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    help deciding on a tires

    im currently riding on stock 700x40 but i want to get a set of 700x28 for when im street riding. ive narrowed it down to the panaracer ribmos and the serfas seca survivors, based on reviews, looks and price. has anyone tried these tires out and can give me some feedback? which is the better tire? thanks

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    Vittoria Randonneur 28c.

    It's the best of the moderately priced midsize tires.
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    I just finally got a flat today on 700x28 Vittoria Zaffiros after a little over 2000 miles. The rear tire gave up the ghost and started poking the tube. I'm replacing them with a new pair of Vittoria Zaffiros, $14 each delivered. I can't see using anything else, as their performance far exceeds their price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by late View Post
    Vittoria Randonneur 28c.

    It's the best of the moderately priced midsize tires.
    Gotta 'gree with this.
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    They will try to teach you a lesson if given the chance, and you will stumble over their stinking feet."

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    I've run the Serfas "Survivor" on two different bikes with excellent results. No Flats! Latest set is 700 X 28. Only a couple of hundred miles so far, but perfect.... Good luck

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    I run the Serfas Secas on my bike. It's been about 120 miles on them. No flats whatsoever. I ride on some harsh terrain, and would get flats every 75-100 miles on my old tires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by late View Post
    Vittoria Randonneur 28c.

    It's the best of the moderately priced midsize tires.
    i'm with you on that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaDogg View Post
    I run the Serfas Secas on my bike. It's been about 120 miles on them. No flats whatsoever. I ride on some harsh terrain, and would get flats every 75-100 miles on my old tires.
    I bought 12 of them on sale for $9.95. Have one with 4,000 miles no flats.
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    Another vote for Vittoria Randonneur or Zaffiro. I have both and am very happy with them.

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    I'm a 200 lb. + Clyde. I'm 6' 1" and have been hovering around 200 my entire life. Lets say I never get down to 170....

    What tire would you recommend for me?
    "Watch out for giants; they are boorish fools with tongues wagging, drunk upon their own words.
    They will try to teach you a lesson if given the chance, and you will stumble over their stinking feet."

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    looks like i overlooked the vittorias, back to the drawing board

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    Dahut, a 700x28 tire will easily support 200 pounds on the right wheels. (Anything but ultra low spoke count, really.)

    The Vittorias are good suggestions.

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    My Marin Mill Valley came with Vittorias. One failed catastrophically riding home from the shop. The other died a few weeks later.

    I've had better luck with Continental Gatorskins and Specialized Armadillos.

    I'm going to try 70x28 Schwalbe Marathon Plus next to try something different. They're supposed to be better than the gators and 'dillos from what I'm told here.

    It's hard for me to tell the difference but I did notice two flats in the last week, so I think I need new rubber. I blew my pay on a saddle, pedals, shorts, gloves, tubes, patch kits and a torx wrench, so i'm hoping to get two more weeks out of the Contis.

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    The Marathon Plus has quite a bit of tread... it's meant to be for sporadic gravel or light trail use. It's very, very different from the Continental Gatorskin which is a near-slick not intended for any dirt use.

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    A friend who has a Schwalaby Marathon 32 on his tourer has over 20k miles on the tire. It spent 17 to 18k miles on the front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColinL View Post
    The Marathon Plus has quite a bit of tread... it's meant to be for sporadic gravel or light trail use.
    According to who? Schwalbe lists them as city/touring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qmsdc15 View Post
    My Marin Mill Valley came with Vittorias. One failed catastrophically riding home from the shop. The other died a few weeks later.
    Do you remember which Vittoria tires you had? I've had great success commuting on Vittoria Randonneur Pro tires on my commuter bike, and only a goathead flat on my Vittoria Rubino Pro III tires on my road bike. While I've had good luck so far with Vittoria tires, if there is a model I should avoid, I want to avoid it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qmsdc15 View Post
    According to who? Schwalbe lists them as city/touring.
    What's the purpose of tread on a bicycle tire intended for purely road use? Slicks are ideal for road, even in the rain.

    Once you add in a little dirt, though, tread becomes useful. LOOK at the tire and make your own conclusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dahut View Post
    I'm a 200 lb. + Clyde. I'm 6' 1" and have been hovering around 200 my entire life. Lets say I never get down to 170....

    What tire would you recommend for me?
    Depends on what your priorities are.

    How much do you want to spend.

    What do you want a new tire to do that the old one doesn't

    In general, I like the Vittoria Randonneurs. The original is quite good.
    I have been riding the randonneur Hypers, and they are quite good.
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    now i cant decide between the randonneurs and zaffiros, good thing is they're not expensive. before i go out and pick up a set of 28s, i have another ? for the bf pros. i really dont even know if they will fit on my wheels, info on the wheels say 622x19.

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    A 19mm rim is very typical for a road bike, pretty narrow for a hybrid. Your range of useable tires is 23-28mm.

    Within that range you would find most 23mm tires to very snug and not overly fun to install even with plastic tire tools. Conversely the 28mm will probably fit loosely and be able to be installed and removed by hand (without tools).

    However, you need to be very cautious putting the wider tires on... it is easy to pinch the tube, unseat the bead, etc. I'm sure the maint & repair forum has topics about this, but in general you will want to inflate slowly and check the bead to ensure it is seated. That's a good idea every time, of course, but very critical in this situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColinL View Post
    A 19mm rim is very typical for a road bike, pretty narrow for a hybrid. Your range of useable tires is 23-28mm.
    I wonder if there was a mistake. They don't pick the brightest bulbs to write the catalogs.
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    I'm running Kenda Kwest 700x28c on my hybrid. I've ridden over 2600km and I've only had one flat, which wasn't the tire's fault - the valve stem of the tube broke. No puncture flats, at all. And Shanghai streets are not precisely tire friendly - lots of debris, rough pavement, cracks, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dahut View Post
    I'm a 200 lb. + Clyde. I'm 6' 1" and have been hovering around 200 my entire life. Lets say I never get down to 170....

    What tire would you recommend for me?
    Don't stress about weight...I'm 6ft 5 and 225. I alternate a pair of 28mm Schwalbe Marathon Supremes and some 35mm Racing Ralphs. You'd need to be pretty heavy to start choosing specific tires due to weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexi01 View Post
    Don't stress about weight...I'm 6ft 5 and 225. I alternate a pair of 28mm Schwalbe Marathon Supremes and some 35mm Racing Ralphs. You'd need to be pretty heavy to start choosing specific tires due to weight.
    While I agree that you shouldn't stress about tire weight, you should know that unusually heavy tire/wheel combinations cause you to have to work a little harder to accelerate. It takes more force to spin up a heavy wheel than a light wheel, like a heavy flywheel on an engine as opposed to a lightened flywheel. If you are used to lightweight wheels and tires, you will notice the difference when moving to something heavier. This also means that once the heavier wheels are up to speed, they have more momentum than lighter wheels.

    Added weight on other parts of the bike have a much smaller impact on your ride than heavier wheels or tires, because of the flywheel effect realized by spinning wheels. Most of the tires mentioned above are reasonable in their weight, so you shouldn't have any issues. I have an old set of Innova tires that have rather thick tread on them, and the difference in weight with them is enough to feel when spinning up the wheels. Those tires stay on the shelf for that reason.

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