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    Question What size Jamis Coda Sport? 17 or 19?

    What size Jamis Coda should I get? I'm 5'8" and I wear a 30" inseam pants and they still have to be cuffed.

    I was sure I needed a 17 and the bike shop told me they think I'd be a 19. I'm picking it up on Saturday, this is my first real bike, just don't want to get something I'm going to be upset about later.

    The stand over on the 17 seems better to me, but I'm not sure what else I'm supposed to be judging by.

    The shop is holding both sizes just in case.

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    If the LBS is holding both sizes, I'm assuming they have or will build both of them up in anticipation of making a sure sale. Take both for a spin, get the one that feels better to you.

    As far as what to look for other than the stand over height goes, just make sure that you have proper leg extension while pedalling and the reach to the handlebar controls is comfortable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikexln View Post
    What size Jamis Coda should I get? I'm 5'8" and I wear a 30" inseam pants and they still have to be cuffed.

    I was sure I needed a 17 and the bike shop told me they think I'd be a 19. I'm picking it up on Saturday, this is my first real bike, just don't want to get something I'm going to be upset about later.

    The stand over on the 17 seems better to me, but I'm not sure what else I'm supposed to be judging by.

    The shop is holding both sizes just in case.
    The people at the shop should help you decide. But they don't seem to be familiar with this bike. According the the Jamis web site, http://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/thebik...sport_geo.html, the 19" model has a 31" standover. You are going to end up a soprano! The bike appears to have a sloping top tube and it's not clear where they are measuring the standover. Usually it's the midpoint of the top tube. You should have at least one inch between the top tube and your anatomy. Unless that top tube is at a really steep slope, the 17" will probably be the proper size. The LBS will usually swap out stem and adjust front/back positioning of the seat to give you a reach that is comfortable. Good luck with the fitting. I hope you get the red; it's a nice looking color!
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    Get the 19" frame. I am 5'9" and wear a 30" pant inseam. I owned a 19" Jamis Coda and, if anything, wanted it to be a little bigger (not smaller.) Sounds like you're about an inch shorter than me in height and inseam so it should be perfect for you.
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    I'm 5'9" and wear a 30" inseam, which is still about 1/4" too long for me. I had a Trek 7.3 in the 17" size and it felt great. I replaced it with a Jamis Coda Sport 2011 (with carbon fork) and assumed I needed a 17", but the LBS convinced me to buy a 19". I have no problem with clearance when straddling the top tube. I think the standover height is different for the 2011 models, but it shows 30.55" on this year and model vs. 30.9" for the aluminum fork bikes. Jamis switched the model names in 2012.
    Confused?? I would recommend the 17" if it feels right to you and the stem and seatpost aren't excessively extended. Make sure you know what their return policies are, especially if you go with the 19".
    Just read Dunbar's post--it's a very personal thing. We have the same measurements and I wanted my 19" to be just a little smaller.
    A very good bike! Enjoy.

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    Preferred trouser inseam measurement isn't a very accurate way to measure how long your legs really are. Better to stand over both bikes and lift to see if you have enough clearance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NormDeplume View Post
    Preferred trouser inseam measurement isn't a very accurate way to measure how long your legs really are. Better to stand over both bikes and lift to see if you have enough clearance.
    Yes, you're right, but it does get you in the ballpark.

    My test for a correct standover height is if I dismount over the nose of the saddle and emit a very high-pitched scream and my legs don't reach the ground, the standover height is not sufficient. If I dismount over the nose, can't reach the water bottle at all or let go of the handlebar, and the bike falls sideways to the ground hitting the inside of my knees, the standover height is too much

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    You are right between a 17 and a 19 inch frame. If I was you, I'll go for the 17. I'm 5'10 and have a 19 inch frame. I think a 19 inch frame is better for riders 5'9-5'11.

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    I ride a "21 inch" 2012 Jamis Coda Sport and I'm 6 ft. tall with a 31.5 inch inseam and it still give me almost a couple of inches of top tube clearance when flat footed on the ground. I use a 19 inch Jamis Allegro 1 (2011) for my "dual sport" machine (many component changes) as they usually like to have a bit more "clearance" when riding on dirt, FYI.
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    Another very important thing to consider is the reach to the handlebars. Ride both of them and see which one is more comfortable. I'm 5'9", with longish arms/torso, and I ride a 19" Giant frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teicher View Post
    Another very important thing to consider is the reach to the handlebars. Ride both of them and see which one is more comfortable. I'm 5'9", with longish arms/torso, and I ride a 19" Giant frame.
    Good point. Every one has different proportions. Apparently, mine are slightly odd. The LBS tried to sell me a Giant Escape City (L) based upon the stand over, but I felt too stretched out towards the bars.
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    I'm 5'-7" with the same 30" inseam - I'm a little long-legged for my size, I think, and spin a 170mm crankset comfortably. My Coda Comp was called '17.5"' when I bought it, but the geometry is identical to a 2012 Coda Sport 17". The effective TT of a 19" is only 10mm longer than the 17", and actually has a shorter wheelbase than the 17" because that's the size at which they increase the headtube angle. Both the 17" and 19" use the same stem length (shorter than mine) so you're not going to really get much more reach out of the bigger bike.

    I think with your shorter legs you'll be more comfortable with the 17". The 17" uses a 170mm crank, and the 19" uses a 175mm. I think you might find that a bit long for your legs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjjoondo View Post
    I ride a "21 inch" 2012 Jamis Coda Sport and I'm 6 ft. tall with a 31.5 inch inseam and it still give me almost a couple of inches of top tube clearance when flat footed on the ground. I use a 19 inch Jamis Allegro 1 (2011) for my "dual sport" machine (many component changes) as they usually like to have a bit more "clearance" when riding on dirt, FYI.
    This starts to worry me, I'm about your same dimensions (6' tall, 31" inseam) and I just put an order in on a 19" Coda Comp. None of the Jamis dealers have 21" in anything at the moment to try out and I'm worried about impending buyers remorse about choosing a 19" over a 21".

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    Quote Originally Posted by kerblum View Post
    This starts to worry me, I'm about your same dimensions (6' tall, 31" inseam) and I just put an order in on a 19" Coda Comp. None of the Jamis dealers have 21" in anything at the moment to try out and I'm worried about impending buyers remorse about choosing a 19" over a 21".
    Maybe you could cancel the order or tell them to exchange it to a 21". For your size, I wouldn't go any lower than a 20". A 19" might feel a bit cramp, but it might be doable. But then again, I wouldn't purchase it.

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    It'll be hard to compare a 19" to nothing, but the more I look at the measurements of the other bikes I've ridden (Large Specialized Sirrius Sport and Large Giant Escape 2), my brain may trick me into placing a second order of a 21". The shop doesn't have anything near a 21" size in stock to even try. The order is already in, having to wait for the bike to show up, ride it then if I'm not happy with the 19" place an order for the 21".
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    Quote Originally Posted by teicher View Post
    Another very important thing to consider is the reach to the handlebars. Ride both of them and see which one is more comfortable. I'm 5'9", with longish arms/torso, and I ride a 19" Giant frame.
    Yes! When I buying a hybrid a few years back, I found that my best fit varied from brand to brand. On a Specialized it was 17", on Trek it was 17.5" and on Fuji it was 19". The Fuji 17" was too cramped in the reach / "cockpit." I did test ride two Jamis bikes, but cannot remember which size fit me best.

    Definitely do not decide based solely upon standover height.
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    cool thanks for all the replies guys. the store was kind of pushing a 19 on me even though i felt better about 17. i'm still a novice so i didn't want to argue with them if the 19 was a more proper fit, but i feel confident about the 17 now.

    Yeah, they were supposed to hold both, but I guess the owner decided that I was a 19 before I even showed up and sold the 17. He wasn't there when I went, but another guy working was. I'm glad he was because he assured me I'm a 17" all day long and was really knowledgeable. I trust a guy with 7 bikes that is car free, lol.

    I'm not too upset, because it was pouring rain on my day off anyway (not sure if anyone saw the weather in the midwest this weekend lol), but I get my new 17" on Friday this week and the weather report looks good!

    ps. totally got black.

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    Sounds like the first guy was a jerk. I don't blame them for selling the 17" if they had a buyer; it's a tough business. Congrats on being patient and seeking advice. You won't ride a bike that doesn't fit. You owe us a pic and a ride report when you get the bike. Congrats!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kerblum View Post
    This starts to worry me, I'm about your same dimensions (6' tall, 31" inseam) and I just put an order in on a 19" Coda Comp. None of the Jamis dealers have 21" in anything at the moment to try out and I'm worried about impending buyers remorse about choosing a 19" over a 21".
    Humm, I'll be honest and say I don't notice a LOT of difference in the "feeling" of my 19" Allegro 1 and my 21 inch Coda Sport. Just that the "seat post" is higher on the 19 inch for "proper leg setting". The ride feels close and the 19 inch. frame doesn't seem to "cramp" me any. The Coda Sport seems smoother on pavement but I put that to "steel vrs. aluminum". Although there may be a feeling of a very tiny bit of more "stretch" on the 21 inch over the 19 inch but it's nothing that bothers me. FYI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a1penguin View Post
    Sounds like the first guy was a jerk. I don't blame them for selling the 17" if they had a buyer; it's a tough business. Congrats on being patient and seeking advice. You won't ride a bike that doesn't fit. You owe us a pic and a ride report when you get the bike. Congrats!
    Yeah, except I already paid for it over the phone and my account was already charged ><

    Pics for sure!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikexln View Post
    cool thanks for all the replies guys. the store was kind of pushing a 19 on me even though i felt better about 17.
    I had the same experience with another shop where the salesperson and I both knew a 17 was too small, when I asked if they had a 19 in their warehouse, the manager tried to convince me to take the 17. Tried to convince me that I didn't want to smash myself on the top tube if I had to bail was the most important reason to take the size, even though the manager never saw me on the frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kerblum View Post
    I had the same experience with another shop where the salesperson and I both knew a 17 was too small, when I asked if they had a 19 in their warehouse, the manager tried to convince me to take the 17.
    Pretty much my experience as well, after being sold a bike that's too small I no longer trust shop salespeople. You just don't know if they're trying to sell you whatever size they have in stock. Fortunately after that experience I figured out on my own what frame sizes fit me.

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    I picked up my 19 Coda Comp yesterday. I think the stand over height is about right for me (though I never did get to try a 21) but feel like this is close enough. I love it so far but does anyone have suggestions on fine tuning the fitting? has anyone lowered the stem? Does that bunch you up or stretch you out? I rode to work today (about 7miles) and maybe it was just because I'm a newbie and not used to riding but I did have a point where I felt a little bunched up, and at times feel like my shoulders are a little high. Are there any suggestions on fine tuning the fitting?

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    got it!!!!

    Went back to the shop today to pick up the bike! They more than made up for selling it. Knocked 40 bucks off the price, gave me a free $30 sigma 1000g odometer/speedo and a free water bottle cage! I'll take that trade any day!

    All being said I felt so much more at home on the 17". Took it out for a 7.5 mile ride, my first time being on a bike in easily 12 years.





    What pump is everyone using? I'm not a fan of buying things twice so I'd like to get a good one the first time.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=ATVPDKIKX0DER

    This is the one I'm looking at right now though. Also figured out I don't have anywhere to put my keys, garage door opener and cell phone while I ride so I added a triangle frame bag to the cart too. Where I ride is a 25 mile trail that goes all over and connects to more 20 mile trails, etc, quickly found out I need a bell or something so I don't have to keep yelling I'm passing when I ride by walkers in the middle of the path. Got a water bottle in my amazon basket too.

    Thinking about a frame pump, but not too sure if I really need it.

    Anything else I'm missing? Might as well throw it in the basket now.

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    That's a great looking bike! Congrats. Sounds like you did right by your LBS.

    You need a helmet. All helmets sold need to be certified, so any helmet will do.

    Go ride. You'll figure out what you need to add as you go.

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