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When you look at the position of a guy who isn't in the drops attacking and somebody on a hybrid, they look pretty similar to me so i'm not surprised by that guys post ^^^
Nothing wrong at all. I have thought many times about a road bike but I always go back to my hybrid I can ride it all around town. It is alot more practical. On the same token I can ride it 30 miles and avg 18 miles an hour. I could not go trail riding with it so I went ahead and also bought me a 29er now I can do it all.
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For what it is worth, I was not saying that every hybrid is as capable of efficient speed as every road bike. But I am saying that a hybrid can be set up to be a fast, efficient, and comfortable bike. I own both, ride both, and do not think one is superior to the other. Unfortunately, when someone says that a hybrid can never be ridden more than 30 miles comfortably, I invariably seem to cry BS.
Not to mention only people who are really into the biking community would have any idea what a cross bike is. To the average joe it's just another road bike.
If your correct, all the "pro's" on "the tour" , would be on nybrids ... O.o
... and yes, you could, hang on the back of a paceline with a hybrid and go *fast*... until its your turn to rotate to the front. O.O : o)
Last edited by martinus; 06-08-13 at 08:26 PM.
Bend the knees, watch the trees ... 5 $ please .
Why can't you just accept different strokes for different folks? Everyone doesn't love only road bikes. MHO
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I guess you dismiss people like me then because I do not find flat bar bikes comfortable on longer rides. I actually find them uncomfortable and I have plenty of experience riding them. I've tried bar-ends and the extra hand position they offer is not useable to me. But since we're all created equal I guess everybody can, and should, be able to ride a hybrid "comfortably" on rides over 30 miles according to your logic.Unfortunately, when someone says that a hybrid can never be ridden more than 30 miles comfortably, I invariably seem to cry BS.
Last edited by Dunbar; 06-08-13 at 10:03 PM.
My post was in no way a response to your initial post. You said "IMO" regarding drops and comfort, and gave input specific to yourself. It was a wonderful post. It was posts prior, by others, that stated a hybrid can never be comfortable, and one should never get one if they plan to go more than a few miles.
As a further note, I think many stock hybrids are uncomfortable as sold, with round, cheap rubber grips and silly handlebar shapes. If one spends the time, and of course money, to get good grips, and figures out what they want in a bar shape, they can be just as comfortable as drops.
Also, not all hybrids are set up equally. My flatbars are typically set lower than the hoods on my drop bar bikes, and the bars are cut to the minimum width to allow grips and controls, so the aero impact is not as significant as if I were sitting bolt upright. I take my turn on the front in a paceline, just as everyone else does. I tuck into a position similar to my drops to do it. None of this is rocket science.
I think my favorite thing about my hybrid (mtb made to be road friendly), is that I can run stuff over. Tree branch on the road, no need to swerve into traffic to avoid it, just run that sucker over. Pot hole, run it over. Storm sewer, run it over. Pile of sand, well you get the point
Wow..I didn't realize this was still going.
When you guys say "comfortable" does that mean you don't feel any pain on your bottom or legs?
I did 30 miles with slight inclines feeling great, averaged 14mph (don't know if that's good or not) I can't say if a road bike will feel better since I don't own one.
I picked up a Univega hybrid for cheap on CL, but it was pretty large (21"). My road bike size is 21", so I put a drop bar and stem shifters on it. I brought it to Block Island and it was perfect. It carried all my beach stuff without a problem, the wider tires were good for riding in sand, and it was fast enough to be fun without feeling twitchy. If you decide that flat bars aren't for you, there are other options like converting to drops or trekking (butterfly) bars.
a Hybrid of what and what combined?
Perhaps the problem is the Peer Group that thinks you should be riding something else ..
Either N+1 or ignore the critics.
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