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    Quote Originally Posted by corwin1968 View Post
    ....flat-bar or riser-bar bikes than....spandex warriors ... carbon fiber wonders.... a hybrid.
    Not mutually exclusive.



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    Really high end Hybrids can be harder to sell, because there not really the best at anything. That's why the entry and midlevel ones sell the most. What are you going to do on a 2000.00 dollar Hybrid, that can not be done on a 650.00 bike ?
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    I'm a roadie, but I have no snobbery about hybrids. Different bikes serve different purposes. However, I don't own a hybrid because I have more than one bike, and in those circumstances one can choose to specialise.

    Having said that, my expedition tourer has flat bars and it would be difficult to come up with a definition of "hybrid" that it didn't fit. And when I was growing up (so long ago that mountain bikes hadn't been invented) virtually everyone who was not on a "racer" was riding something that today would be called a hybrid.

    Don't worry about definitions or snobbery. Ride the bike that meets your needs.
    There have been many days when I haven't felt like riding, but there has never been a day when I was sorry I rode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbchybridrider View Post
    many people are modifying there road or there MTB so it's easier to live with they have actually technically built them self's hybrid but afraid to call it a hybrid.
    I frequently refer to my drop bar MTB with road tires as "hybridized". Hybrids usually don't have drop bars, but that's a matter of preferences. The position is still more upright than my road bike. The 1.5" tires soak up the potholes and handle gravel trails quite nicely.

    To me, hybrid is simply a point somewhere between a skinny tired road bike and a bike made for serious off roading.
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    Anybody who rides a bike gets two thumbs up and a friendly nod from me. Bike shopping is kind of like car shopping. There are people who want to buy a performance car and then ride it on city streets in traffic at 35 mph. I love my bottom of the line Honda Civic which is reliable and inexpensive although it is a dog. We all want different things from our bikes. Personally, hybrids aren't for me, although I keep saying I should either ride my hybrid or sell it. I much prefer a road bike.

    Lots and lots of people bike to work. What do they ride? Mostly hybrids, followed by mountain bikes and some road bikes. Clearly hybrids are VERY popular.

    My only caveat when giving people advice on bike purchases is that there are a fair number of posts where people start out with a hybrid and six months later decide they want a road bike. I like to ask people to think about a road bike.

    Different strokes for different folks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by a1penguin View Post
    where people start out with a hybrid and six months later decide they want a road bike.
    This is exactly what happened with me when I started riding in the mid-90's, pretty much down to the 6 month time frame. I went out and bought a road bike that cost twice what I paid for my hybrid and within a year I sold the road bike and have been riding hybrids since. I think I was an exception and that most people who make the switch stick with the road bike. It seems to be a natural progression for many people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a1penguin View Post
    Anybody who rides a bike gets two thumbs up and a friendly nod from me. Bike shopping is kind of like car shopping. There are people who want to buy a performance car and then ride it on city streets in traffic at 35 mph. I love my bottom of the line Honda Civic which is reliable and inexpensive although it is a dog. We all want different things from our bikes. Personally, hybrids aren't for me, although I keep saying I should either ride my hybrid or sell it. I much prefer a road bike.

    Lots and lots of people bike to work. What do they ride? Mostly hybrids, followed by mountain bikes and some road bikes. Clearly hybrids are VERY popular.

    My only caveat when giving people advice on bike purchases is that there are a fair number of posts where people start out with a hybrid and six months later decide they want a road bike. I like to ask people to think about a road bike.

    Different strokes for different folks!
    Thanks for this great input. I think I may end up getting a road bike next yearb. I'm sure a lot of people own more than 1 bike. But from what I'm reading here it does serve me a purpose. and this makes me enjoy my new bike more

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    Quote Originally Posted by a1penguin View Post

    My only caveat when giving people advice on bike purchases is that there are a fair number of posts where people start out with a hybrid and six months later decide they want a road bike. I like to ask people to think about a road bike.

    Different strokes for different folks!
    I', sorta in that category. Bought a hybrid for commuting and it's been great. Now I also want a road bike for group road rides. I'm not looking to replace the hybrid though. Just to have each for different purposes.
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    I bought a Trek 7.1FX a few years ago for fitness, but gradually added stuff to it (racks, baskets, trunk, powerful headlight etc.) until it became so useful I could ride it every day (commuting, grocery hauling). The only drawback for me is that it is a little nerdy and lacks personality. Since buying the Trek, I have acquired two other bikes, both with much more style and looks (3-speed city bike, vintage 10-speed road bike). Even though it is my least beautiful bike, I still ride the Trek 90-95% of the time.

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    nothing wrong with owning it, just riding it ... only kidding. get a road bike so you have both! seriously!
    cycling is like baseball ~ it doesn't take much to make it interesting

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    Worst of both worlds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rebel1916 View Post
    Worst of both worlds.
    Can you please explain why? Is it really bad to have a little bit of both?

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    I pass road bikes all the time on my hybrid on the paved trails all over SoCal. I was much fatter when I bought my bike...i was trying to get more fit. Why would I want to pretend I'm some hard core, uncomfortable, bent over refugee from "Breaking Away"? There are definitely more road bikes on the trails, and honestly, I wouldn't mind trying a road bike to go faster, but it is completely unnecessary for the goals I had (losing weight, getting out of the house more often). When I first started riding I did feel like the black sheep because most people have road bikes and all the colorful jerseys and what not, but i realized I didn't need to show anyone what a hard core bicyclist I was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hybridbike View Post
    Can you please explain why? Is it really bad to have a little bit of both?
    Not bad at all. I have an old Specialized Hardrock with a rack and flat pedals, which serves as something of a hybrid. It's great for around town, or for toting the kids on a 10 or 15 mile ride. But for fitness and fun, a road bike is way better on paved surfaces, and a mountain bike is way better on dirt.

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    don't let all that put you off. you can wear what you want.
    cycling is like baseball ~ it doesn't take much to make it interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by robble View Post
    Century on a hybrid is no problem. If the engine could do it on a pure road bike, it can do it on a hybrid.
    Yes, but the "engine" would be handicaped a little ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yo Spiff View Post

    To me, hybrid is simply a point somewhere between a skinny tired road bike and a bike made for serious off roading.

    Not just you, the whole industry... thats why, there is some effort made to further (re-)catagorize them. Ex : fittness bikes, dual-sports, etc ... so we all stay sane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a1penguin View Post
    ...people start out with a hybrid and six months later decide they want a road bike...
    Half the summer, if they get out enough ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunbar View Post
    The best bike is the one you ride the most.
    Is that based on miles, or trips ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by martinus View Post
    Yes, but the "engine" would be handicaped a little ...
    I still stand by my statement. If the engine can do a century on a road bike it can do it on a hybrid. You have to have a certain physical ability to complete a century. the hybrid isn't going to "handicap" you enough to keep you from completing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robble View Post
    I still stand by my statement.
    ... and I, by mine.

    Quote Originally Posted by robble View Post
    If the engine can do a century on a road bike it can do it on a hybrid. You have to have a certain physical ability to complete a century. the hybrid isn't going to "handicap" you enough to keep you from completing it.
    Yes. You are correct, about a certain min amount of fitness level needed, to complete it ... however, you skip over the part on how much longer, it will take... AND how one will feel afterwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by martinus View Post
    Yes. You are correct, about a certain min amount of fitness level needed, to complete it ... however, you skip over the part on how much longer, it will take... AND how one will feel afterwards.
    Non-sense. Have you done centuries on both a hybrid and a road bike? I have, and there is little or no difference in comfort or speed. Most organized centuries end up in a pack ride, and aero becomes less important in a pack. You have the same speed as the group, regardless of bike, provided you can hang in the group.

    The fastest I have ever gone on a bike, 51.2 mph, was on a Specialized Sirrus. The fastest I have hit on any of my road bikes is 49.6 mph. It was entirely a function of the hill that I encountered on the Sirrus, and have never ridden again.

    The fastest flat land sprint I have ever done hit 41.0 mph (for about a second ), and was on a flat bar road bike. I have hit 39.4 mph on a drop bar bike, same section of road. I had a tail wind on my peak day with the flat bar.

    The longest single day ride I have done on a hybrid was 152 miles. The longest single day ride on a drop bar bike is 136 miles. Both of them were equally uncomfortable by the time I finished. Both were solo rides, and with meals, and stops, and visiting company on the way, 10 hour cycling days are fatiguing no matter what you ride.

    There is no magical speed or distance gift given by a road bike.

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    I get a couple guys telling me about aerodynamics of drop bars, the tighter ratios of a corn cob cassette compared my upright bars and 12-34 cassette and I just tell them I prefer it my way. Ride what you like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollCNY View Post
    There is no magical speed or distance gift given by a road bike.
    The advantage of road bikes are the multiple hand positions they offer and the ability* to get into the drops. Also, generally speaking the riding position is more aerodynamic and they come with tires that have lower rolling resistance than what you'll find on a typical hybrid. For me, flat bars are not comfortable after about an hour (and bar-ends don't help me.) Could you setup a hybrid to be as efficient as a road bike? Sure, but then you'd have a flat bar bike that's less comfortable than a properly setup road bike (which sort of defeats the purpose of buying a hybrid IMO.) You could probably setup any bike to be nearly as efficient as a road bike but I'm not sure what that is supposed to prove?

    *Drop bars are still more comfortable than flat bars even if you never use the drops IMO.
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    It's funny, I've been biking for many years, and I've always looked down on hybrids. I think because when they first came out (early 90s), they were pretty bad: mountain bike geometry, road sized wheels, limited tire clearance, and semi knobby tires. Now, as I use my cyclocross bike with flat bars, flat pedals, fenders, etc for riding around town... a hybrid might really do the job better. I'm thinking about heading out to test ride some, but I need some way to announce, "I'm looking at hybrids but I'm not a rookie!" Insecure, I guess.

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