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Old 06-28-11, 03:08 PM   #1
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Kickstand

Forgive a stupid question, but I'm looking at kickstands for my ride and I'm planning to kit it out w/ racks & bags for commuting. Do I need a double-kickstand to handle a heavier, loaded bike? Is there some awesome kickstand out there that I don't yet know about and which will make my life better than I could ever imagine? Is a kickstand a stupid waste of time and weight?
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Old 06-28-11, 06:19 PM   #2
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If you're putting on racks and bags, the weight of the kickstand isn't an issue. Something like a stand like at www.click-stand.com would probably be better than a standard kickstand. Or just lean it against something.
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You don't really need a double stand. Pick your equipment and mounting location with care. I'm on my second one that mounts to the bottom bracket shell- and that one is getting ready to go away. I'm going to try for a Greenfield Stabilizer next.
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+1 on a normal kickstand and no they aren't a waste of time. Not sure why kickstands are so hated, they are a extremely handy for commuting and family biking. Why hunt around for a place to lean you bike on (and scratch it) when you can just use your own kickstand? I use the one that came stock on my Giant Transend and wouldn't be without it.
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Old 06-28-11, 11:24 PM   #5
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You don't really need a double stand. Pick your equipment and mounting location with care. I'm on my second one that mounts to the bottom bracket shell- and that one is getting ready to go away. I'm going to try for a Greenfield Stabilizer next.
I've seen those around--what's the benefit to that style (hooking on the rear dropout?) over a regular kickstand (like one of these, for instance)?
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I second the Greenfield Stabilizer; it handles heavy loads just fine. It can also be easily cut down to size with a hacksaw should it prove to be too long, just don't cut it too short (don't ask me how I know that)!

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I bet many of us have that "extra" kickstand laying around because it was cut too short!

For a hybrid or touring bike, I like having a kickstand. On a lightweight road bike, you have to be careful if you choose to use a kickstand. Even using a Greenfield Stabilizer, there is a chance of damaging the thin walled tubing used to make the chainstays by overtightening the kickstand. Also, due to the light weight of some road bikes, it can be easier to blow the bike over when on a kickstand. I no longer use a kickstand on my road bike because the winds in my area could blow over the bike no matter how I oriented the bike in relation to wind direction.

On my hybrid commuter bike, I gladly use the kickstand, as it doesn't have the blow over problems of the ultra-light road bike and it has a kickstand bridge between the chainstays so I don't have to worry about damaging the aluminum chainstays.

Unless you plan to go on a fully loaded tour, I would think the double kickstand is overkill. I would go with a standard kickstand cut to the proper length or with a Greenfield Stabilizer before I would do a double kickstand.
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Old 06-30-11, 03:47 PM   #8
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Thanks for the advice, all--I'm going w/ the Greenfield Stabilizer; I like the look and idea, and it sounds sturdy enough for my purposes.

Question: Does it flip forward (towards the cranks) or backwards (so it sticks past the back of the back wheel)?

EDIT: Scratch that--found a pic here: http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...r#post11205168

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+1 on a normal kickstand and no they aren't a waste of time. Not sure why kickstands are so hated, they are a extremely handy for commuting and family biking. Why hunt around for a place to lean you bike on (and scratch it) when you can just use your own kickstand? I use the one that came stock on my Giant Transend and wouldn't be without it.
Lie your bike on the ground, it can't fall from there. Kickstands work only on a flat, level surface.

That said, I do have a kickstand on my old, heavy bike. Can't really hurt it.
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I'm real happy with this double kickstand.

http://store.velo-orange.com/index.p...kickstand.html
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Hmm... Any recommendations for those of us with elevated chain stays?

https://goo.gl/photos/StfW8baVVDsxPbvg6
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Forgive a stupid question, but I'm looking at kickstands for my ride and I'm planning to kit it out w/ racks & bags for commuting...Is a kickstand a stupid waste of time and weight?
One thing I really like about the kickstand: you can stop almost anywhere and don't need to find something to lean your bike on.

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I found that dual kickstand makes taking off and reattaching front wheels much easier, especially with disc brakes. My truck has 3 bike mounts in the bed - front wheels go into the cabin.
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I don't trust kickstands, if you hop off a curb it might go down by accident and cause you to go down. I think just laying your bike on the ground is a good idea. I mean whats some dirt on the bike, its just a bicycle not a painting.
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Hmm... Any recommendations for those of us with elevated chain stays?

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interesting frame! I guess what dpeters11 suggested would work for you
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like mc9000 says kickstands give you more options for where you stop. particularly useful for photo ops. & you don't need level flat hard surfaces. if you have a sloped soft surface you just have to turn the bike around so the weight is leaning uphill. if the ground is soft either find a hard spot or stick something under the stand like a flat rock or a glove



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IMHO that clickstand is dumb, by that I mean it takes way too much time: take it out your pocket/whatever, fit it to the bike, then take it off, then dismantle it.


Just lean it on a tree or just put it on the ground for gods sake.
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Kickstands are amazing. I have some bikes with regular ones and one bike witha double. THAT bike has been used to haul groceries and my kid, when he fit in the baby sea. It was MUCH easier and SAFER to load with the double kick sand. Along the same lines, if you plan on towing a trailer for any reason you should be mindful that the Greenfield Stabilizer style stands could interfear with mounting the trailer, depending on the design.
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This bike , for Touring, with front and rear Panniers, has 2 separate kickstands .. one is on the front low-rider rack.

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