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    Hybrid Fender Coverage Concerns

    I've been lurking & reading the forums for a while now and just 2 weeks ago picked up a Specialized Crosstrail for my commute to work (6.5miles each way, just a couple hills, half road/paved path and half crushed limestone path)... thus far I've been really enjoying the ride- after not riding at all for ~9 years my goal was to make it in under 30 minutes so it's relatively quick without requiring too much effort on my way to the office- and short of when I was still learning the route I've hit that mark every time.

    Having had a few wet days last week I found myself searching for fenders so I can ride through the rain & puddles instead of wussing out & driving or getting to work with a wet streak up my back. My problem is none of the stores I've been to locally seem to have fenders that would fit the way I believe they should...

    From what I've read, I should look for fenders that are sized to match my tires but a bit wider... My bike has 700c x 45 semi-slicks, and all the fenders I'm finding locally are 700c x 45 (listed as being meant for 700c x 35 tires). So, would I be asking for wet trouble by using fenders that barely cover the entire width of the tire? Or should I order a pair of fenders online & hope they fit, etc.

    Right now I'm staring at an unopened set of Planet Bike Hardcore Hybrid Fender (700c x 45mm width) and trying to guess if I'd be better served with a set of SKS P50s or Chromoplastic P50s (700c/26" x 50mm w) or something larger yet, like Planet Bike Hardcore ATB Fenders (26" x 60mm w -Fits tires 26"x1.75" to 2.25").

    Am I right in assuming the PB Hardcore Hybrids just aren't wide enough and the SKS P50s are the way to go (though I'd have to add mudflaps and they're only 5mm wider) or do I give in & try the considerably wider 26" PB Hardcore ATBs on my 700c tires?

    *FYI, my Crosstrail is an XXL and appears it would have enough room to fit any of the fenders listed.

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    Get thinner tires! Why do need slick tires that wide? 28-35 is plenty wide (too wide for me).

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    go with SKS Commuters, 60mm wide.

    We have them on our tandem 37-622 (700c x 37) tires: http://s211.photobucket.com/albums/b...t=IMG_0694.jpg
    http://www.amazon.com/SKS-Commuter-B...0803197&sr=1-1
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    I have a Crosstrail Comp 09 and use the SKS x-blade 29er and it works fine. Now I am using only 700 x 37 but I think even with the 45's you would be ok!

    wbill

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    I have Kenda Keen Commuter 700x45 tires and Axiom Rainrunner trek plus disc fenders. It works.

    I have to say my bike is kind of comfortable with those tires and a Velo plush saddle with springs and seat suspension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaV View Post
    Get thinner tires! Why do need slick tires that wide? 28-35 is plenty wide (too wide for me).
    Having to do things on a tight budget and getting into biking slowly, I searched around for a while and this bike and setup were most comfortable of anything I tried- Being 6'6" my options were very limited. That said, I'm certainly willing to look into thinner tires at some point (even soon) but convincing my wife why I'd need to change the tires so soon after buying the bike, as well as the cost of doing so is a concern... Add in that I currently know close to nothing about what I'd need to buy to actually do so (rims, tubes, tires) as well as the necessary consideration that they be able to handle clydesdale weight (~260 currently, but going down) and handle some off roding on crushed limestone trails and some pretty soft spots on the commute.

    I'm very open to suggestion on rims, tubes, and tires to consider that fit the bill... especially if it helps my on-road portion of the commute and makes it easier to find & fit some fenders.

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    Well I started at 250 on my crosstrail and I am down to 217, and feel alot better. Plus I don't huff and puff going up stairs anymore. The only thing I can pass on is what I have "heard" on this forum and others. I have not run into these problems myself, watch out for spokes breaking on the rear wheel also the standard 700x45 tires that come with the bike tend to have flats. That's what "they" say whoever they is. I wanted to put road tires on my crosstrail so I replaced them first with a set of Panaracer Rimbo's in 700x35, then went with Michelin Pilot Sport also 700x35 I really liked them and now I have just put a set of Conti TravelContact's "http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/de/en/continental/bicycle/themes/city/tour/travelcontact/travelcontact_en.html" in a 700x37. All I can say is no flats on any of the tires I have used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by agfa100 View Post
    Well I started at 250 on my crosstrail and I am down to 217, and feel alot better. Plus I don't huff and puff going up stairs anymore. The only thing I can pass on is what I have "heard" on this forum and others. I have not run into these problems myself, watch out for spokes breaking on the rear wheel also the standard 700x45 tires that come with the bike tend to have flats. That's what "they" say whoever they is. I wanted to put road tires on my crosstrail so I replaced them first with a set of Panaracer Rimbo's in 700x35, then went with Michelin Pilot Sport also 700x35 I really liked them and now I have just put a set of Conti TravelContact's "http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/de/en/continental/bicycle/themes/city/tour/travelcontact/travelcontact_en.html" in a 700x37. All I can say is no flats on any of the tires I have used.
    wbill
    Thanks for the post re your experience. I haven't had any flats yet, but just yesterday I noticed my rear wheel had a slight wobble to it (no break rubbing though). I commuted in to work again today and this afternoon I took a little break from work to run my bike to the shop down the block... wheel was a little untrue but I was told it was ok yet and to let it be/stop back if it gets worse (employee suggested I wait a couple weeks before taking it in for my free tune-up, since the bike's less than a month old.) He simply spun it a few times... didn't check the spokes or anything like that. After work, about 3 miles down the road, I slowed down to take a sharp turn and heard/felt my rear brake rubbing! Despite that fact that my ride was pretty well packed path or paved to that point I haven't a clue what's going on, but I will be bringing it in to the shop where I got it tomorrow to have that remedied.

    Beyond that little issue, (sorry in advance for my ignorance) but do/did you need to change rims to fit those different size tires? If I wanted to switch from a 700Cx45 to a 700Cx37 for example, are new tires all I need? or should I also consider new wheels/rims, tubes, etc.? From what I'm seeing it's ok to change tire widths somewhat... but I have no idea how thin it's ok to go on these rims, and I know nothing about tubes...

    Thanks again for the help (and excusing my lack of knowledge in all things bike related.)
    Last edited by Huzzah81; 07-18-11 at 08:48 PM.

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    No the rims you have on the bike now will work fine with 700x35 or 37, all three of the tires I have used were a little tough to mount the first time but I pulled out my old Tire Stik and they went on fine. I would get them to true that rear wheel and reset the tension on the spokes. In the old days I always built up a set of really strong wheels on any bike I road even only being 175 back in another life. So I have a set of 36 hole blunt rims from velocity with White Industries hubs now, a bit of overkill but I don't worry about my wheels anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agfa100 View Post
    No the rims you have on the bike now will work fine with 700x35 or 37, all three of the tires I have used were a little tough to mount the first time but I pulled out my old Tire Stik and they went on fine. I would get them to true that rear wheel and reset the tension on the spokes. In the old days I always built up a set of really strong wheels on any bike I road even only being 175 back in another life. So I have a set of 36 hole blunt rims from velocity with White Industries hubs now, a bit of overkill but I don't worry about my wheels anymore.

    wbill
    Thanks again wbill... I flipped my bike over to spin/check the wheel & brakes and to do a little cleaning and looked a little closer at my spokes- one was actually broken at the hub but wedged between the other spokes & the dork disk so it looked good & in place. Brought it in to have the spoke replaced etc...
    Today I got a call that they replaced the spoke and were trueing the wheel when another spoke broke near the hub so they're assuming it's a bad wheel, rough/sharp edge, or something else defective- so they ordered me a new, stronger build, double wall wheel for no charge. It's sad that I've got to wait another week to get my bike back now but I won't need to worry so much anymore.

    Beyond that, I've got my eyes on a few skinnier tires that just might find their way to me in the near future- thanks for all the help.

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    I put these fenders on my Specialized Crosstrail:

    http://store.velo-orange.com/index.p...ders-700c.html

    I'm very happy with them and they were wide enough for the OEM tires.

    The OEM tires turned out to be far too flat-happy for me, though. When I had four flats in a two hundred mile period I gave up on them and replaced them with 35cm Inifinity Flak-Jackets. The Flak-Jackets made the OEM tires feel like they were made out of baggies.

    Here's a picture of my bike with the fenders and the original tires:


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    Those Zeppelins are classy, very nice!

    I've been doing more research & thinking and (at least for now) have decided on my plan of attack...

    I haven't had any flats at all with the stock tires (~200 miles my first 3 weeks of commuting) so I'm going to roll with them for a little bit longer- come spring I'm planning on putting some thinner tires on regardless of how they do. I'm thinking of these as a transitional tire from the really beefy mountain bike tires I used to bike on to the faster tire of my near future... not to mention there are still a handful of other supplies I need more immediately.

    That said, I've got a set of SKS P50 Chromoplastics on the way.
    Thanks again HyBros & Gals!

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    Hello, alienbogey, it looks like I have exactly the same bike as you. It's a black Crosstrail Sport Disc 2011, right?
    How you did you mount the front fender?, There is no drillings for it in the fork. What's the trick to attach those rods on the fork?


    Quote Originally Posted by alienbogey View Post
    I put these fenders on my Specialized Crosstrail:

    http://store.velo-orange.com/index.p...ders-700c.html

    I'm very happy with them and they were wide enough for the OEM tires.

    The OEM tires turned out to be far too flat-happy for me, though. When I had four flats in a two hundred mile period I gave up on them and replaced them with 35cm Inifinity Flak-Jackets. The Flak-Jackets made the OEM tires feel like they were made out of baggies.

    Here's a picture of my bike with the fenders and the original tires:


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    The VO's are nice, no two ways about it. Chris rocks. You may also want to take a look at these.
    They mount pretty well & come with a great mudflap already built in.
    They also have a more narrow version.
    Really pretty much any full coverage fender is fine, I run an ancient SKS set that works good 'nuff that I haven't bothered installing the cascadia's I've had sitting around for a while despite their obviously better setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtabach View Post
    Hello, alienbogey, it looks like I have exactly the same bike as you. It's a black Crosstrail Sport Disc 2011, right?
    How you did you mount the front fender?, There is no drillings for it in the fork. What's the trick to attach those rods on the fork?
    I bought some pieces from Velo Orange that have been perfect for my needs.


    They're simple little stainless steel pieces that you put inside the quick release nuts, essentially creating a pair of attachment points for the fender stays. With the SKS Chromoplastics I got & attached I have had zero issues. They're attached solid & haven't changed a bit since install last fall.

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