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    This has probably been discussed ten thousand times before, but I have not found those discussions. Can someone please point me to a thread that defines a hybrid bike? Specifically, what is the distinction between a hybrid bike and a flat-bar road bike?


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    Basically a road bike with mtb handle bar and gearing. Each manufactory catagorized their Hybrids differently,they have sport Hibrids and comfort Hybrids and some in between.
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    Better to be ready to take the gloves off on this topic. I found out the hard way.....My version of a Hybrid.....
    Richard another angle Hope this helps, but very debatable.
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    Very debatable...

    Better to be ready to take the gloves off on this topic. I found out the hard way.....My version of a Hybrid.....
    Richard another angle Hope this helps, but very debatable.
    Richard

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    There is no real definition that is standardised by any organisation, so the subject is still up for debate.
    If we assume that "a hybrid bike" is any bike that has components from multiple bike categories, a "flat bar roadbike" is also a hybrid bike.

    Wikipedia has this to say about the subject: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_bicycle

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    Any bike that isn't a pure road bike or pure mountain bike. They can be anywhere in between that spectrum, for example, you have comfort hybrids, fast hybrids, commuter-type bikes, the list goes on...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPMacG View Post
    This has probably been discussed ten thousand times before, but I have not found those discussions. Can someone please point me to a thread that defines a hybrid bike? Specifically, what is the distinction between a hybrid bike and a flat-bar road bike?


    Thanks.

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    What confuses me more is for example, the bike in the video by XOXOetc, looks like a mtb to me with smooth-er tires? So when does a hybrid become a hardtail mtb? That bike looks like an older hard tail mtb. Is it when they (hybrids) have 26 inch wheels but then we have 29ers now?

    My neighbors have some sort of Trekie hybrids but theirs do not have a front suspension but one has a seat post that bounces up and down when she pedals that makes her rather larger rear jiggle alarmingly. His has no front suspension, 700c wheels, no up and down pogo stick seat post and a flat bar but he sits almost upright. I dunno. Whatever.
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    I Agree..

    Quote Originally Posted by Loose Chain View Post
    What confuses me more is for example, the bike in the video by XOXOetc, looks like a mtb to me with smooth-er tires? So when does a hybrid become a hardtail mtb? That bike looks like an older hard tail mtb. Is it when they (hybrids) have 26 inch wheels but then we have 29ers now?

    My neighbors have some sort of Trekie hybrids but theirs do not have a front suspension but one has a seat post that bounces up and down when she pedals that makes her rather larger rear jiggle alarmingly. His has no front suspension, 700c wheels, no up and down pogo stick seat post and a flat bar but he sits almost upright. I dunno. Whatever.
    I think at one time it would have been a Hardtail Mountain bike, but due to the technology
    advancements we have had in Road Bikes and Mountain Bikes, it has left the open hole
    for the Hybrid classification. I would not agree that anything not meant just for the Road
    Racer, or Hard core Mountain Biker, be classified a Hybrid. A Beach Cruiser for example, would be what it says, a Beach Cruiser, after that comes the real gray area, comfort, commuter, flat bar Road Bike, Touring Bike, it could boil down to there are 4 or 5 kinds
    of Hybrids, due to how you ride, and set up your bike. You could take one good frame, and depending on the components put on it, you will end up with some form of Hybrid. To me a
    Hybrid needs be able to handle light to medium off road trails, and still ride on the road pretty well. So that would probably include most commuters( unless tires to narrow ), Touring Bikes, (which I think needs a class of there own ), and comfort bike, as long as theres
    plenty of gearing, not your comfort Beach type cruiser)..So Basically, if it can Handle some off roding pretty well, and still get you down the road better than a Mountain Bike, (You more than likely have a Hybrid), I think that would be the definition of a Hybrid................

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    Quote Originally Posted by badger1 View Post
    I think it would come down to tire size, if there to narrow to safely handle some off roding, I would not call it a Hybrid !
    If there to big, I would call it a comfort cruiser, I Think they are supposed to be a cross between a Mountain Bike and
    a Road Bike, so they need to be able to both, just will not be the best at either but are great for people like me that,
    might go for a 10 mile road ride, then 5 miles down a gravel road. (AND YES) a beach cruiser could do that, but not
    like something with 21 or more gears, smaller tires, and possibly suspension, Hybrids should preferably have the lock out type
    for when they are own the road......Richard

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPMacG View Post
    This has probably been discussed ten thousand times before, but I have not found those discussions. Can someone please point me to a thread that defines a hybrid bike? Specifically, what is the distinction between a hybrid bike and a flat-bar road bike?


    Thanks.


    Tire size....If it can not do something like in the video ( Down Hill Gravel Road ) it would be a Road bike to me...Richard

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    I Agree with your link 100 percent...Richard

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    I do not agree with that definition at all.
    It says that a hybrid bike mostly has gearing of a roadbike, although most hybrids have a 28-38-48 or similar crank, which is not found on any roadbike.
    Furthermore it claims that a hybrid is made for the city ... I don't see any reason why this should be true and I haven't driven my hybrid through a city yet and hope I never will.

    To me, the definition of a "hybrid bike" is much more simple:
    "A hybrid bike is a bike that is versatile and up for anything ... it is not specialized for any activity but rather tries to find an equilibrium for being good enough at everything"

    Exactly which components make up a hybrid bike doesn't matter I think, as long as the aim is to be good at many things at the same time: roads, tracks, forests, mountains, cobblestones, mud, night, day, rain, ...

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    A hybrid, to me, is exemplified by my Sirrus: Road tires, roadish frame, mountain bike position and mountain bike gearing.

    basically anything that isnt a road bike or a mountain bike...though xc mountain bikes can become hybrids really easily
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    Quote Originally Posted by nymtber View Post
    A hybrid, to me, is exemplified by my Sirrus: Road tires, roadish frame, mountain bike position and mountain bike gearing.

    basically anything that isnt a road bike or a mountain bike...though xc mountain bikes can become hybrids really easily
    OK, this my 1996ish Specialized Stumpjumper M2:



    So, did putting fenders and smooth-er tires make it into a hybrid? No worries, it is back in mtb dress since I got my Surly CC.
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    The term is a load of marketing bologna.

    A hybrid is whatever the crap you want to call it.
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    I agree with what you are saying,

    Quote Originally Posted by AdelaaR View Post
    I do not agree with that definition at all.
    It says that a hybrid bike mostly has gearing of a roadbike, although most hybrids have a 28-38-48 or similar crank, which is not found on any roadbike.
    Furthermore it claims that a hybrid is made for the city ... I don't see any reason why this should be true and I haven't driven my hybrid through a city yet and hope I never will.

    To me, the definition of a "hybrid bike" is much more simple:
    "A hybrid bike is a bike that is versatile and up for anything ... it is not specialized for any activity but rather tries to find an equilibrium for being good enough at everything"

    Exactly which components make up a hybrid bike doesn't matter I think, as long as the aim is to be good at many things at the same time: roads, tracks, forests, mountains, cobblestones, mud, night, day, rain, ...
    Do it all bike....But I think you took the author a little out of context when he was talking
    about the gearing of a Road Bike, he was probably just referring to multiply selections, not
    specific sizes...... Richard

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loose Chain View Post
    OK, this my 1996ish Specialized Stumpjumper M2:



    So, did putting fenders and smooth-er tires make it into a hybrid? No worries, it is back in mtb dress since I got my Surly CC.
    Nice Looking Bike....Richard

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    Makes it a Hybrid to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loose Chain View Post
    OK, this my 1996ish Specialized Stumpjumper M2:



    So, did putting fenders and smooth-er tires make it into a hybrid? No worries, it is back in mtb dress since I got my Surly CC.
    Nice Looking Bike....Richard

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    What difference could it possibly make?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terrierman View Post
    What difference could it possibly make?
    None. It does nothing for anyone aside from those who like the the usual BF 'watering' contest among the usual water-makers.

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    Your comment..

    Quote Originally Posted by The Historian View Post
    None. It does nothing for anyone aside from those who like the the usual BF 'watering' contest among the usual water-makers.
    Your comment did nothing to help in the definition of a Hybrid, except throw out a
    useless insult at those of us that are debating an issue, (whose doing the watering).
    If you do not believe in Hybrids, why read this form, or bother posting insults on the board...not
    directed at the topic, but at the people......Richard

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    Quote Originally Posted by xoxoxoxolive View Post
    if you do not believe in hybrids....
    lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terrierman View Post
    What difference could it possibly make?
    Adding smaller tires for better road riding, fenders for committing, rack for carrying things, it did take away some of the Mountain Bikes
    off Road performance, but enhanced its street riding ability. To me, that represents the traits of a Hybrid...its not the best
    Road Bike, or the Most hard core Mountain Bike, but could do both well......Richard

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