    We did an 80 km ride last fall and with the tailwind we had it was no problem to maintain a speed of 40 kmh and even with a rest break we completed this is just over 2 hours... I hit 65 kmh in a sprint that day.

    These don't count.

    On our last TdP our return speed over 80 kmh was 33kmh in a driving rain storm but when you have a good group and can draft this is pretty easy to do... there were a few breaks where I dialled up my bike to 45kmh to chase people down or have some fun.

    Ride in a paceline and maintaining speeds in the low 40's is not that hard if you have a strong group.

    Going out and riding 40km in an hour SOLO... that is friggin' hard.

    I need to ride more.


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    Thats Fast !

    Quote Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver View Post
    I did manage a sub hour 40 this year and was riding my touring bike with a moderate load... but I also had a stiff tailwind and was trying to out ride a thunderstorm.

    We did an 80 km ride last fall and with the tailwind we had it was no problem to maintain a speed of 40 kmh and even with a rest break we completed this is just over 2 hours... I hit 65 kmh in a sprint that day.

    These don't count.

    On our last TdP our return speed over 80 kmh was 33kmh in a driving rain storm but when you have a good group and can draft this is pretty easy to do... there were a few breaks where I dialled up my bike to 45kmh to chase people down or have some fun.

    Ride in a paceline and maintaining speeds in the low 40's is not that hard if you have a strong group.

    Going out and riding 40km in an hour SOLO... that is friggin' hard.

    I need to ride more.

    I tried to order the tires you recommended, but the local LBS's could not get them. I could
    order online, but ended up with Kendra Kwick's...Lets just see how long they last. and
    Thanks, Richard

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver View Post
    Ride in a paceline and maintaining speeds in the low 40's is not that hard if you have a strong group.

    Going out and riding 40km in an hour SOLO... that is friggin' hard.
    Yes, "hard" is a relative term, especially when you can output 300+ watts on a sustained basis, LOL. People should realize that 300+ watts of sustained output is in (a young) Lance Armstrong/Alberto Contador territory. What you do is not hard for me, or for most people ... it is utterly impossible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikenut1967 View Post
    as for the zip tied foam... I will have to call function over form on that one... I have a lot of trouble with numbness and pain in my right hand especially.

    Andy C.
    Have you tried IronMan cyclig gloves? They can do wonders. You may also look into alternate handlebar designs, especially the kind that provide many different hand positions. A trekking bar looks nerdy cool; zip-tied foam looks nerdy goofy.

    I won't draw further attention to the rack....
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    Originally Posted by bragi "However, it's never a good idea to overgeneralize."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doohickie View Post
    Have you tried IronMan cyclig gloves? They can do wonders. You may also look into alternate handlebar designs, especially the kind that provide many different hand positions. A trekking bar looks nerdy cool; zip-tied foam looks nerdy goofy.

    I won't draw further attention to the rack....
    will definitely look in to those gloves you mentioned!! Thanks for the tip!! ... fixed the rack about 20 minutes ago... =) was even able to mount my light instead of hanging it off my tool bag... all is well now =)

    Andy C.

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    Many, but not all, bike shops carry the IronMan gloves. They have a split pad across the heel of the glove which avoids putting pressure on the nerve that runs up through there and reduces tingly numbness.
    I stop for people / whose right of way I honor / but not for no one.



    Originally Posted by bragi "However, it's never a good idea to overgeneralize."

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    BadBoyDrops 001..jpgBadBoyDrops 004..jpg Here is my Cannondale Bad Boy just 24hrs after drop bars,Sora Shifters, and Shimano LX rear der. were installed. This may just be my personal all time fave bike. Gus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doohickie View Post
    ...A trekking bar looks nerdy cool; zip-tied foam looks nerdy goofy.

    I love my trekking bars:

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    Quote Originally Posted by gusjrt View Post
    Here is my Cannondale Bad Boy just 24hrs after drop bars,Sora Shifters, and Shimano LX rear der. were installed. This may just be my personal all time fave bike. Gus
    Nice build!
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    Here is a pict of my wifes giant sedona bike and my daughters gary fisher in the background..


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    Quote Originally Posted by big_al View Post
    Here is a pict of my wifes giant sedona bike and my daughters gary fisher in the background..


    Nice ! Giants are great bikes. Are those upgraded forks on the Sedona ? Maybe it is just the angle, etc. but they look pretty substantial to be stock on a comfort bike.
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