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Old 02-17-10, 12:30 PM   #1
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Trek Navigator or Giant Cypress

I'm trying to get my brothers & sisters to ride more with me. I bought my sister a Trek Navigator off craigslist last year. She likes it, but I notice that when we go as a group, she's much slower than my brothers & sister-in-laws who all have a Giant Cypress. They are all at about the same level when it comes to experience and fitness level. The Navigator is slightly heavier than the the Cypress and the tire sizing is different.

Is there a big difference or does she just need to pick it up?

Any help is greatly appreciated!
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Old 02-17-10, 01:48 PM   #2
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Good question - and a tough one to answer.

First off, it's all about the motor, the rider - but that's not all!

The Navigator is a 26" wide tired bike, and definitely the more comfort oriented of the two, even though they are both considered comfort bikes.

The Cypress, with 700C wheels, (larger diameter)and slightly narrower tires, leans slightly more toward a performance Hybrid, than a comfort bike.

So, given same levels of fitness, it would be considerably easier to go faster on the Cypress.

A true performance oriented Hybrid, would put them both to shame.
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Old 02-17-10, 02:24 PM   #3
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I'm trying to get my brothers & sisters to ride more with me. I bought my sister a Trek Navigator off craigslist last year. She likes it, but I notice that when we go as a group, she's much slower than my brothers & sister-in-laws who all have a Giant Cypress. They are all at about the same level when it comes to experience and fitness level. The Navigator is slightly heavier than the the Cypress and the tire sizing is different.

Is there a big difference or does she just need to pick it up?

Any help is greatly appreciated!
The difference in tire sizes and weights between the two bicycles is not a big issue. It is how much effort a person is willing to put into the pedaling.

My wife and I have been riding together now for 5 years. Averaging between 1500 and 2000 miles per year. A short ride is 30 to 35 miles while a good ride is 55 to 60 miles. We are both now 68 years old.

We each have a Trek Navigator comfort bike. She also rides a Raleigh Detour 3.0 hybrid while I also ride a Trek Multitrack hybrid.

I follow my wife, letting her set the pace for the day. She has good days and bad days. It all depends on how much housework she did the day before and what sort of housework it was.

All of our experience suggests that the bike plays something of a minor role in how well our rides go. Energy levels, weather, mood, etc., play a greater role. Some days you just fell like hammering the pedals and other days you feel more like taking it easy.

How comfortable one is on a bike comes into play here. We found that little changes in seat height, angle and position in the mounting rails can make or break a ride in how much energy you can put into a ride. Tire pressures play a part.

Wind, force and direction can play a major role in how well a ride goes. We normally ride the Schuylkill River Trail out of Oaks down into Philly. Prevailing wind hits us in the face on the return leg of the ride. Long sections of the trail out in the open with strong gusty winds can kill your energy levels. While my wife has good endurance in her legs they are not as strong as my legs. So the wind will take a good bit out of her compared to the effect on me.

We have found that in order to improve our legs we must push them a little bit. On each ride you must push yourself a little harder than on the previous ride. During the short days of winter we will do 30 to 35 miles a day. As the days warm and lengthen we find that we must work our way back up to the 50 to 55 mile ride endurance. And if we are off the bikes for more than a week it is like starting over when we get back on them.
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Old 02-20-10, 07:47 PM   #4
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I have a Trek 7100 and Navigator 2.0 and love them both. I had the LBS install GEAX Street Runner 1.6 tires on the Navigator when I picked it up and it seams smoother and surer footed in the corners than the 7100. I only ride about 12 miles on city streets at a time and my average speed is less than one mph slower on the Navigator than on the 7100.

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Old 03-19-10, 07:04 PM   #5
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Thank you all for the great advice!! After making minor adjustments, saddle height, adjusting the handlebars.........she is kicking butt. I have to say, I got myself a Trek 7100 and love it.

Ride On!!!
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