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Old 03-24-12, 07:16 PM   #1
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Fastest Hybrid?

Obviously, this is a misleading question. Whether or not a bike is fast is hugely dependent upon the fitness and experience of the rider, however, from a objective technical viewpoint, i.e. the quality of construction materials as well as the weight of the bike, what are some hybrids that could be considered "fast"? I love my Trek 8.3 ds, but I'm wondering if there is any other hybrid out there that might be a bit quicker on the road?
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Old 03-24-12, 07:19 PM   #2
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I think the Trek FX 7.5 is a fast bike for a hybrid.
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Old 03-24-12, 07:30 PM   #3
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I think the Trek FX 7.5 is a fast bike for a hybrid.
I noticed on the Trek site that the FX series seems to be geared more to roads. Would they be able to handle the occasional trail?
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IMHO you've got five major contenders:

1) The Trek 7.7FX

2) The Raleigh Cadent FT3

3) The Giant Rapid 1

4) The Jamis Allegro Elite

5) The Specialized Sirrus Pro

I'll take the Raleigh Cadent Ft3
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IMHO you've got five major contenders:

1) The Trek 7.7FX

2) The Raleigh Cadent FT3

3) The Giant Rapid 1

4) The Jamis Allegro Elite

5) The Specialized Sirrus Pro

I'll take the Raleigh Cadent Ft3
OP: These bikes are not ordered in any hierarchical order. They are all very high end, fast hybrids.
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Old 03-24-12, 08:06 PM   #6
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Great! Thanks for the suggestions!
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what about moto cafe carbons?
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Top speed is not really a function of weight unless you're riding a tank; that's more important in acceleration and climbing. With a 52/11 ratio - 5 gear-inches bigger than any in the list above - my '04 Jamis Coda would probably be as fast as any hybrid on the road; that ratio is good for 37.5mph @ 100rpm's. If I could pull it, which I have a couple of times, wind-aided in an all-out sprint. To emphasize the ridiculousness of that gearing, the current Codas only use 48t big rings. 50/12 is the current norm.
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A bikes quickness is what I consider fast.

To me, it's the responsiveness as you start to peddle and how quick the bike is to get you moving that I consider being fast.

I consider my Diamondback hybrid to be fast and it's 48/11 ratio, but I rarely stay in the high range very long unless I'm going downhill or have a wind at my back.
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Matter of physics.
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A bikes quickness is what I consider fast.

To me, it's the responsiveness as you start to peddle and how quick the bike is to get you moving that I consider being fast.

I consider my Diamondback hybrid to be fast and it's 48/11 ratio, but I rarely stay in the high range very long unless I'm going downhill or have a wind at my back.
Truth. Realistically, any decent hybrid is probably geared for conditions which would require a pro to actually exploit. Throwing a pair of stupid-expensive, stupid-light wheels on it would probably make the biggest difference.
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Probably the ones with the shortest head tubes that place the bars lower and rider in the most aerodynamic position (i.e., a true flat-bar road bike). The 2010 Fuji Absolute fits this description but I don't know if there are any of these left. Most people buy hybrids for a more comfortable/relaxed position compared to a road racing bike.

Generally speaking, if the stock manufacturer's photo shows the bars level with the seat it's probably designed to be fast. Gearing doesn't really matter IMO as long as there's a double or triple crank.

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My seat is set about 4" above the bars. I used to own a Jamis Quest with a slightly larger frame and lower seat; I wasn't a whole lot lower in the drops than I am on the Coda.

If I had to choose one from SlimRider's list based simply on "go fast," it'd probably be the Sirrus Pro. It's the most "roadie" of the bunch - thinnest tires, nice road-oriented cockpit and I suspect it's the lightest of the bunch. Not that I'd go there - it ain't steel - but it sure looks sexy and I bet I'd be pretty fast on it. Until my back started whining.
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Has to be this one http://www.orbea.com/us-us/bicis/mod.../#presentacion
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I think this one is pretty fast!!

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I think this one is pretty fast!!

For erections lasting over 4 hours, please consult a doctor. That even takes the Orbea off my mind, which I thought would never happen.

What is the fork? I'm in the market for a carbon disc-only fork.
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Narrower bars will keep your arms close to your body. That's why road bikes have drop bars. Drop bars also allow you to ride more hunched over which is also more aero. Road bikes have narrower wheels and probably most people use lighter tires. Hybrids often have wheels/tires designed for smoother rides and no flats.

Why not keep the DS and purchase a real road bike?
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Why not keep the DS and purchase a real road bike?
I really like the freedom that a hybrid offers me. I just don't think I would ever take enough "road-only" rides to warrant the purchase. Most of my rides, given where I live, are a combination of road-off road.
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Dude, you're crazy!
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For erections lasting over 4 hours, please consult a doctor. That even takes the Orbea off my mind, which I thought would never happen.

What is the fork? I'm in the market for a carbon disc-only fork.
I bought the fork as a one off item from BikeWagon, it's a CX carbon disc fork and I've not ever seen another for sale anywhere but have seen them standard fitment on bikes.
This bike is built up from scratch, I wanted a super fast light weight flat bar road bike but also wanted a tough offroader after a change of tires. Its certainly one of a kind borrowing components from all cycling disciplines and some tricky mod's to make it all fit together.
After all this I could have got a similar result buying a CX bike however the up front cost for the higher end model I would have liked would have been huge and it wouldn't be as unique or tough.
Having said all that, ElGuao maybe a CX bike is what you've needed all along then change things as you want during ownership like handlebars and tires "a flat bar CX bike sounds unique"
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I actually found the fork since that post, but it appears to be unavailable in the US. It's not disc-only, anyway, and if I'm gonna drop three times the original cost of my bike onto the frame, I don't want canti bosses messing up the aesthetics.

If only I had a contact at Kinesis....I want a DC39 fork so bad I can taste it.
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Jbc's bike would be the fastest hybrid ... if it had an aerobar
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Jbc's bike would be the fastest hybrid ... if it had an aerobar
Adelaar you convinced me to get one a long while ago but I fitted it to a road bike. On certain rides it's great on other rides my hands are to far from the brake for safety. There nice to have though.
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