355Mono

Should this happen? My wife has an XS frame (GT Tachyon) with 700 wheels, and she was surprised when her foot hit the wheel on a tight turn. We can retrun the bike no problem. The Cannondale Quick 4 XS comes with 26" wheels, I noticed. Is the big wheel/small frame the problem? Thanks.

prathmann

It's more common on small frames, but I have lots of 'toe-overlap' on my 60 cm (large) road bike that has a pretty tight geometry. Note that it's only an issue when making tight turns at low speed. At normal riding speeds you never turn sharply enough to hit your foot.

If she's happy with the bike in other respects see if she can get used to the toe-overlap issue by making sure she doesn't have her outside foot forward while making such tight, low-speed turns. It's similar to not having the inside foot down during fast turns to avoid pedal strikes on the road surface - after awhile it becomes second nature.

Al Criner

Is she pedaling with the arch of her foot over the pedal spindle? That won't help. Keeping the ball of her foot on the pedal will help minimize this.

corwin1968

Every bike I've owned has had toe overlap. Not a big deal. Just be aware of it when making very slow speed, sharp turns.

martinus

Its not a fixie. Coast, put pedals at 12&6 when turning. 12 in the direction of turn. Should be doing that anyway...

355Mono

Thanks all, for the responses. With clipless pedals, or traps, the ball of the foot is over the pedal, and doesn't get in the way. I'll watch her pedaling position.

a1penguin

I have clipless pedals and have toe overlap on both of my 51cm road bikes. It is more common on smaller frames. Some of the XS bikes come with 650c wheels which help a bit with overlap. You just get used to it and learn to stop pedaling on sharp turns.

lopek77

Its not right and its dangerous. Same issue prevented me from keeping my almost perfect, all original Panasonic 2000...I was /almost/ crying like a little baby. Please don't listen to other opinions suggesting its OK, or " stop pedaling while turning ". Its some kind of nonsense and I don't get it...

RPK79

Ignore this. It is common and a non-issue. If you're turning the wheel far enough to encounter the toe overlap you are moving at very slow speeds and shouldn't be pedaling anyway. I've ridden bikes for months without even realizing there was toe overlap.

lopek77

Sorry, but it also seems that you guys are also turning your brains off during "slow turns".
It IS a huge issue. You guys are saying that its OK to have a bad geometry/wrong size frame. Your solution makes NO SENSE at all. I should be able to pedal if I ride at all times. I hope that not many people saw this thread....that would be a disaster and a lot of bruises and road rash. I really hope you guys rethink this topic... and don't tell me that second solution is cutting toes off...Trust me...its also not good lol

ikaika777

My toes don't touch the wheel when I turn, I would hate that if that happened to me and doesn't seem safe.

LesterOfPuppets

Most of my road bikes have had toe overlap.

The 26" wheel bike would likely not have it but fewer choices for slick tires exist.

RPK79

If it was a huge issue manufacturers would have stopped building bikes with geometry that produces it decades ago. The vast majority of people believe this is a non-issue. If you don't believe me then look through the many many many toe overlap threads on this forum alone. The only time you will ever turn a wheel enough to encounter this issue is at very slow speeds and it is very simple to avoid foot/wheel contact. Even in the event of foot/wheel contact at such a slow speed it is unlikely that it will cause a crash.

There are also times when making a fast turn and leaning where if you continue pedaling you will strike the pedal on the ground. Should all bikes that have the geometry that can cause that issue be recalled as well? Since you "should be able to pedal at all times".

Shimagnolo

I had a bike I rode for 2 years before I found it had overlap.
And that was only because I checked it after reading a discussion on here.
So you will never convince me overlap is an issue.

giantcfr1

"Pedals Up" in a turn unless you're on a Keirin Track. lol