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Old 09-24-09, 02:32 PM   #1
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Cannondale Bad Boy Disc or Trek 7.5 fx

When I started looking for a new bike after not riding for most of the last decade (and the little riding I did before that was on a Trek full suspension Y-Glide mountain bike), steel is where I originally was heading. But after trying the Trek 7.5fx, Cannondale Bad Boy, Jamis Coda Elite, a couple of Gary Fishers, Trek 7.3FX, Cannondale Quick (I forget the level), Jamis Allegro, I am leaning towards either the Trek 7.5 or the Bad Boy Disc. Had also wanted to try the Felt Speed 30, Scott Sportster or Sub series, and Rocky Mountain RC 50, but no one seems to have any of these less popular bikes just hanging around for a customer to give a test ride.

Seems like a real chicken-and-egg thing these secondary (and I mean that in a marketing sense, not quality sense) brands have. People go into a shop, they know the names Trek and Cannondale, and lo and behold, there is a bike to try. If they want to compare to a Felt or Scott or whatever, if the shop allegedly carries the brand they carry the $300-400 line and don't have the pricier utes in stock, nor did they seem particularly thrilled about getting one on spec. So a customer can't try the bikes and goes to the default Trek or Cannondale, and the big get bigger.

Any thoughts, comments, or insights into these choices are appreciate. The price on the Trek would be $749, while the Bad Boy Disc would be about $100 higher.
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Old 09-24-09, 02:47 PM   #2
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Just personal conjecture with no real information here.

I haven't ridden either one, but if the decision were mine, I would get the Bad Boy Disc if I was likely to ride in the rain... Just for the better braking in the wet.

Otherwise, I think paying for discs for a bike to be ridden as a hybrid is not worth it. Discs just add cost and weight if you don't plan to ride in the rain.
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Old 09-24-09, 03:00 PM   #3
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That's a very good and logical point about riding in the rain. I hate to drive in the rain, let alone ride a bike in it. Thanks... and conjecture works just fine for me.
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I love my 7.5. I tried the Bad Boy but it didn't feel like it fit me as well. Since it sounds like you tried both, you should base your desision substantially on how they felt. But I would also second that if you don't need disc brakes, don't bother. I have disc brakes on my commuter (Trek Valencia) that gets ridden in all weather. I wouldn't ride my 7.5 in the rain since I use it for fun and fitness, and won't bother if it is raining. I keep my 7.5 nice and light since I view it as my "sport" bike.

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Well, I went with neither. Ordered a Felt Speed 30 from my lbs. Should be in next Thursday or so. Will post pix.

Thanks for your input on this and my other thread. this is a great forum.
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Congrats. Really nice flat-bar road bike.

If you are able to weigh it and could post the weight that'd be apprecated, I'm curious...
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I'll give it a shot. Supposed to get it by end of next week. I'll just get on the scale with and without the bike. It won't be exact, but it will be close.

Please note that on this webpage ---> 2009 Felt Speed 30 it claims the weight is 20.72 pounds.
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Oh, cool, close enough. That's without pedals it looks like.
Congrats again, you'll have to give us a ride report.
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Beautiful bike, congrats.
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Nice bike!!! I like that 50 tooth big ring!
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That's a very good and logical point about riding in the rain. I hate to drive in the rain, let alone ride a bike in it. Thanks... and conjecture works just fine for me.
Disks do brake better in the wet. But not THAT much better than rim brakes with proper rain pads like Koolstop Salmons. Discs are a nice upgrade if they're good ones, but probably shouldn't be decisive. (Regrettably most LBS are too lazy and stupid to explain stuff like this to customers.)
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Well, I went with neither. Ordered a Felt Speed 30 from my lbs. Should be in next Thursday or so. Will post pix.

Thanks for your input on this and my other thread. this is a great forum.
Felt have a good rep for their racing bikes.
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Disks do brake better in the wet. But not THAT much better than rim brakes with proper rain pads like Koolstop Salmons. Discs are a nice upgrade if they're good ones, but probably shouldn't be decisive. (Regrettably most LBS are too lazy and stupid to explain stuff like this to customers.)
This kind of statement from you is getting really long in the tooth. In my area, LBS's are quite helpful and go out of their way to explain things to their customers. Knock it off with this insulting rhetoric. It's annoying and untrue. Please take your anger and insulting mannerism elsewhere.
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