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    Hey guys! Anyone own or test ride a Giant Rapid 1 bike or a Norco VFR 1?

    I'm looking at a fast road bike. It seems flat bar road bikes are less expensive than drop bar bikes. I'm 6'3" and weigh 185. Its not for commuting, its just to have fun and go fast. Have you guys tried the Giant Rapid 1??? Have you guys tried the Norco VFR 1? Can't decide between the 2 bikes. Thanks. Rich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rbloem View Post
    I'm looking at a fast road bike. It seems flat bar road bikes are less expensive than drop bar bikes. I'm 6'3" and weigh 185. Its not for commuting, its just to have fun and go fast. Have you guys tried the Giant Rapid 1??? Have you guys tried the Norco VFR 1? Can't decide between the 2 bikes. Thanks. Rich.
    Can't speak for the Norco but I have test ridden the Rapid. It is a very, very nice bike and would seem to fit the criteria you have established. I have a Giant FCR1 which the Rapid replaced and am very satisfied. Giant provides very good value and engineer excellent bikes. It is also one of the few hybrids that come standard with so-called compact road gearing. Very fast. It is very much what is referred to as a flat bar road bike as opposed to some other designs. But fit and feel play an important role in bike choice. Have you test rode both ?

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    I love my Norco! It's not a VFR, but the geometry is similar. Even though it's steel and IGH-equipped (and therefore heavier than the VFR) it feels like a speed demon compared to my other bikes. It seems effortless to get it up to speed and far easier to keep it there. Here's a nice write-up on the VFR 4: http://www.bicycletimesmag.com/node/80269
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talldog View Post
    Can't speak for the Norco but I have test ridden the Rapid. It is a very, very nice bike and would seem to fit the criteria you have established. I have a Giant FCR1 which the Rapid replaced and am very satisfied. Giant provides very good value and engineer excellent bikes. It is also one of the few hybrids that come standard with so-called compact road gearing. Very fast. It is very much what is referred to as a flat bar road bike as opposed to some other designs. But fit and feel play an important role in bike choice. Have you test rode both ?
    I test rode a Norco VFR 3. Nice. For the Giant Rapid 1, how are these specs? Is this the same specs as you Giant? Thanks. Rich

    frame ALUXX-Grade aluminum
    fork Advanced-Grade Composite, alloy OverDrive steerer
    handlebar Giant Connect, flat 31.8mm
    stem Giant Connect
    seatpost Giant Connect SL, composite, 30.9mm
    saddle Selle Royal Seta
    pedals Shimano M505 clipless
    shifter Shimano R440
    front derailleur Shimano R440
    rear derailleur Shimano 105
    brakes Shimano Dual Pivot, Long Reach
    brake levers Tektro RS388
    cassette Shimano HG50, 12-25T, 9SPD
    chain KMC HG73
    cranks Shimano Tiagra, compact 34/50T
    bb Shimano external
    rims Mavic CXP22, [F]:24H, [R]:28H
    hubs Formula alloy
    spokes Sapim Race, 14g
    tires Kenda Kriterium, 700x25c
    extras Alloy bar-ends

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    Quote Originally Posted by rbloem View Post
    I test rode a Norco VFR 3. Nice. For the Giant Rapid 1, how are these specs? Is this the same specs as you Giant? Thanks. Rich

    frame ALUXX-Grade aluminum
    fork Advanced-Grade Composite, alloy OverDrive steerer
    handlebar Giant Connect, flat 31.8mm
    stem Giant Connect
    seatpost Giant Connect SL, composite, 30.9mm
    saddle Selle Royal Seta
    pedals Shimano M505 clipless
    shifter Shimano R440
    front derailleur Shimano R440
    rear derailleur Shimano 105
    brakes Shimano Dual Pivot, Long Reach
    brake levers Tektro RS388
    cassette Shimano HG50, 12-25T, 9SPD
    chain KMC HG73
    cranks Shimano Tiagra, compact 34/50T
    bb Shimano external
    rims Mavic CXP22, [F]:24H, [R]:28H
    hubs Formula alloy
    spokes Sapim Race, 14g
    tires Kenda Kriterium, 700x25c
    extras Alloy bar-ends
    Similar, but there are some changes. The Rapid has gone back to road type brakes whereas the FCR used V-brakes. Some changes to the rear gear cluster, etc. The frame was redesigned for the Rapids and if anything appears a little more road oriented. The head tubes are slightly shorter as is the wheelbase I think. Best to check on that though. For comparison here are the component specs for the 2009 FCR1.

    SIZES XS,S,M,L,XL
    COLORS White/Black/Silver
    FRAME ALUXX-Grade Aluminum
    FORK Advanced-Grade Composite / Alloy Steer
    SHOCK N/A
    HANDLEBAR Alloy, flat, 25.4mm w/ bar ends
    STEM 3D Forged, 25.4mm, 17 deg
    SEATPOST Giant Composite, 27.2x370mm
    SADDLE Giant Unity Venture
    PEDALS Crank Brothers Smarty
    SHIFTERS Shimano R440, 9SPD
    FRONT DERAILLEUR Shimano R440
    REAR DERAILLEUR Shimano 105
    BRAKES Tektro alloy, direct-pull
    BRAKE LEVERS Tektro alloy, direct-pull
    CASSETTE SRAM PG-950, 11-28T, 9SPD
    CHAIN Shimano HG-73
    CRANKSET Shimano 4550, compact 34/50T
    BOTTOM BRACKET Shimano, external

    RIMS Mavic CXP22, F: 24H/ R: 28H
    HUBS Formula, alloy, sealed
    SPOKES 14G Sapim Race
    TIRES Kenda Kontender, 700x26C
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    I've test ridden both; as it happens, my choice came down to the Rapid 1 or the Sirrus Comp. I went with the latter simply because I found it very slightly more comfortable, and preferred the v-brakes to road calipers.
    In my view, both the bikes you mention are excellent -- but they are a little different. The Norcos are slightly more relaxed in their geometry, whereas the Giant Rapid series really is simply a Giant Defy (road bike) with the top tube slightly lengthened (for a given size) better to suit flat bars. Essentially the same frame/frame material. I prefer the Rapid (to the VFR), but that's just me. I also second Talldog's view: Giants are unbeatable re. value for money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rbloem View Post
    I'm looking at a fast road bike. It seems flat bar road bikes are less expensive than drop bar bikes. I'm 6'3" and weigh 185. Its not for commuting, its just to have fun and go fast. Have you guys tried the Giant Rapid 1??? Have you guys tried the Norco VFR 1? Can't decide between the 2 bikes. Thanks. Rich.
    Just bought the Rapid 1 .... Here it is. Believe me, I searched long and hard for the perfect bike. Nothing came close in this price range for quality components (Shimano crank, brakes, 105 RD), weight (20.1 lbs), and looks. Plus, take a good look at the frame. There are no stickers that you can feel on the frame. Its all clearcoated over for a smooth finish. Also, remember Giant make all their own stuff at their own factories. How many biclycle manufacterers can say that anymore today?

    Just waiting on the bottle cage, bottle, and seatbag......
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    I rode the offerings from Giant and Trex in the category but I ended up with a Bianchi Camaleonte. I rode the Giant and Bianchi back to back and the handling and ride qualities of the Bianchi were perfect for me. Prices on all three were the same. I hear that Giant makes most of the frames on the market anyway.

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    By the way, I'm 6' 2", and this bike fits me like a glove. Got the XL size, and so glad I did !!
    Also, really love the bar-ends. Allows me to alter my hand position quite nicely. Already have over 100 miles on the bike !! A GREAT PURCHASE !!

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    Hey guys. Its done. I ordered a 2010 Giant Rapid 1 today. Thanks for all the input and advice. Can't wait! Its getting shipped to my local bike shop this week!

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    The small, but very passionate & vocal Norco Lover's Group let out a collective wail of despair.

    BTW congrats on your new purchase!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rbloem View Post
    Hey guys. Its done. I ordered a 2010 Giant Rapid 1 today. Thanks for all the input and advice. Can't wait! Its getting shipped to my local bike shop this week!
    GREAT MOVE ! You'll LOVE it !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dbl E GT View Post
    GREAT MOVE ! You'll LOVE it !!
    Also, one more thing..... I had my LBS switch out the stock hand grips (uncomfortable) with Ergo grips .... what a difference that made.... very nice to grab onto and ergonomically correct !
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    Nice Bike!!!! Make sure you report back after some riding ---- really nicely equiped, and nice lookin!

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    What type of grips do you have? The kind that is skinny, than gets really wide or flared out for your palms?

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    I have a 2 year old Norco Mountaineer that I love. I still like Norco, big time. If the Norco was the same price that I got the Rapid for, well than who knows?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dbl E GT View Post
    Also, one more thing..... I had my LBS switch out the stock hand grips (uncomfortable) with Ergo grips .... what a difference that made.... very nice to grab onto and ergonomically correct !
    Just wondering. Does the Rapid 1 have carbon forks. Looking at the specs, it doesn't. Unless I read it wrong.
    Also how much does a Rapid 1 weigh anyways. Thanks.

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    The Giant Rapid 1 has a composite fork with an alloy steerer. I am assuming the composite material is carbon fiber.
    The Giant Rapid 1 weighs 20.12 lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rbloem View Post
    What type of grips do you have? The kind that is skinny, than gets really wide or flared out for your palms?
    Not sure the brand, but the kind that flare out for your palms, also kind of flatish. A great feel, plus the stock bar ends are a nice standard feature!) really help with hand fatigue that you'll get eventually on any bike. Make sure you adjust the bar ends, though. Mine had to be loosened, then pushed forward for true comfort.

    By the way, what price did you get it for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dbl E GT View Post
    Not sure the brand, but the kind that flare out for your palms, also kind of flatish. A great feel, plus the stock bar ends are a nice standard feature!) really help with hand fatigue that you'll get eventually on any bike. Make sure you adjust the bar ends, though. Mine had to be loosened, then pushed forward for true comfort.

    By the way, what price did you get it for?
    Taxed in $1060 Canadian.

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    any chance we could see some real world Rapid 1 pics? I hate the generic white backgrounds on the company websites. Their true beauty comes out in real worl pics

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exit3 View Post
    any chance we could see some real world Rapid 1 pics? I hate the generic white backgrounds on the company websites. Their true beauty comes out in real worl pics
    Here you go .... took about 3 days ago...

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    now THAT'S a quick response!! Thanks for the pic. I have benn thinking FX or Sirrus but lately I have been digging the Rapid !.

    Go Jersey!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dbl E GT View Post
    Here you go .... took about 3 days ago...

    2010 Giant Rapid 1.jpg
    I just got my bike home today! Pictures don't do this bike justice at all!! Holy sh@t it looks sleek!
    Anyways, whats the best way to store this bike in my garage? My Norco mtb hangs upside down "horizontal" with 2 bike hooks - 1 hook for each rim. Should I do this with the rapid? Or is this a bad idea? Thanks.

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    Store it under your body, preferrably rolling!

    Yes, that storage will be fine.

    Nice looking bike!

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