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Old 10-06-11, 01:32 PM   #1
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Pondering a 56 centimeter Specialized Allez. I'm 6' 4" tall.

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Iím looking at buying a Specialized Allez. The frame size is 56 centimeters. Iím 6 feet and 4 inches tall and I weigh 190 pounds. My inseam is 34 inches and my shirt size is an 18 collar and 36 inch sleeves.

I prefer road bicycles and the Allez would be lighter and faster than my Giant mountain bicycle with an aluminum frame. And the price is reasonable. From the size charts I looked at, 56 centimeters is a bit short for me, both in terms of height and the length of the top tube.

Iím thinking I would hike the seat up as far as it would go, lose those awful dropdown handlebars and install a nice pair of upright handlebars. (Dropdown handlebars are horribly designed from an ergonomic perspective. At the very least, the bottom parts should spread outward so the top parts donít get in the way. But the crappy design doesnít even manage to get that obvious thing right. Putting your hands on the top bar is a strain on the wrists. Riding for hours all bent over is a strain on your lower back and a strain on your neck because youíre holding your neck at an unnatural position just to see where youíre going.)

I looked at handlebar stems. I see there are a few that are adjustable. I could get one that is adjustable and goes up diagonally. That would give me more reach, both up and across. A bicycle in my size range is 60 centimeters. Only 4 centimeters more, which is 1.57 inches. I could certainly find a handlebar stem that goes up and over 1.57 inches.

Thereís always an inflexible person in every crowd. Iím not interested in the opinions of people who only know how to do things one way. Iím interested in people who know how to gather data, piece it together and solve problems.

Thank you for your ideas, Anthony
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Old 10-06-11, 01:37 PM   #2
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You're not going to find many good replies here in Road, even though you want a road bike. It's just that 99.99% of us don't set them up the way you want to. Nobody's wrong, just different.

I'm thinking you might want to try the hybrid forum. What do you think? Let me know and I could move the thread there for you.
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There’s always an inflexible person in every crowd. I’m not interested in the opinions of people who only know how to do things one way. I’m interested in people who know how to gather data, piece it together and solve problems.

Thank you for your ideas, Anthony
Too small. Great first post BTW.
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and if you're serious it's too small.
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I’m interested in people who know how to gather data, piece it together and solve problems.
Sorry - he passed away yesterday.

I ride a 56cm frame, am 6'2" and 32" inseam and and I'm really pushing it. My next bike will probably be a 58.

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Bon Jour,

Iím looking at buying a Specialized Allez. The frame size is 56 centimeters. Iím 6 feet and 4 inches tall and I weigh 190 pounds. My inseam is 34 inches and my shirt size is an 18 collar and 36 inch sleeves.

I prefer road bicycles and the Allez would be lighter and faster than my Giant mountain bicycle with an aluminum frame. And the price is reasonable. From the size charts I looked at, 56 centimeters is a bit short for me, both in terms of height and the length of the top tube.

Iím thinking I would hike the seat up as far as it would go, lose those awful dropdown handlebars and install a nice pair of upright handlebars.
(Dropdown handlebars are horribly designed from an ergonomic perspective. At the very least, the bottom parts should spread outward so the top parts donít get in the way. But the crappy design doesnít even manage to get that obvious thing right. Putting your hands on the top bar is a strain on the wrists. Riding for hours all bent over is a strain on your lower back and a strain on your neck because youíre holding your neck at an unnatural position just to see where youíre going.)

I looked at handlebar stems. I see there are a few that are adjustable. I could get one that is adjustable and goes up diagonally. That would give me more reach, both up and across. A bicycle in my size range is 60 centimeters. Only 4 centimeters more, which is 1.57 inches. I could certainly find a handlebar stem that goes up and over 1.57 inches.

Thereís always an inflexible person in every crowd. Iím not interested in the opinions of people who only know how to do things one way. Iím interested in people who know how to gather data, piece it together and solve problems.

Thank you for your ideas, Anthony
Drop handlebars are a wonderfully designed from an ergonomic perspective. There is a reason why over 90% of cyclists who regularly cycle for more than a couple of hours at a time use drop handlebars - do check out the long distance cycling subforum if you don't believe me. You just need to try them out on a properly fit bicycle, not on one several sizes too small.

Since you like gathering data, why don't you actually gather some data on a subject before giving a horribly misinformed opinion?
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I am 6 2 with 34 inseam I ride a 61 and a 59. Both work great my guess is this way small.
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Old 10-06-11, 02:20 PM   #13
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Didn't read it but a 56 is way too small for someone that's 6'4". You should be looking at at least 60cm IMO and even that might be small depending on the geometry and your proportions. You will never make a 56 work.
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Why not just get a hybrid bike?
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Drop bars give at least 5 hand positions if you care to use them. Flat bars have one unless bar ends, and then 2 or 3 at most.

This helps reduce hand and wrist fatigue.


If you do want flatbars anyway, the hybrid forum is definitely the place for you. Really fast and light flatbar bikes do exist-- Cannondale Quick 1, Trek FX 7.9, Specialized Sirrus Limited, and many others.
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You want him to convert an Allez into a recumbent?
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I'm 6'3" with a 36.5 inseam, and ride a 60cm Orbea Onix ("compact" frame), a 62cm Gunnar Roadie ("semi-compact"), and a 65cm Trek 610 ("traditional" geometry, vintage 1984). I'd say the 56 is WAY too small for you. You'd probably have serious trouble getting sufficent height and reach in your handlebar position. DON'T DO IT!!

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THAT would be something wouldn't it?
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lose those awful dropdown handlebars and install a nice pair of upright handlebars.
I'm sorry, but this just screams troll to me. If you're serious, however, the bike is too small for you. Also, a properly set up top bar will be in a very similar position to flat bars and behave the same for the wrists.
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You can always replace the bars with Mountain Drop bars. The drop ends flare out to the sides, just like you say they should.

You seem to indicate you have back flexibility issues. The correct solution is not to "baby" your back, but to actually become more flexible through consistent and safe stretching practices.

Sounds like you are trying to turn a road bike into a wheelchair. Is that how you want to grow old? Coddling yourself so that you become a fragile, inflexible old guy? Better to get flexible and strengthen your core. Then a road bike won't seem as ridiculously uncomfortable as you are making them out them out to be. Do it while you still can.
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I'm sorry, but this just screams troll to me.
Agreed
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BillyD, good idea

BillyD, yes, that's a good idea about moving the conversation.

The reason I'm looking at this Specialized Allez is it's cost effective, which means cheap!

There is no way I'm going to spend $600 or more on a bicycle. I'm used to tinkering with cars, changing alternators, starters, replacing brake parts. Changing a bicycle stem is a breeze.
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