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Old 07-16-12, 11:58 AM   #1
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Hope I made the right decision

New guy just started riding again been 20 years since old school BMX days. Anyway I hope I made the right decision I bought a Trek 7.2 FX at the closest LBS. The person I was working with was nice but didn’t really explain a lot. I also rode a Cannondale Quick 4 but it was the wrong size for me. I really liked the Quick better but it was $130 more and the bike shop guy said it wasn’t worth the extra money. I ride on concrete roads/ concrete park bike path 100 % of the time.
Anyway I got the Trek home and went out on a 20 mile ride, I was amazed how much better it was than my (Huffy mountain bike from Academy sports and outdoors) but my hands drove me crazy going numb. Same thing with my big box store bike only a week old. So I went back on Sunday the day after I bought the Trek, this time I worked with a new sales rep. He was very cool and told me that maybe the geometry of the Trek was just not a good fit for me. Long story short I rode the Cannondale again but needed the XL Quick 4. They were out of stock and said they couldn’t get anymore since the 13’s are coming out. I ended up ordering the 2013 red and black Quick 4 I hope I made the right decision.
Since I am a total newb wanted to ask ya’ll, any upgrades I need to look at soon? I know nothing of brands or levels of upgrades from one # to the next? Thanks in advance
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Not so much an upgrade as preventative medicine- Ergon grips. If you are suffering from numb hands while riding, Ergons go a loooooong way in preventing that. Then you also want to take a look at your posture while riding. If it's too aggressive, with the saddle higher than the bars, you are putting too much pressure on your hands (which the Ergons can help). You might have also needed a shorter stem on that Trek.

Out of curiousity, even though you took the Trek back and the sales guy admitted it "might be the wrong geometry" for you, are they allowing you to exchange the Trek for that '13 'Dale? Or are you buying it outright and stuck with the Trek?
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They took it back and applied the full paid price to the new bike. The new “Dale” price for the 2012 would have been $130 more but they had a $40 price increase on the 2013 model. He did take the time to show me his screen and that is was a legit price increase not just a way to tag me for bringing the bike back.
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Yeah, there's been an across the board increase in prices for the last few years now
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I'm surprised that the first guy didn't tell you that they could order the right size for you. It's a good thing you went back and got a competent person. I think you made a great decision, and will be very happy with your new bike.

For the numbness, chances are you're putting too much weight on your hands. As your core builds up for cycling, these are the muscles you want to use to hold you up. Get some good cycling gloves, and make sure your arms aren't locked but have a slight bend. Lighten up the weight on your hands by using your core muscles to support yourself. You should be able to get rid of the numbness in a very short time.

The bike itself doesn't need any upgrades unless you choose to. But the first thing you may want to change is the saddle, unless Cannondale made a significant improvement on the 2013 model. The older saddle wasn't bad, just pretty hard and had to be set just right for any kind of comfort. The stock grips are ergo and very comfortable. I'm able to use mine in a way that I can get various hand positions, which helps alleviate any numbness. A good wireless cyclocomputer can add a lot to your workouts or excursions.
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Wow thanks for all the great advice I’m sure I have lots of bad habits while riding I will try to work on keeping my arms bent and avoiding locking them I do tend lock my arms until I think about it or feel the effects of doing so. I plan to get some cycling gloves but have to wait a little bit I kind of went over on my budget getting the higher priced bike. But would rather get the right one then suffer with the wrong one. For now only accessories I will be able to swing will be a kick stand and bottle holder.
The LBS called last night; somehow they got a 2013 in my size and said I could pick it up anytime. I hope to be able to pick it up tonight.
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You may not be able to fit a kick stand on that frame, we couldn't get one on my Quick 3. Not without risking damage, anyway...

Good luck on the bike! Let us know how it goes.
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Starting to get mad now, picked up my new bike at lunch and just walked it into the basement of the building i work in. About an hour later the front tire was flat, so after work took it back to the LBS. They were very nice and replaced the tube and i was out of there in less than 15min. I live 40 min away from the LBS pulled the bike out of my truck and the tire was low again. At this point i still had never even rode the bike yet, so i pumped up the tire and went around the block. Started talking to my neighbor and he wanted to test ride around the block. By the time he got back the tire was not flat but getting softer around 40psi when tested. Wondering if the wheel might be bad? Or if the rubber ring inside the rim might have a spoke sticking through or something. Went to call the LBS back but they closed at 6. Well not sure i will have time to swing by again tomorrow may have to wait till the weekend now. Just chaps my tail end spending close to $700 and have this happen. My crappy Wally world bike was and still is able to be used??? Anyone ever hear of something like this?
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Starting to get mad now, picked up my new bike at lunch and just walked it into the basement of the building i work in. About an hour later the front tire was flat, so after work took it back to the LBS. They were very nice and replaced the tube and i was out of there in less than 15min. I live 40 min away from the LBS pulled the bike out of my truck and the tire was low again. At this point i still had never even rode the bike yet, so i pumped up the tire and went around the block. Started talking to my neighbor and he wanted to test ride around the block. By the time he got back the tire was not flat but getting softer around 40psi when tested. Wondering if the wheel might be bad? Or if the rubber ring inside the rim might have a spoke sticking through or something. Went to call the LBS back but they closed at 6. Well not sure i will have time to swing by again tomorrow may have to wait till the weekend now. Just chaps my tail end spending close to $700 and have this happen. My crappy Wally world bike was and still is able to be used??? Anyone ever hear of something like this?
You wally world bike has 8 pound tires with jeep rubber on them. Your real bike is going to have flats. Maybe not this quick but it's going to have flats.
Get on the web and read how to change tubes and how to inspect your wheel. No you don't want to do this the first day but you just may have a dingle-berry in the rim that needs smoothing out. Can happen.
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You wally world bike has 8 pound tires with jeep rubber on them. Your real bike is going to have flats. Maybe not this quick but it's going to have flats.
Get on the web and read how to change tubes and how to inspect your wheel. No you don't want to do this the first day but you just may have a dingle-berry in the rim that needs smoothing out. Can happen.
Yep! Nothing serious to worry about. Just learn how to fix a flat and replace a tire really soon. Get a both a floor and frame pump, along with a nice pair of gloves for your hands.

Don't lock that bike up with anything resembling a cable lock! Only use quality U locks like OnGuard and Kryptonite's New York Fahgettaboudit...

Good Luck!
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You might look into two things:
1. Tires with some kind of "Flat Protection System", Kevlar, double rubber layer, thick plastic inner layer.
2. I highly recommend a tire sealant called: True Goo, it's the BEST I've found so far as it works and it WON'T clog up your valves. http://www.truegoo.com

NOTHING will keep you for getting some flats, especially from, GLASS, GOAT Head Thorns and Metal shards from blow out car tires but the above will keep you on the road a lot long than NOT having them, jmho.

Recommend: Topeak Road Morph "on bike air pump" and Joe Blow series w/gage floor pumps. I've used these product for years now and they do the job. YMMV.
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Starting to get mad now, picked up my new bike at lunch and just walked it into the basement of the building i work in. About an hour later the front tire was flat, so after work took it back to the LBS. They were very nice and replaced the tube and i was out of there in less than 15min. I live 40 min away from the LBS pulled the bike out of my truck and the tire was low again. At this point i still had never even rode the bike yet, so i pumped up the tire and went around the block. Started talking to my neighbor and he wanted to test ride around the block. By the time he got back the tire was not flat but getting softer around 40psi when tested. Wondering if the wheel might be bad? Or if the rubber ring inside the rim might have a spoke sticking through or something. Went to call the LBS back but they closed at 6. Well not sure i will have time to swing by again tomorrow may have to wait till the weekend now. Just chaps my tail end spending close to $700 and have this happen. My crappy Wally world bike was and still is able to be used??? Anyone ever hear of something like this?
This is odd. Not unheard of, but odd. Yes, it seems as though there may be something in there, or a burr on the inside of the tire, or badly positioned (or no) rim tape, or something. If they are any good at all, they should be able to get you fixed up, though.
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Well I took it back and they were indeed able to find the source of the flats, a small needle like metal spike that poked through the rim tape. They got me fixed up and I was able to ride close to 8 miles last night would have rode more but it was still close to 100 deg at 8pm.
First impression of the Dale vs. the Trek, I like aspects of both. The grips on the Dale are much better more comfortable. I love the smother ride of the Dale I’m guessing because of the carbon fork? And the Dale seems to coast better not a big deal but also the sitting position seems a lot better. I do really miss the shifters on the Trek, the trigger type. All in all both really, really nice bikes much better than any bike I have ever had. I asked the LBS what they would charge to change my shifters to the kind the Trek has, they said $100 to $150 seems kind of high to me? I am getting wife agro (for the gamers out there) over the price of the bike and some of the extras I want. Oh and they were able to put a kick stand on with not much trouble.

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Well I took it back and they were indeed able to find the source of the flats, a small needle like metal spike that poked through the rim tape. They got me fixed up and I was able to ride close to 8 miles last night would have rode more but it was still close to 100 deg at 8pm.
First impression of the Dale vs. the Trek, I like aspects of both. The grips on the Dale are much better more comfortable. I love the smother ride of the Dale I’m guessing because of the carbon fork? And the Dale seems to coast better not a big deal but also the sitting position seems a lot better. I do really miss the shifters on the Trek, the trigger type. All in all both really, really nice bikes much better than any bike I have ever had. I asked the LBS what they would charge to change my shifters to the kind the Trek has, they said $100 to $150 seems kind of high to me? I am getting wife agro (for the gamers out there) over the price of the bike and some of the extras I want. Oh and they were able to put a kick stand on with not much trouble.

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Had to be something like that. Good deal.

I'm confused by your shifter comment. How do they differ from the Trek to the Cannondale? I would think they would be similar in function.
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Had to be something like that. Good deal.

I'm confused by your shifter comment. How do they differ from the Trek to the Cannondale? I would think they would be similar in function.
They are pretty close in style trigger (Trek) vs. lever ( Dale) it might just be me learning as I go on the Trek it was real easy right side trigger you shift up, upper and in front of the grip and thumb latch was down shift lower under grip. Hold the shifter till it changed gears was very smooth and shifted quickly. If you wanted to drop way down in gear hold in the thumb latch all the way and it kind of reset.

On the Dale I tried holding the shifter till it switches and just bumping it, sometimes it will go up one gear sometimes two or three and sometimes it hangs in-between and rubs. I figure it needs adjustment to stop the hang. Just had a better ability to hit the gear I wanted on the Trek. The Dale would be perfect with the Shimano EF50 trigger, 8 speed shifters. And maybe some little bit narrower tires.
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You might want to check your truck. Maybe when you put your bike in the truck somthing is poking a hole in your tire. A friend of mind paid $400 for a noise in his trunk. Brought the car to the dealer 6 times. The mechanic finally located the noise. The noise had nothing to do with the car but one of his golf balls fell out of the golf bag and would roll around in the trunk when he made a left turn while going down hill.
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if you plan to change out the shifters you might consider adding a new chain, cassette and go 9 speed. to do it yourself a cassette tool is required and you learn all about adjusting front and rear derailleurs. my 02.
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Let us know how it goes with the hand tingling and numbness. That was something that I couldn't beat on my hybrid after an hour in the saddle, but I think good adjustments will go a long way. I never tried ergo bars, kind of regret that.

I want to get a second bike aka get back into a hybrid. Will probably be looking into a Quick 3. What new colors are 2013? I love the white!
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