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Old 07-03-12, 11:23 AM   #1
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Need Help Choosing a Cannodale Hybrid/Urban (Bad Boy 9, Quick 4, Quick CX4)

I'm looking for my first real bike, a step up from a department store bike. My riding will be for recreation and fitness. It will be a combination of road and light trails (dirt, maybe gravel) but I'd say 70% road and 30% light trail. Based on my research to date, it seems going with a rigid fork is best. Most people feel that in the lower price range, it isn't worth the extra weight to go with a front suspension, especially for the cheap fork components you'll get in that price range. I get serious discounts on Cannondale at my job, so based on my price range and what I can get the bike for after discounts, i've narrowed it down to three models. The Bad Boy 9, Quick 4, and Quick CX4. I really don't know much about the quality of the components and need some help. I really like the look of the Bad Boy 9 the best, but of course that's no reason to buy it. It doesn't come with true hybrid tires but some folks seem to thank for light trails it will still be fine. The CX4 seems to be very similar, but has hybrid tires. Finally the Quick 4 (and the one I can get for the cheapest) seems like a nice bike since it has a carbon fork, but it doesn't have disc brakes. Not sure if they are necessary though and again i'm not sure how to rate the bikes against each other based on the other components. Unfortunately (or fortunately), I've got to stick with these models based on my budget and I can only get discounts on Cannondale. Any help is greatly appreciated!

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Welcome To Bike Forums, AJM!

The Cannondale Quick 4 is currently selling for $630 at REI.

I personally like the Bad Boy 9, myself! They are all 8 speeds and will not be any major contenders for speed, but they're all fast for hybrids. The CX 4 will be great for winter roads and dirt trail riding. It does not promise to be as fast as either the Bad Boy 9 or the Quick 4. Both the CX 4 and the Bad Boy 9 come with disc brakes. Disc brakes aren't really needed unless you live in an area that experiences frequent rain and you're forced to ride on inclining wet surfaces.


The Bad Boy 9 loves paved roads and hard packed dirt trails. It will not fare well with loose gravel. OTOH, the Cannondale Quick 4 will handle loose gravel better, but will long for harder and smoother surfaces. IMHO either the Bad Boy 9 or the Quick 4 should be the only candidates under your current consideration.


Now just test ride them both and make your final determination, based upon your level of comfort and fun!
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Thanks for the advice! I think the only reason I was considering the CX4 was that it was a bit cheaper than the Bad Boy. Does the Bad Boy have better components that warrant the extra cost? (not that it matters, I'd still pay more for the way it looks!) I guess since you can post prices here, I'll let you know how much I'm getting them for. I can get the Bad Boy 9 for $399 or the Quick 4 for $329. If I really don't need disc brakes, I'm leaning towards the Quick 4 as I'm gaining the lighter carbon fork and saving $70. Thoughts?
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Thanks for the advice! I think the only reason I was considering the CX4 was that it was a bit cheaper than the Bad Boy. Does the Bad Boy have better components that warrant the extra cost? (not that it matters, I'd still pay more for the way it looks!) I guess since you can post prices here, I'll let you know how much I'm getting them for. I can get the Bad Boy 9 for $399 or the Quick 4 for $329. If I really don't need disc brakes, I'm leaning towards the Quick 4 as I'm gaining the lighter carbon fork and saving $70. Thoughts?
The only main difference between the Quick 4 and the Bad Boy 9 are the disc brakes on the Bad Boy. The Quick 4 has carbon fiber fork blades, but regardless as to whether you decide to go with the Quick 4 or the Bad Boy. Just make your decision based upon the right reason.

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Comfort and joy trumps disc brakes on the Bad Boy!

Test ride both bikes! Saving $70 is not enough to sacrifice comfort....
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If you can afford any of the three, then test ride all of them. Disc brakes make more sense if you ride in the snow or hills when it's wet out, otherwise they are just a personal preference item. You didn't disclose your location, but if you any inkling that you may end up riding in the snow/ice someday, you'll want something that can handle wider tires.
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Old 07-03-12, 02:55 PM   #6
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Thanks for the tips everyone. I'll test all 3 and let you know what I pick! FYI I'm in NJ, no plans to ride on snow/ice
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Old 07-03-12, 06:15 PM   #7
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Great prices you're getting on them!
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How lucky you are to be stuck with one of these models at such phenomenal prices! I admit to being partial to Cannondale's hybrids, because after my own extensive search last year I found that I much preferred the Cannondale hybrid ride. I tried Trek, Specialized, Giant, Jamis, Bianchi, and a few others as well, and for me, the Quick series had the best combination of smoothness and agility. I'm not particularly brand loyal - I also have a Trek and a Specialized in other bikes. I chose the Quick 3, because I wanted a hybrid that was more like a flat bar road bike. I like to do rail trails and paths, so I've ended up using this bike on gravel and dirt instead of my road bike. For me it's fine, as I prefer the lighter weight of it to my heavier bike with wider tires. The 4 would probably be better for you. You don't need front suspension, it'll only add weight and slow you down on pavement. Nor disc brakes. The carbon fork, however, is really nice. The components, though not high end, work fine with no issues. I agree, ride all three bikes and see which one you enjoy the most.

Some things to keep in mind when trying the Quick series - most people dislike the saddle. It's an easy switch. Also, the riding position is rather upright. You can have it set up in a bit more aggressive riding position when your fitted.
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These are all great bikes. I agree with Slim: the CX 4 will be best choice for trails as it has 37mm tires and a more rugged mountain type frame. The other two bikes are more similar. 28mm and perhaps 32 tires are quite narrow and will be best on pavement and smooth, packed dirt. If you want to ride on trails, the CX 4 might be the better choice. I don't know how narrow a tire the rim will accept. But slick tires have lower rolling resistance than knobs.
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So my wife and I test rode some of the bikes. I forgot to mention, she is buying one as well. I ruled out the Bad Boy because I wanted slightly wider tires than it came with (and tires with some additional tread for light trails) and because of the budget, I wouldn't be able to immediately purchase wider ones. We both rode the quick 4 and loved it. We were both able to get a comfortable fit, they rode fast, and I did feel a difference between the carbon fork Quick 4 and the non-carbon Quick 5 in smoothing out some of the road vibrations. I also rode the CX4 but it was noticeably heavier and I didn't feel that much of a difference with it's slightly wider tires going over rough surfaces. I placed orders for the Quick 4's today. Thanks for everyone's advice.
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Good choice. Yep, that's why everyone says go test ride. You owe us pics when you get the bikes! You're both going to have a lot of fun riding!
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I'll definitely post pics. Any advice on a good trunk rack? I have a 2006 Civic 2 door and a 2011 Acura TSX, neither have a roof rack and I'd rather use the Civic to transport because I know the trunk racks can cause minor stratching to the car. I'm not so worried about the Civic.
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Saris Bone series racks seem to be nice units and very adjustable http://www.saris.com/index.php?page=...mart&Itemid=57 FYI.
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Yay! Good choice. You will really enjoy riding these bikes. I like the Saris Bones too, fits most vehicles and I can mount it and have my bike on in minutes. One thing though, depending on the bikes you're carrying the two bike version can be tight to fit both bikes comfortably. I can fit a road bike and hybrid, two road bikes, two hybrids, but my daughter's mountain bike and my hybrid are very hard to fit on together. Thinking of getting the three bike carrier just to have more room between the bikes.
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That's a good tip I didn't think about that. Do you think the two bike will be fine for two Quick 4's? Also, since the Quick 4 has a slightly sloping top tube, will it be ok or should I purchase the tube adapters?
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The top tube will still work with a trunk rack. The bikes won't be level (rear wheel will be up higher) so it may be harder to see out of your rearview mirror, but you won't need the top tube adapters.
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I'm in the same boat for a bike. I almost pulled the trigger on a Novara Buzz Big today at REI. $799. I test road the Bad Boy 9 and the brakes sucked. The Buzz Big felt good and fast. I didnt test ride the Marin Muirwoods but it was considerably heavier.

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You won't need the adapters, the Quicks fit on fine. Prolly the two bike rack will be good, as these bikes are not as big and bulky as mountain bikes. But had I the chance to do it over, I'd buy the 3 bike rack.

Don't be afraid of the plastic when you get your Saris, they are quite durable. I have a bad habit of leaving mine on my car all the time, so it travels a whole lot more than it really needs to. Always stays in place, ready to go (not necessarily good for the paint, lol).
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Officially ordered the bikes yesterday. Should have them by next week. I was able to track down a barely used Saris Bones 3 bike rack for $50....will be picking it up today. Thanks for the help everyone!
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