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    squeaking issue with front wheel

    Hello everyone,

    First off, this is the bike I am riding:
    Canndondale Bad Boy 1 2012 model. So it has the left fork with suspension, and disc brakes.

    I just wanted to ask other people's opinions about this. Currently, my front wheel keeps making a squeaking sound. It's not a constant sound. I can't describe it better other than saying that as the wheel is spinning, it goes squeak, squeak, squeak. So the faster I go, the faster the squeaking. Sometimes it also goes away completely, and then I'm a happy rider, but sometimes it just keeps making that noise for 10k sometimes. It gets quite unbearable. I've already taken it 3 times to the shop I bought it from with no luck. They grease it up, it disappears, but then reappears after 5k or so.

    One of the people there said that the squeaking is a common problem with lefty forks. Somehow this doesn't sit well with me. I also did a quick google search and didn't find anything relating to the squeaking being a common issue with lefties. I'd like to know if anyone has experienced the same problem, or if someone can suggest a fix for it.

    Thanks!

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    Reappears after 5K - 5 kilometers, 5,000 miles? I want to say, grease the bearings, replace bearings, if that doesn't work new hub or wheel.

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    my mistake, 5k as in kilometres. It's been greased to hell and back. It's still the same, and it's always at the same part of the wheel's rotation.

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    Have they checked for play in your hub? While the front wheel is installed can you shift it side/side compared to the fork leg that is there? My bike had the hubs develop a bit of lateral play a couple times and due to tight tolerances the rotors on the disk brakes would rub the pads. When the play got bad enough there was enough running for squeak to happen. LBS was able to fix it.

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    Might have them take a close look at the "disc brake pads" and the rotor, if the rotor is out of spec a bit it can rub just enough to cause a squeak! One other odd item, have them check the "pedals", I had a damned squeak I couldn't locate, the main mech. and I figured it was comming from a "hairline crack" in the body of one of the pedals, repalced the pedal, NO SQUEAK! Also, put a tiny bit of grease on the seat rails or the seat post holder, that squeak drove me nut's, luckly a long time rider, told me to check that and it worked FYI.
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    i thought i was the only one with this problem.i can defiantely relate to you on this. i've had mine serviced 3 times as well and i'm taking it in again (to a different bike place) to try and have them fix it. like you, they grease it up, it works fine for a day or two and then it starts up again. it sometimes is there and it sometimes isn't. its freaking annoying!

    it has nothing to do with the brakes touching the disk and nothing to do with the pedal. the sound comes from the front wheel. you only have to lift it up, turn the front wheel and away the squeaking sound goes.

    at the moment i havent got a solution for you. if i do, i'll let you know

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    I had that problem on a bike once and it turned out to be a little rubber dust cover or something like that near the end of the hub. (I clearly don't know enough to describe this accurately.) It was just a micron too big, and it was rubbing. So I took it off. Probably shouldn't have -- but it stopped the squeaking immediately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxi View Post
    i thought i was the only one with this problem.i can defiantely relate to you on this. i've had mine serviced 3 times as well and i'm taking it in again (to a different bike place) to try and have them fix it. like you, they grease it up, it works fine for a day or two and then it starts up again. it sometimes is there and it sometimes isn't. its freaking annoying!

    it has nothing to do with the brakes touching the disk and nothing to do with the pedal. the sound comes from the front wheel. you only have to lift it up, turn the front wheel and away the squeaking sound goes.

    at the moment i havent got a solution for you. if i do, i'll let you know
    What kind of hubs do they come with? My Bad Boy came with shimano disc hubs and I've had zero noises coming from them over a 5 year period. My guess it's because when Dorel took over the business from Cannondale, they skimped on the components.
    The newer Cannondale Bad Boys around here have very cheap parts, but then the price is now half what mine cost.
    How easy is it to replace your hubs, or are you trapped because of the single blade fork?
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    I don't think I've had *any* sort of hubs develop squeaks on a wide range of bikes over quite a long time. I've bent a few axles on cheaper hubs and had the bearings bind, but nothing like a squeak. creaking spokes on a poorly tensioned wheel, rubbing brakes, sure.

    cleaning and repacking loose ball bearings really isn't very hard, you just need a cone wrench of the appropriate size (2 double ended cone wrenches covers 90% of the hubs out there), along with a regular metric open end for the lock nut. I use green waterproof marine bearing grease, you can use white lithium grease, too. takes a bit of practice to set the cone just right so there's no play but no friction... too tight and you'll cause excess wear. back wheels will require a freewheel or cassette tool as you typically can't get at the drive side bearing when the freewheel/cassette is installed

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    [QUOTE=taxi;14938564]i thought i was the only one with this problem.i can defiantely relate to you on this. i've had mine serviced 3 times as well and i'm taking it in again (to a different bike place) to try and have them fix it. like you, they grease it up, it works fine for a day or two and then it starts up again. it sometimes is there and it sometimes isn't. its freaking annoying!

    ....tell me about it. I've only had my Badboy 5 for a few weeks (I've only ridden about 80k's on it), and this damned squeak has started. It is intermittent, I just can't tell when or why it starts and or stops. I took it to the bike shop and they mentioned it might be a warped brake disc. But the squeak has started up again. It is VERY annoying. I have mentioned it to the service/shop people again, and they say it is the dust seal on the bearings, and they suggest they will grease it up (and fix the problem), when I bring it in. Although, after seeing some of these posts - I'm pretty concerned this squeak is going to annoy the sh*t out me me for some time yet.

    Can anyone confirm this is a typical problem with BadBoys. The service guy insists they have this 'seal' problem on a lot of bikes.
    I'm in Sydney Australia - if that makes any difference.

    appreciate any input here.

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    touch the front brake lightly and see if it changes... i bet its the disk rotor.

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    ....tell me about it. I've only had my Badboy 5 for a few weeks (I've only ridden about 80k's on it), and this damned squeak has started. It is intermittent, I just can't tell when or why it starts and or stops. I took it to the bike shop and they mentioned it might be a warped brake disc. But the squeak has started up again. It is VERY annoying. I have mentioned it to the service/shop people again, and they say it is the dust seal on the bearings, and they suggest they will grease it up (and fix the problem), when I bring it in. Although, after seeing some of these posts - I'm pretty concerned this squeak is going to annoy the sh*t out me me for some time yet.

    Can anyone confirm this is a typical problem with BadBoys. The service guy insists they have this 'seal' problem on a lot of bikes.
    I'm in Sydney Australia - if that makes any difference.

    appreciate any input here.

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    If it's a 'creak' or a 'tick' then it might be caused by a loose spoke!

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    [QUOTE=Wil Davis;15128219]If it's a 'creak' or a 'tick' then it might be caused by a loose spoke!

    No, its a definite hi pitched squeek, that obviously gets faster, the faster you go.
    Its hard to tell if it's metal on metal - if anything, it sounds possibly like a kids squeeky vinyl toy (if you can imagine).
    It just starts, just stops, and just starts again...I no obvious fashion or timeframe.
    VERY annoying. Considering the cost of the bike -and it's brand new.

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    It's been a while since I posted my issue. Needless to say I got it fixed.

    This is where the importance of customer service of the bike shop comes into play. After sending it 3 times for the same issue, they just said to hell with it and gave me a completely new front wheel. It doesn't cost the bike shop anything since its under warranty and cannondale will reimburse them for the wheel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicholo85 View Post
    It's been a while since I posted my issue. Needless to say I got it fixed.

    This is where the importance of customer service of the bike shop comes into play. After sending it 3 times for the same issue, they just said to hell with it and gave me a completely new front wheel. It doesn't cost the bike shop anything since its under warranty and cannondale will reimburse them for the wheel.
    That sounds like a perfectly reasonable solution. And one in which I will persue, however, I'll probably have to accept this first offer of the service centre and see if the grease makes a difference. But I suspect - and I don't know lots about bikes - but, if there a several moving parts that are rubbing, and not aligning as they should, then no amount of grease is going to ever hold these parts in the right place. Seems like common sense - I hope they see it that way.

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