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Old 03-21-12, 02:55 PM   #1
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Need some advice: Giant Escape City vs Electra Townie Sport Tiagra vs Electra Verse

Currently I have an old heavy mountain bike with smooth tires since I never go off road. I use a bike for three purposes: errands within a few miles, towing a child in a trailer while on paved bike trail rides with the family, and whenever possible I like to get off on my own and ride about 40 miles at a leisurely pace of 12-15 mph on a combination of paved paths and paved roads. Needless to say, not really enjoying the mountain bike for any of these purposes.

I have about $600 to spend. I'd like to find something that is a step up for all these purposes (shouldn't be that hard). I want something that will eventually have fenders and a rear rack. That led me to the Giant Escape City. I pretty much love everything about it and took it for a test ride today and was impressed. Then, on a whim, I decided to take out a couple other bikes. The first was the Felt Cafe 24 Deluxe. Very nice ride and I think it would be good for two of my three purposes but I was worried that it wouldn't hold up well for a 40 mile ride. Plus I wasn't too thrilled with the shifters and the metal fenders rattled too much for my liking. Then I tried the Electra Townie Sport Tiagra. Honestly, from the second I left the parking lot I had a HUGE smile on my face. I felt like I was a kid again. During long rides on my mountain bike, my shoulders/arms/hands end up in discomfort due to the forward lean setup of my bike so I am not opposed to a more upright riding position. The Townie Sport Tiagra deftly felt good on my arms. To be truthful, it felt good all around and was the most enjoyable ride.

I came home to research bikes and have found very little to no first hand reviews or experiences with the Giant Escape City ($569 fully equipped) or the Electra Townie Sport Tiagra ($599 before the fenders, rack, kickstand etc). I'm really curious as to if anyone has the Electra and if so how do they actually go on and enjoy long rides with it? I'm not an extreme rider by any means but I like to get a good workout in while I can and although I loved everything about it, I am still skeptical about how a "flat foot" technology bike will handle long rides.

On a side note, the Electra Townie Sport series has been replaced by the Electra Verse (24d and 21d). Its supposed to be a new kind of fitness bike. I have not had the chance to ride it yet but hope to tomorrow. It differs slightly from the Escape City and the Townie Sport in the sense that their tires are both 700x32 and the Verse has 700x35. It differs from the Townie Sport as it does not have "Flat Foot Technology." Electra claims it to be a new kind of fitness bike so if I can ride a bit more upright and still get in 40 mile rides it is under consideration.

I can also ride a Jamis Coda Sport tomorrow, too. I know at least one forumite is in love with this bike.

Does anyone have any insight/experience/thoughts on any of these bikes? Or can you share links to people who have? I've been to all the local bike stores over the past two days and have spent countless hours researching online and I just want to enjoy the warm weather by bringing home a bike tomorrow that makes bike riding fun again.

If you have made it through this super long post and can help me out in any way, I really appreciate it!
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Old 03-21-12, 08:59 PM   #2
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My wife loves her women's frame Townie 7 speed. I don't know if Electra gets a lot of respect from some people since their frames are much more "comfort bike" oriented. Even their non-cruiser models still have a cruiser look to them. I've ridden my wife's bike, and it's a real comfortable ride. And the "flat foot technology" took some getting used to for me! If you'd like to get up at some moderate speed I'm not sure if the Electras would be for you, but you should be able to to 15 mph easily.

The Jamis you try out will be more similar to the Giant than either Electra models. It's not just SlimRider that loves the Jamis Coda line. They're pretty well-regarded by a lot of people.

You mention that you'd like to put on fenders and a rear rack. I think that the Electra bikes don't fit most racks, except those that have been modified with longer mounting brackets. You can buy Electra's own special racks (of course), so that's something to keep in mind. Also, if you're planning on putting your bike on any bus racks, the Townies will not fit because of the very long wheel base. They can also be tricky to put onto the standard trunk car bike racks, if you were planning on doing that. The more conventional-framed Giant or Jamis wouldn't give you any problems there.
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Old 03-21-12, 09:55 PM   #3
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Haven't had the pleasure to see a Coda up close and in person, but I have sat astride an Escape and a Townie. The Escape will do everything on your list- and comes stock with the goodies at a lower price than that Electra.

I was in fact contemplating the Electra to replace my hybrid, as my commute is now ~5 miles r/t and is pretty flat, but I'd forgotten that I'd have to opt for their rack or suffer headaches trying to mount one.
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To Bike Forums, Honolulublue!

I can never tire from expressing my undying love for the Jamis Coda bicycle. The Codas are very agile and smooth-riding bicycles. They can turn on a dime and are quite easy to accelerate. You would think that they're heavy because they're made of steel. However, that's not the case! Due to modern-day chromoly steel production and the ingenius Jamis design, the Coda doesn't weigh much more than any of its aluminum competitors and even weighs less than quite a few.

I'll not go any further with the praises. Tomorrow's test-ride should fully explain my Coda enthusiasm!

- Slim

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BTW the Codas are fully prepared to be equipped with both rack and fenders. They come stock with 32mm tires, but will accept up to 38mm wide tires. They are very versatile bicycles, come rain or shine.

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Old 03-21-12, 10:33 PM   #5
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I just brought home the Giant Escape 1 tonight and ordered the Topeak Explorer rack and the Topeak MTX XP bag. Less fenders, which we don't need in Las Vegas, this is pretty much the Escape City. I had this rack and bag on my Defy II. I can't say much except expect to hear my rants after the weekend when I've had time with it.
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Thanks for all the advice. Last night the thought about mounting the Electra on my car rack popped into my head...I plan on doing that a lot so that could be an issue.

I am going to test out the Jamis Coda Sport today. I believe for about the same price as the Giant Escape City I can have it outfitted with a kickstand, fenders and rack so it will come down to the test ride...although I do have to say the vibe at that LBS was kind of like I was bothering them with my pedestrian questions whereas the vibe at the LBS with the Giant was wonderful so that will be the tie breaker if I find both bikes to be fairly equal.

If anyone has any more thoughts this morning, please share...the shops don't open for a couple more hours
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Thanks for all the advice. Last night the thought about mounting the Electra on my car rack popped into my head...I plan on doing that a lot so that could be an issue.

I am going to test out the Jamis Coda Sport today. I believe for about the same price as the Giant Escape City I can have it outfitted with a kickstand, fenders and rack so it will come down to the test ride...although I do have to say the vibe at that LBS was kind of like I was bothering them with my pedestrian questions whereas the vibe at the LBS with the Giant was wonderful so that will be the tie breaker if I find both bikes to be fairly equal.

If anyone has any more thoughts this morning, please share...the shops don't open for a couple more hours
If that's the way that you felt about your experience, I would suggest that you call that very same LBS, in advance and ask to speak with the manager. Honestly and respectfully, express your feelings about your last visit to the manager. Then tell the manager that you may be visiting them sometime soon in the future, without announcing a specific time. Don't give the LBS your name, unless things go well and you want to purchase the Coda.

Then suddenly, show up today for your test ride!

If you are not warmly and respectfully received, with serious concern about your questions, then I would contact Jamis Headquarters at the following number:

(201) 768-9050

Tell Jamis Headquarters about your experience. If things don't go well with their second opportunity to please you, then just give them a call.

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Old 03-22-12, 09:43 AM   #8
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I will definitely be calling Jamis headquarters. Went to test ride the Coda Sport this morning but left after 20 minutes without even an acknowledgement by the guy (think he the owner/operator) that I had entered the store. He was with another customer but you'd think if a guy who had come in yesterday poking around and asking questions came in the very next day you might be able to squeak out a simple "Back again, huh? Great. I'll be with you after I take care of this gentleman." Nope. He was too busy berating the older gentleman he was "helping." Pretty much talking down to him and just being an ass in the same way he was with me yesterday. Not really being helpful, giving answers to questions like "well I could guess at that for you but otherwise I'd have to look it up." At one point, the older guy asked a question trying to figure out which type of brakes he should put on his bike and the guy who worked there angrily cut him off and said in a nasty tone "how about you just ask me questions that I can answer 'yes' or 'no' to from now on?" Combined with the experience I had the day before I not only didn't want to ever have to come back to his shop for future tuneups or service, I didn't even want to give the guy any business at all so I left. Wish I could have test rode the Coda Sport but it just wasn't meant to be. Going back to the shop that had awesome people working at it to test ride an Electra Verse but probably going with the Giant Escape City.
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Jeebus, what a jerk. It's a shame that some bike shop owners seem to want to go into business so they can feel superior to their customers.

Just chalk it up to there being a-holes in all walks of life, and give the good guys your money.
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Exactly. Rode the Electra Verse. Nice ride but not quite the smile producer that the Townie Sport was. Still, skeptical about doing 50 miles on a Townie Sport so went with the Giant Escape City. Thanks for all the input!
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Congrats! Most LBSes will give you some sort of deal on tune-ups or other maintenance if you buy a bike from them--did you talk to them about that?

And any chance of seeing your new ride?
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This shop gives a free tuneup within a couple months a account for new parts settling and cables stretching and will adjust shifters and brakes for life. Sounded good to me.



That handsome guy is not me.
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Great deal, it looks awesome!
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Great choice, given the LBS experience you had! The escape is a popular model at the shop I like to frequent, they sell pretty quick. If I had to buy a new bike right now, that would be the one I would choose.
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This shop gives a free tuneup within a couple months a account for new parts settling and cables stretching and will adjust shifters and brakes for life. Sounded good to me.



That handsome guy is not me.
Looks VERY much like the one I brought home yesterday but mine doesn't have fenders and the rack won't be on until Monday.
And I got my REI dividend today too. How convenient.
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I got so disappointed by our REI divident. My wife bought her bike there last year, but it was right before a bike sale. We asked them for a price adjustment, and they gave is the difference from the cost we paid at first versus what it would have been during the sale. But since we did that, the sale price wasn't subject to the divident, so when I was expecting a nice-sized divident, we ended up with 9 bucks instead. D'oh...
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Yep. REI doesn't dividend sale items and REI has gotten mighty proud of their stuff but it has still been my favorite store since the 70's. I've spent tens of thousands there over the years. I just finished my Saturday shopping list in fact. I thought it was great that I bough a new bike yesterday, got the dividend today and start vacation next week. How convenient.
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Got their coupon for 20% off regular items, but only applies to Novara bikes.
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I'm definitely new. The last bike I owned was an old Huffy before I turned 16 and got a pick up truck. Just bought a Giant Escape City today after 16 years of being bike-less. I really liked the ride home, which was not quite 3 miles. It has been too long and now going to have to get into bike shape. Very smooth and light weight bike, I'll have to figured out how best to carry my school stuff, but I am glad I live in a city as bike friendly as Portland.
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