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Old 06-11-10, 06:57 PM   #1
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What went wrong ?

My daughter and I decided to go check the mail at the post office box, 3 mile easy round
trip. Then being bored thought we would ride into town and eat a burger at McDonald's, 10
more miles round trip, after getting to town and feeling great, she wants Burger King, LOL,
another 5 mile round trip, after eating a very light meal, we went to some friends house,
another 3 miles round trip. we keep getting further from home. On the way back, with about
6 miles left to the house, I started to get a headache, then stopping at the last store before
the last 6 miles, felt like I was going to pass out, dizzy, shaky, almost confused feeling. the
temperature was 90 degrees, and I was riding in jeans with a black heavy shirt, she
was riding shorts, light colored t-shirt. Remember this started out as a quick trip to the post
office, nothing more. Well I new I could not make those last 6 miles, we live in a very hilly area,
actually I could barely stand or think. We ended up just locking the bikes up at the store,
caught a ride back to the house, and after about 1 hour of AC and cold shower returned for
the bikes with the truck, this is not a long ride for me, especially with all the stops, and I do ride in the heat all the time, daughter was fine, just leg tired, is this what you guys refer to as a bonk ? or heat exhaustion. Confused, Richard
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Sounds like symptoms of heat stroke/ extreme dehydration. Go see your doctor.
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Sounds like heat exhaustion/heat stroke and dehydration. It sounds like you didn't have any water with you?
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Stop eating McDonalds and Burger King.
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Jumped back on the horse...

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Sounds like symptoms of heat stroke/ extreme dehydration. Go see your doctor.
Not to try and sound tough, but after the post, went on a (COOL) night ride, only 3 miles in 20
minutes, I feel fine now, and the lady that gave us a ride home said I was showing signs of
heat stroke. She claimed that she had been through EMT training...Heat was what I was thinking to, going to the doctor on Monday for blood work anyway. Thanks, Richard
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Know we did not take any water, only going to the post office, but first store we loaded up on Gatorade..This
was a really scary event for me. Never felt like that before...feel fine now, and just did a little jump back on
the horse ride at night, very slow and cool...felt great to...Just kinda freaky, Thanks for your reply, Richard
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Exhaustion, dehydration and garbage you ate.

I got a bit of a heat stroke while riding few years ago, and it wasn't fun. We were far from home, couldn't find any proper food. Some people generously gave us a ride part way, and I ended up laying on the grass by a gas station eating 4 bananas and drinking 1.5 litre bottle of water. After about an hour I was ready to ride home. Slowly. Still, it was kind of scary and I won't let it happen again. I always have plenty of water, gatorade and some food with me. I don't eat fast food, so always make sure to have to have something in case I can't find any proper food. And I know now that I can't take too much heat so try to avoid riding when it's very hot.

Glad you feel fine now, you may want to pop over to the doctor just to make sure there's nothing else going on. Better safe than sorry.
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Exhaustion, dehydration and garbage you ate.

I got a bit of a heat stroke while riding few years ago, and it wasn't fun. We were far from home, couldn't find any proper food. Some people generously gave us a ride part way, and I ended up laying on the grass by a gas station eating 4 bananas and drinking 1.5 litre bottle of water. After about an hour I was ready to ride home. Slowly. Still, it was kind of scary and I won't let it happen again. I always have plenty of water, gatorade and some food with me. I don't eat fast food, so always make sure to have to have something in case I can't find any proper food. And I know now that I can't take too much heat so try to avoid riding when it's very hot.

Glad you feel fine now, you may want to pop over to the doctor just to make sure there's nothing else going on. Better safe than sorry.
I think your right, going to the
doctor, and it was freaky, and my daughter felt great ! God I must be getting old..LOL.. Richard
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Could have been Le Bonque and heat fatique, low/high blood sugar, take your pick. It's been very hot in my locale last week, 35C - cycling 20 miles in it was ok, but I was drinking a litre of water mixed 60% 40% with fruit juice with half a teaspoon of salt every hour. Much later, working moving bricks in the hot sunny yard I was hit with a headache and the shakes, sprayed myself, fully clothed, with cold water from the hose, got out of the sun and drank more fruit juice and water. OK after about 15 minutes.

I won't go anywhere on the bike without at least one bottle of fluid on it. Keep a couple of snack bars on the bike too. Scary if it happens away from the house.

Wear a hat.
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90 degree is not hot enough to cause a heat stroke,as the above saying,low blood sugar is more likely the cause, i have low blood sugar attacks from time to time, it showed the exact symtoms as the OP discribed.
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Jeans and a black heavy shirt in 90 degree heat? I'm not surprised you had touches of heatstroke.
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Could have been a little of all that combined, and I mentioned I was already going to the doctor on Monday
for blood work. That was to do a retest, because had some blood work done a couple weeks ago, and my
sodium level came back at ( I think they said 139 ) what ever it was, she's worried it's a little low. She
told me to keep riding my bike, and cut back on my fluids and my level should come back up..( HUM ) ....
I think we need to have serious talk. ( Laugh )..... Richard, and yes it much more scary away from home, and
with your wife out of town and your child with you...
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90 degree is not hot enough to cause a heat stroke...
Not sure I'd agree with that. There are several factors that have to be considered together - temperature, clothing, level of hydration, humidity, work load and, maybe most important, individual variability and overall physical condition.

Since we don't have much of that information, it's hard to say what temperature could result in the effects the OP experienced.
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Could have been a little of all that combined, and I mentioned I was already going to the doctor on Monday
for blood work. That was to do a retest, because had some blood work done a couple weeks ago, and my
sodium level came back at ( I think they said 139 ) what ever it was, she's worried it's a little low. She
told me to keep riding my bike, and cut back on my fluids and my level should come back up..( HUM ) ....
I think we need to have serious talk. ( Laugh )..... Richard, and yes it much more scary away from home, and
with your wife out of town and your child with you...
checked my level was ( 131 ) normal 136 to 145
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Wish you well and keep enjoying the ride.
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Wish you well and keep enjoying the ride.
Amen. Coincidentally, last night I was reading in a roadie mag of the symptons of low sodium levels, they were exactly as the stricken OP described; sudden headache, confusion etc.

However, I am not a (medical) doctor. Google low sodium levels.

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You speak of "a light meal" at burger king.
What is your definition of "a light meal"?
Eating fat & greasy stuff and then going biking in hot weather doesn't sound like a good idea to me.
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Eating fat & greasy stuff and then going biking in hot weather doesn't sound like a good idea to me.
Without knowing about his diet history, we can't make any presumption for now, he might eat this " light meal " like once a week,which is still ok, we will see after his doctor's appointment on Monday.
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My comment wasn't directed at his "diet history" but was simply trying to point out that going biking in hot weather after eating greasy can be hard on people.
When your body is trying to digest meat and grease, this will temporarily weaken you and heat you up ... add to this the exhausting pedaling and the hot weather and the plot thickens
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Diet and sodium level

I rarely eat out, we only had 4 very small chicken nuggets each, and split a small fry. I goggled
that on the sodium level, almost exact symptoms. Blood work probably will not be back till around Wednesday or Thursday. The heat has never really been a big factor for me, grew up
in FL, cut my grass on 100 degree days with push mower, go biking, hiking, just always drink plenty of fluids, and if I feel to hot. just soak my head and neck down with some water and rest a little...My daughter was not feeling any heat symptoms, and never had biked that far before,
but does run track at school. Her rear end was sore though..LOL..at least that part on me felt
fine..but I do normally dress correctly for the heat as she was, not a black heavy shirt and blue jeans..Thanks, for all the ideas. The strangest thing I have every seen happened last night around 9:30, my son and I was going on a night time rural road ride and there was a deer
standing on the side of the road, we stopped with in 10 feet of him, little buck with 4" felt horns. My son said you think I can touch him, deer was just eating grass on the side off the road, I said no way, well he gets off his bike, he has a headlamp on his helmet starts walking up to the deer real slowly with his hand out, you can tell the deer is a little nervous, so is my son, he just stops with his hand out, finally deer starts walking up to him, starts to lick his fingers, my son starts to rub his head. After a couple minutes of this, I said let me get the video camera, we were 1 mile from the house. I rode like wind, and just as I was almost there I seen him coming down the road. He said I just mist it by like one minute, about 3 cars had stopped and was talking to my son, he told them I had gone after the camera. He said the people were AMAZED ! We had even talked before the ride about bringing it but thought it would be to dark, but with both bike lights, and helmet lamps and as close as we were, we mist a shot of a life time, but made a memory for ever..... Richard
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I should have changed the Title of the post..and included the Deer...
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Forgot Respond after doctors visit.

Turns out I was suffering from low sodium, level was 131, normal is between 136 and 145.
remembered today after follow up visit about the post. My level was 136 after changing my
diet, adding more salt...Who would have thought. My symptoms that day matched perfect
to the signs of low sodium to... Richard

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Four Chicken McNuggets and low sodium!? McDonalds claims that each Chicken McNugget satisfies the daily sodium requirements of an average adult. Sue 'em!
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It would be Burger King..

The post is deceiving, sounds like we ate at both places, but when we got to McDonald's, she
decides she wants Burger King. On a serous note, it was probably do to all the sweating
from wearing the heavy clothing in hot weather, and years of a low sodium diet. I'm a
health nut when it comes to eating, no sweets, fried foods, low fat, but every once and
a while, when the moment is right. Like out riding with your daughter, ( and she loves junk food ), I will get something, but I new the grease and hot weather would not mix, thats why
the small amount of food. This was not a hard ride, we had lots of stops, just long and HOT.
And lots of sweating with the cloths I had on. Richard I know that sound contradicting
myself about the right moment thing, ( but that was where she wanted to eat ) father and daughter moment...
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Four Chicken McNuggets and low sodium!? McDonalds claims that each Chicken McNugget satisfies the daily sodium requirements of an average adult. Sue 'em!
Know a good lawyer, Maybe I would win ! Then buy an FX and have something to post about.. : ) Richard
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