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Old 08-12-11, 12:32 AM   #1
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Hybrid into roadbike..4sure!

Well i know this questions has been ask in converting hybrids into road bikes, and i know people out there just say to buy a road bike instead of wasting money and time, but am on a budget so bare with me...But if I end up falling in love with my Frankenstein conversion, then i will spend the money on REAL road bike. I been doing searching on parts for my experiment, 1) Road Style handlebars, 2) Tape wrap, 3) Shifters and brake combo, 4) Cassettes, 5) cables 6) Derailleur..Is there anything else i might need or not need and yes i am a newbie to the biking community, can you tell
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Also any good websites for ordering parts..?
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If you're really on a budget, scrounge. That's what I did. I took this bike, a 1994 Nishiki Sport XRS



and did a drop-bar conversion



Handlebars and brake levers were $20 at a swap meet. Bar end shifters (Suntour Barcon ratcheted shifters) were $35 at another swap meet. I got a stem and a quill adapter for $20. Bar tape was $5 on sale, I coated it with amber shellac to get the Brooks honey brown look to match the seat. Because I routed the shifter cables under the tape I had to buy a new shifter cable for the rear. The length required a tandem shift cable which was about $10 at the LBS. Total for the conversion was about $100.

Now, it's not a total road bike conversion. The gearing is still hybrid gearing; my big chain ring is only 48 teeth or something like that. Geometry is still more upright than a true road bike. But it can be done on the cheap with stuff you can get used or on closeout.
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1) Road Style handlebars, 2) Tape wrap, 3) Shifters and brake combo, 4) Cassettes, 5) cables 6) Derailleur..Is there anything else i might need or not need and yes i am a newbie to the biking community, can you tell
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1) $30 min
2) $10
3) ~ $150 (tiagra)
4)$30-$40
5) ...
6)$50

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~$280.

Aree you going to do the convertion yourself? If not, then add $70-$80 (can be $170 in some LBS)

For $400-$500 you can get very decent road bike on CL. Try it - if it is not working then sell it - this try will cost nothing.
I'm trying to get my wife into MTB and following the same plan "buy-try-sell if it is not working".
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Total for the conversion was about $100.
Let me understand what did you achive?
How often you use the drop bar in lowest position?
I bet you tried couple of times and did not like it.

If this is true then it could be much easier way to lower your position and get a road bike feel - $15 adaptor for threaded fork to accept regular stem (you 've done it anyway), $15 dollars stem (long and straight put it in negative angle). and $10 bar ends if you do not like yours.

It may work for anybody who is trying to feel like a sportsman on hybrid bike.
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I played around with several styles of bar ends before going over to the drop bars. This bike is my commuter, and my commute home is usually into the wind (typically 15 mph headwind). So yeah, I use the drops regularly. I've lowered the handlebars some since the second picture (rotated them down).

And it isn't like I went out and bought all the stuff in one day. I bought the handlebars and brake levers a couple years earlier for another project. I acquired a lot of the other stuff opportunistically. In the end, I was vacillating between drop bars and a trekking (butterfly) bar, and as it turns out I found the bar end shifters before I found a trekking bar.
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To ride against the 15mph wind is not a picnic - makes sense to bend a little
And may be it can the right approach - flip over stem, try drop bars first, even keep the shifters and brakes in the middel of this drop bar ( I saw this set up on some bikes) or try bar end shifters (they can be cheap)
And see how much you love "road" bike before making any serious steps.
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Been there, not done that.

I bought a new expensive hybrid back in March. Like you after riding it a while (30 days) I decided I really wanted a road bike. Like you I spent hours and hours trying to figure out how to convert the hybrid into a road bike. Finally, I came to the conclusion that you mentioned in your initial post -- it's too expensive, don't do it.

I watched Craigslist daily for 30 days and found a super deal on a 5 year old road bike. It wasn't easy, I looked at 4 or 5 real clunkers before finding a real gem. I spent a LOT less money buying the used bike than converting my hybrid.

Now, I've sold the hybrid for more than I paid for the used road bike. Sure overall I lost money on the hybrid, but I got a great bike and learned that I love cycling and I now am riding religiously 80 to 100 miles a week.

Budget or no budget, spend your money on a good used road bike and sell the hybrid. Don't waste time and money trying to turn the hybrid into a roadie.

PS. Even though all this took place within the last 4 months, I now have a $3000 brand new road bike to replace the used road bike I found on Craigslist.
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I just like playing around, trying different things, to be honest. I'm always tweaking things.
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There are two to three posts per week on this:

1) Novice rider, or rider reentering sport, gets "hybrid" to start riding again.
2) Rider is quickly hooked and desires more performance.
3) Rider flips and lowers stem for most aggressive position, and buys skinnier tires.
4) Rider begins deliberating: a. upgrade current, b. buy used road bike, c. buy new "high end" road bike.
5) Implement decision from 4), usually a. or b.
6) Return to step 2)
7) Purchase high end road bike from 4c.

I am not immune to this and am firmly entrenched in step 4. Good luck to us all
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I'm glad, in a way, that my son is in college and I have little extra money. It keeps me from just wantonly spending on 4c. Eventually I will get something much better than the garbage picked/pawn shop/dumpster dive bikes I currently ride, but by then I'll have read this thread and others identical to it several hundred times and will have a good idea of what I want when I finally upgrade.
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I did 4a), replaced every component on 2010 Sirrus Sport, except frame, fork, headset and brakes, then bought new frame, fork, headset, and brakes to build a new bike. Rebuilt Sirrus to stock, then bought parts to make stock Sirrus into single speed knobby tired creation. Now I shop for 4c) when I'm not riding.

But on a positive note, my neighbor just got a $10 Specialized Rockhopper from CL, and is buying the leftover Sirrus parts for $35. So $2000 invested, $35 return.. At this rate, I'm ahead of the NASDAQ
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There are two to three posts per week on this:

1) Novice rider, or rider reentering sport, gets "hybrid" to start riding again.
2) Rider is quickly hooked and desires more performance.
3) Rider flips and lowers stem for most aggressive position, and buys skinnier tires.
4) Rider begins deliberating: a. upgrade current, b. buy used road bike, c. buy new "high end" road bike.
5) Implement decision from 4), usually a. or b.
6) Return to step 2)
7) Purchase high end road bike from 4c.

I am not immune to this and am firmly entrenched in step 4. Good luck to us all
I got to step 2, and then traded in a Trek 7300 for a Trek 7.5FX. Closer to a road bike, for sure, but ... I'm considering part of step 3, skinnier tires.

In reality, I'm at step 4b, watching CL for just the right bike to come along (I'm thinking maybe this winter

But I'm not complaining, as I've re-awakened a love of riding that I had forgotten about.
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I am not sure about skinnier tires, I am 210 lbs and like the Hybrid tires, I can see a road bike with hybrid tires, in fact when I grew up in France, I probably spend 15 Years on a similat type bike to commute etc, I just like the bigger tires like 32mm or so, roads really suck in NY.
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210 is not the weight that can damage any decent road tire.
may be not 23 (not because of weight but because of NY roads ) but 25 or 28 will be very OK.
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I am not sure about skinnier tires, I am 210 lbs and like the Hybrid tires, I can see a road bike with hybrid tires, in fact when I grew up in France, I probably spend 15 Years on a similat type bike to commute etc, I just like the bigger tires like 32mm or so, roads really suck in NY.
What you describe is called a cx (cyclocross) bike.
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So I am not the only one, right now looking at road bikes.



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There are two to three posts per week on this:

1) Novice rider, or rider reentering sport, gets "hybrid" to start riding again.
2) Rider is quickly hooked and desires more performance.
3) Rider flips and lowers stem for most aggressive position, and buys skinnier tires.
4) Rider begins deliberating: a. upgrade current, b. buy used road bike, c. buy new "high end" road bike.
5) Implement decision from 4), usually a. or b.
6) Return to step 2)
7) Purchase high end road bike from 4c.

I am not immune to this and am firmly entrenched in step 4. Good luck to us all
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Conversion. extremely succesful according to me. My beater and commuter bike. I live in the flatlands (windy) so the drop is much appriciated. The bar is actually a bit lower today, since hybrid forks go rather high. But it is still a hybrid, with drop bars.
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We may need to start a support group. "Hi, my name is RollCNY. I love my hybrid, but find myself looking at road bikes. At first it was casual, and I could stop at any time. But now......."
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Conversion. extremely succesful according to me. My beater and commuter bike. I live in the flatlands (windy) so the drop is much appriciated. The bar is actually a bit lower today, since hybrid forks go rather high. But it is still a hybrid, with drop bars.
Looks like you have a nice seat to bar drop. Many hybrids can't get that, so even with drops they aren't super aero. I don't think anyone is saying that it can't be done successfully. Just that it may be cost prohibitive if not done carefully.

Did you have any trouble with the brake levers? I have always been told that linear pull or v-brakes require longer pull than a road brake/shifter allows?
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we may need to start a support group. "hi, my name is rollcny. I love my hybrid, but find myself looking at road bikes. At first it was casual, and i could stop at any time. But now......."
hahahaha i love that!
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you can buy a nice used road bike for less than it will cost to convert your bike
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Not with STI shifters.
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Looks like you have a nice seat to bar drop. Many hybrids can't get that, so even with drops they aren't super aero. I don't think anyone is saying that it can't be done successfully. Just that it may be cost prohibitive if not done carefully.

Did you have any trouble with the brake levers? I have always been told that linear pull or v-brakes require longer pull than a road brake/shifter allows?
Not a problem really. They brakes bites fiercefully, but its a matter of experience and handling.
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you can buy a nice used road bike for less than it will cost to convert your bike
I used an old bar = zero cost. I bought brifters at a super sale = 150 USD. Bar tape = 5 USD. And I got myself a unique super hybrid. Cant get any cheaper than that.

But I like used bikes too - often a clever move.
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We may need to start a support group. "Hi, my name is RollCNY. I love my hybrid, but find myself looking at road bikes. At first it was casual, and I could stop at any time. But now......."
Hey, that statement goes both ways, after riding a road bike for almost 40 years I'm looking for more comfort now. Inline brake levers helped me raise up my position and still allowed me to go low when I wanted to, but my Roam covers more riding possibilities. It seemed perfect until my butt couldn't adjust to the seat on the bumps, so I got a slighlty cushy one. Then the grips seemed lacking for alternate positions so the Ergons solved that one. We'll see what happens when the tires wear out.
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