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    I am interested in learning more about this hierarchy. I am currently looking at a bike with these specs:

    FD SHIMANO M191, 34.9 CLAMP

    RD SHIMANO ACERA

    CRANK SHIMANO M171 48/38/28

    SHIFTERS SHIMANO ALTUS

    The price point on this bike is $725.....are the components on the same level?
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    Where do hybrid bikes fall into in reference to parts? Do they use road or mtb parts usually? I'm asking cause I am about to receive my new bike and will be upgrading parts eventually. thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rdrcr View Post
    Where do hybrid bikes fall into in reference to parts? Do they use road or mtb parts usually? I'm asking cause I am about to receive my new bike and will be upgrading parts eventually. thanks
    What bike specifically? A hybrid is anything that's not quite a road bike and not quite a mountain bike. It can fall anywhere in between those two extremes. Bikes closer to road bikes user road components like flat bar road bikes, although some use mountain bike components. Those closer to mountain bikes will use mountain bike components. I think some are even a mix of the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grindr82 View Post
    I am interested in learning more about this hierarchy. I am currently looking at a bike with these specs:

    FD SHIMANO M191, 34.9 CLAMP

    RD SHIMANO ACERA

    CRANK SHIMANO M171 48/38/28

    SHIFTERS SHIMANO ALTUS

    The price point on this bike is $725.....are the components on the same level?
    What bike is that? It looks over priced.

    What about the other parts? Sealed or unsealed hubs, rims, brakes? Frame material? Is it butted? Is there carbon fiber fork?

    On second thought, maybe it's not too far off, though it still seems like a bit much. I have a Tourney FD, Deore RD, crank is probably equiv to Acera, Alivio shifters, and Acera cassette on my bike. SRP is around $650 but I got it for around $420 on clearance so that's why I thought the bike you are describing seemed overpriced. I also have Hayes disc brakes and FSA double sealed hubs.
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    Fuji Absolute 3.0

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    Looks closer to a road bike but most drive stuff is mountain type components.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grindr82 View Post
    I am interested in learning more about this hierarchy. I am currently looking at a bike with these specs:

    FD SHIMANO M191, 34.9 CLAMP

    RD SHIMANO ACERA

    CRANK SHIMANO M171 48/38/28

    SHIFTERS SHIMANO ALTUS

    The price point on this bike is $725.....are the components on the same level?
    Really?

    Not worth it at all.
    Last edited by ChowChow; 02-11-12 at 07:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rdrcr View Post
    Fuji Absolute 3.0
    How much did you paid for this bike and what year is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grindr82 View Post
    I am interested in learning more about this hierarchy. I am currently looking at a bike with these specs:

    FD SHIMANO M191, 34.9 CLAMP

    RD SHIMANO ACERA

    CRANK SHIMANO M171 48/38/28

    SHIFTERS SHIMANO ALTUS

    The price point on this bike is $725.....are the components on the same level?
    The only brand that I've seen with low end parts and with high prices is Specialized. All though I did seen one on the Trek line also. I wouldn't spend more than $400 on a bike that has Shimano Altus RD and more than $500 for Shimano Acera RD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rdrcr View Post
    Fuji Absolute 3.0
    Are you sure you have the price right? The website says $589 which is more in line for the components you've listed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsdavis View Post
    Are you sure you have the price right? The website says $589 which is more in line for the components you've listed.

    Performance Bike's has the 2011 model Fuji Absolute 3.0 in stock, for 399.00 dollars by my house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsdavis View Post
    So what am I supposed to take away from that video? Since the video is posted by SRAM, I wouldn't believe that it is unbiased. Click on the link for the user who posted it, and it says SRAM at the top.

    Is the Shimano part moving because it's supposed to?
    Nothing really, I just found the X7 Scram worked, and shifted off road very smooth. It was just a video I seen, maybe your comment is the best. (that Scram made it) LOL

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    Its the 2012 Cannondale Quick CX 4, I didnt want to list them all but its available online at their website......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rdrcr View Post
    Fuji Absolute 3.0
    Those do not match the 2011 model Specs :

    FD SHIMANO M191 31.8mm

    RD SHIMANO ALTUS

    CRANK Fuji Alloy Forged 28/38/48T

    SHIFTERS SHIMANO ACERA

    Performance Bike's by my house, has a white 21" in stock for 399.00 dollars, and several Blacks in different sizes for 449.00 dollars. Why the price difference ? They really could not tell me ethier, but the components were the same. And the bike weighs 26.5 pounds. (Test Rode One Also) Richard

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdgewaterDude View Post
    Good information. I think mixing and matching road and MTB components creates a lot of confusion.
    Confusion to the newbies for sure, but not for the more experienced.

    My hybrid is a mix of LX, SLX, XT, 105 and SRAM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rdrcr View Post
    Where do hybrid bikes fall into in reference to parts? Do they use road or mtb parts usually? I'm asking cause I am about to receive my new bike and will be upgrading parts eventually. thanks
    Seems like lower end hybrids usually use mountain bike components. For instance, Treks bikes use Deore/Altus/Alivio/Tourney on their basic stuff, and the gearing is usually a 48/38/38 triple with a 11-32 cassette.

    The high end stuff usually has some sort of compact double with road gearing (50/34, 53/39) and an 11 or 12/26. Road gearing is a heck of a lot less leisurely, in my opinion.

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    Its the Cannondale Quick CX4 heres the rest of the info from the website:

    Frame
    Quick CX Rigid, Optimized 6061 alloy, SAVE, 1-1/8" head tube

    Fork
    Fatty Rigid Disc

    Crank
    Shimano M171 48/38/28

    Bottom Bracket

    Tange Cartridge

    Shifters
    Shimano Altus

    Cog Set
    Sunrace CSG66 11-32, 8 spd

    Chain
    KMC Z82, 8-speed

    Front Derailleur
    Shimano M191, 34.9 clamp

    Rear Derailleur
    Shimano Acera

    Rims
    Maddux DC3.0, double wall w/eyelet, 32 hole

    Hubs
    Cannondale C4

    Tires
    Continental Double Fighter II, 700x37c

    Pedals
    Quick Reinforced Composite w/ Kraton inserts

    Brake
    Tektro Novela mechanical disc, 160/160 mm

    Handlebar
    Cannondale C4, 6061, 25mm rise, 620mm

    Stem
    Cannondale C4, 1-1/8", 31.8, 12 deg

    Headset
    Tange 1-1/8"

    Spokes
    Stainless Steel XD Black, 15g

    Grips
    Cannondale Urban Ergo

    Saddle
    Cannondale Quick CX Ergo

    Seat Post
    Cannondale C4, alloy, 31.6 x 350 mm

    Shifters
    Shimano Altus

    Is it truly over priced? I get so lost with all of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grindr82 View Post
    Its the Cannondale Quick CX4 heres the rest of the info from the website:

    Frame
    Quick CX Rigid, Optimized 6061 alloy, SAVE, 1-1/8" head tube

    Fork
    Fatty Rigid Disc

    Crank
    Shimano M171 48/38/28

    Bottom Bracket

    Tange Cartridge

    Shifters
    Shimano Altus

    Cog Set
    Sunrace CSG66 11-32, 8 spd

    Chain
    KMC Z82, 8-speed

    Front Derailleur
    Shimano M191, 34.9 clamp

    Rear Derailleur
    Shimano Acera

    Rims
    Maddux DC3.0, double wall w/eyelet, 32 hole

    Hubs
    Cannondale C4

    Tires
    Continental Double Fighter II, 700x37c

    Pedals
    Quick Reinforced Composite w/ Kraton inserts

    Brake
    Tektro Novela mechanical disc, 160/160 mm

    Handlebar
    Cannondale C4, 6061, 25mm rise, 620mm

    Stem
    Cannondale C4, 1-1/8", 31.8, 12 deg

    Headset
    Tange 1-1/8"

    Spokes
    Stainless Steel XD Black, 15g

    Grips
    Cannondale Urban Ergo

    Saddle
    Cannondale Quick CX Ergo

    Seat Post
    Cannondale C4, alloy, 31.6 x 350 mm

    Shifters
    Shimano Altus

    Is it truly over priced? I get so lost with all of this.
    Yes, it's over price IMO. It should not be more than $500 IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xoxoxoxoLive View Post
    This information is for those people who are looking to buy a new bicycle or are wanting to upgrade their old one. Understanding these gradings will give you greater knowledge of what makes a bike the price and style that it is...
    Really great breakdown of all the product lines above. I also wrote this great breakdown of the Shimano and Sram MTB components on my website. sram and shimano mtb component rankings
    The two of these lists should really help you understand what you want to place on your bike.

    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by shwanskee22 View Post
    Really great breakdown of all the product lines. I also found this list with sram and shimano mtb component rankings, the two of these really helped me understand what I want on my bike.

    Thanks!
    Full disclosure time- you wrote that "list" and you also own the site.
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    Ride what and in what manner pleases you. Those that mind don't matter, and those that matter don't mind. srsly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by no1mad View Post
    Full disclosure time- you wrote that "list" and you also own the site.
    It is a list, with plenty of helpful information. I apologize if you don't like the way I shared the link. I have edited the post in order to appease your request. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction and my apologies for going about it the wrong way.

    I hope it helps other people as they look at what components they put on their bike.

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    Hey guys, here are the parts on my recently purchased mtb. Could you please advise if the parts are on the same level. Price point is $1200 CAD. Thanks

    Fork RockShox XC 32 PopLoc
    Stem Ghost light AS-DC1 31.8mm
    Seatpost Ghost light SP DC
    Headset Ghost tapered
    Handlebars Ghost Flat light 31.8mm
    Front Travel 100mm
    Grips/Tape Ghost lock-on
    Brakes Shimano M445 (hydraulic disc)
    Brake Levers Shimano M445 Disc
    Shifters Shimano SLX SL
    Derailleur (Front) Shimano SLX
    Derailleur (Rear) Shimano XT
    Crank + Rings Shimano Deore 42-32-24T
    Bottom Bracket Shimano BB-51 BSA
    Pedals Ghost Flats
    Hub (Front) Shimano Deore
    Hub (Rear) Shimano Deore
    Cassette SRAM PG 1030 10-speed 11-36T
    Spokes DT Industry
    Rims Alex XD Sport
    Tires Schwalbe Rapid Rob 29 x 2.25
    Saddle Ghost 2055

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    This MTB for $375... Good deal?

    http://emcar.mu/docs/product/2014_Centurion-_M6.pdf

    Frame new Backfire Sport EGG
    Fork SR XCT MLO 100
    BB Set cartridge bearing
    B-Lever Alloy lever
    Brake-F V-brake alloy
    Brake-R V-brake alloy
    Chain KMC Z51
    C-Guard attached
    Chainwheel Shimano M131 42-34-24 CG
    DERA-F Shimano M190
    DERA-R Shimano Alivio
    Freewheel Shimano CS-HG30-8 11-32
    Grip Kraton
    H-Bar Rise Alloy 620 Oversize
    H-B Stem Ahead Oversize
    Head Set Ahead OS
    Hub-F Alloy QR
    Hub-R Shimano RM30
    Pedal MTB Alloy
    Rim Centurion Double Alloy
    Saddle Centurion Sport
    Seat Clamp QR Alloy
    Seat Post Alloy 27.2
    Shifter-F Shimano EF51-3s
    Shifter-R Shimano EF51-8s
    Spoke stainless
    Tire-F MTB 26*2.1
    Tire-R MTB 26*2.1
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