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Old 07-24-11, 07:56 PM   #1
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Giant Roan 1 - Expected Top Speed?

Hello all. I'm new to biking for fitness. Have been getting more serious lately. I currently have a 15 yr old Balance Mountain bike that is a little small for my build. I'm riding about average 11 mph right now with it.

Have money down on a Giant Roam 1. Looking forward to getting it and got the idea that it would be a great bike from reading here.

What are average speeds everyone is getting? Does upgrading a bike help with increasing speed?

I'd love to get a road bike but where I live I have to ride in dirt sometimes due to vehicles and no bike lanes.

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Old 07-24-11, 08:15 PM   #2
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Lots of different factors come into play for different people- equipment, terrain, traffic, fitness level... Best bet would be for you to use Sheldon Brown's online gear calculator.
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I have had a Roam 1 for about 5 months and live in middle TN with quite a few hills. I generally average around 14 mph on my rides. It's gonna vary greatly with terrain, road conditions, and your strength/fitness.

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I get about 14 mph avg on paved trails/roads. Dirt/pebble trails are obviously slower and depend on the terrain.
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Thanks all. I'm a noob right now. The calculator looks promising. I'll need to learn what the inputs requested means.

I'm 39, 5'11", 237 lbs. The terrain is slightly slopey. Mountains around but I'm not climbing them. Most elevation changes are about 100 - 200 ft at this point. Starting 1400ft climbing to 1600 ft, then back down.

Bassplyr, how do you like the bike?
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im averaging 14-15 on mine, but im kinda new to riding so i havent really pushed myself yet. im sure once we get some miles under our belts we'll be going faster. but like some of the others have mentioned, the terrain and our fitness levels have a lot to do with it.
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Upgrade engine first, worry about upgrading bike later
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Bassplyr loves the Roam 1. I must also confess I have been bitten by the road bike bug and pick up a new Trek 2.1 later this week. The Roam will still get alot of use, but I couldn't resist lighter, faster and easier on the hills.

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Lol. I love it Cant help but agree. I am upgrading my bike however because for 15 hrs I've been casually riding a med/small bike when I should have been riding a large bike all along, according to the bike shop. The roam 1 does feel better. I can't wait to finish paying on it.

Thanks for your feedback Roger. Sounds like I'll have some more saving to do ;-)
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I use my hybrid for group rides where others are very casual and riding 29ers and regular MTBs on paths or neighborhood roads, and for MTB trails. I have cyclocross knobbies on it and they're more than adequate to do 10-14 mph on the bike path, and work good for the mild MTB trails in my area.

I was borrowing a road bike for going far & fast on pavement only and finally pulled the trigger on my own. My wife is pretty fit and keeps up on her Cannondale Adventure, but I think she'll eventually see the need for a road bike too.

There's a huge variety of bikes and you should consider all options, but if you're doing solely road and you have some moderately hilly terrain, I think an inexpensive road bike would be by far your best option. Once you have visited local bike shops and know what you want/need, consider used.. but don't just buy some random bike from CL or ebay. Right now is a good time to buy on ebay because dealers, racers and enthusiasts are all preparing for the 2012 models and shedding their 2011s. (Casual riders, in my opinion, are largely unaffected by the 'new' wave that happens each year.) Another good time to buy is when the season is over, unless you live in the sunbelt because the season never ends. But for the rest of the country you can get good deals in October through early November.

Oh and my $0.02 about the riding you described and what bike you need-- flat bars are great offroad, but they definitely aren't my first choice for pounding out miles on the road. Drop bars all the way!
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Hmm. Got me wondering. I do live in AZ so it is sunny year round here. I do want to start consistently doing 25+ miles per day. I live in a rural area though and sometimes I'm forced off the road into soft dirt due to motorists and the road being so tight on the shoulder. So I decided on the Roam 1. Haven't paid it off yet and can change bike if desired. I do aspire tok a road bike some day.
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Can somebody confirm if a road bike can go off road for short periods on harder dirt?
I rode 18 miles this morning. Tried a different route today. It's mostly road, but there are a couple of areas where I absolutely HAVE to get off the road if I want to survive. The dirt is pretty solid with some pebbles. Desert dirt. The ride got me feeling tired of the position I was in with my bike.

After reading here, I'm starting to second guess the Roam 1 and maybe looking at a Road Bike instead.

Any thoughts please?
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I've done it on road bikes-- a normal road race / training tire or slick is very sketchy on hardpack.

If you buy a touring tire with some actual tread it helps a lot, but you give up some road traction and rolling resistance. Something like a Vittoria Randonneur, for example.


I like the Giant Roam 1. If you find yourself wanting a little more road performance, first try some 28-32mm cyclocross tires. (Check with LBS and/or Giant to confirm smallest your rim can mount, but it should be at least 32mm.) You can also mount a true road tire, but I just explained above that it won't be very good on gravel.
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You all got my head spinning! That's good. I want to get the right bike.

So I went to LBS with these questions. It seems as though I may actually be better fit with a Specialized Tricross. Most of my riding will be on road and I want to go distance. But I will be forced to go on dirt sometimes due to no bike lane issues. The tricross has pull down bars.

Can anyone give thoughts between the two? Giant Roam 1 vs Specialized Tricross. The tricross doesn't have disc brakes but I've never had those anyway.

I appreciate all your thoughts.
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For what you're doing right now, my opinion is Tricross or similar drop-handled bike that can fit a 32-35mm hybrid/cyclocross tire. In the future you could keep doing what you're doing or grow into more road and you're in good shape. If you start liking MTB trails though, you're going to be bike shopping again. Front suspension is huge and flat bars are a lot better at low speed off-road too.

Conversely, the Roam 1 will easily hang with your typical entry-level MTB.

I've said enough... I'm sure you will get more opinions and good ones. Have fun shopping
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For what you're doing right now, my opinion is Tricross or similar drop-handled bike that can fit a 32-35mm hybrid/cyclocross tire.

I've said enough... I'm sure you will get more opinions and good ones. Have fun shopping
Actually, I think your spot on and I appreciate your input. It's gonna cost me a little more but it will be better for me. I'm pretty confident in stating that I have no plans to do MTB. If that changes, I'll cross that bridge when I get there.

The guy at my LBS agrees too. He says the Gioant is a MTB that can do road and the Tricross is more of a road that can do MTB.

I'll have to order one to see how well it rides because they don't stock it unfortunately.

I'm thinking it would be a better option. Just hope the Tricross is a solid bike.
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The Tricross is a decent bike. They killed the model about a year ago, but I think that they are bringing it back- sorta how Ford killed the Taurus and then ended up slapping the Taurus name on the model that replaced the Taurus...

Edit: The Tricross is coming back as an early 2012.
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The Tricross is a decent bike. They killed the model about a year ago, but I think that they are bringing it back- sorta how Ford killed the Taurus and then ended up slapping the Taurus name on the model that replaced the Taurus...

Edit: The Tricross is coming back as an early 2012.
Hope that = good?
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The Tricross is not a bad option for what you are wanting to do. However, as you've been riding a MTB for the past 15 years, getting used to drops may (or may not) be an issue. Too bad you'd have to order the Tricross before actually getting to try it first.
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Actually they will order it. I have to put 50% down on it - they said it's a special order. I can then ride it and if it doesn't work out they will give store credit toward any other bike. I like this store so it's not a big problem for me to do it this way. If it doesn't work out I still have the Giant option. Or other.
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Care to drop the name of the LBS?
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I'm looking at the 2012 Tricross. Is it a worthy bike? Or just a cheaper model with cheap components? I'm really not good at spotting the difference. At $1000 level I would have thought disc brakes would have been standard. ???

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Cyclocross bikes don't have disc brakes standard. It's because they generally use tough/beefy road wheels. Discs are for hybrid & 29er wheels.

I think the 2012 Tricross looks like a pretty good bike for the money. I like Specialized in general. Make sure to try the 2 closest frame sizes that the LBS recommends for your body dimensions. Most people will be able to fit one frame for a more upright ride, and the next smaller for a more aggressive riding posture.

Final suggestion - test ride similarly priced road bikes so you can compare to the Tricross. The Secteur is probably a bit lighter, a bit more upright posture, but I'm positive it can't fit bigger than 28mm tires.. my dad owns one, and I've ridden it a bit (over 100 miles, probably). All you need to check in the comparo with a 'normal' road bike is that you don't *strongly* prefer the road bike. They can't do what the Tricross can, and you should expect some give & take.
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Um, CX bikes didn't have disc brakes mainly because they weren't allowed at sanctioned events. They are now legal, and quite a few CX models are sporting discs- Redline Conquest comes to mind.
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All I can say is thanks everyone for your help.
This is a great forum with great riders. Really do appreciate it.
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