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i2iSTUDIOS 03-26-14 07:23 AM

Would I really notice the difference between a $1200 bike and a $700 bike?
 
i'm tyring to determine if i would really see a difference between the sirrus comp disc and the sirrus sport disc Specialized Bicycle Components. I rode both at the LBS for a short distance and they both felt fine. I will do a 20-30 mile bike ride a month in addition to normal 2-4 mile commuting. Thoughts?

spdracr39 03-26-14 07:30 AM

I would say probably not at first but after you have some experience and know what you like and what you dislike you probably would a little. The main difference in that small price difference is usually a better graphics package and slightly upgraded components that work basically the same. If this is your first bike I would recommend the cheaper version to start then as you learn what you really want from your bike sell it and buy an upgraded one that has all your desires. You may not realize it yet but you WILL be buying more bikes in the not so distant future !!

loimpact 03-26-14 07:32 AM

Looking at the specs on the two, I'd pocket the extra cash & go w/ the Sport!!! There's just not enough of a difference there to warrant the extra money...at least not to me.

i2iSTUDIOS 03-26-14 07:49 AM

Thanks for the quick replies. This is actually my 3rd hybrid bike. They keep getting stolen :-( My previous bikes were Trek 7.2 or 7.3, Kona Dew Deluxe. both in that mid price point. All of them rode fine though i always thought the kona didn't ride as fast as the Trek but i don't know why. My LBS has a sale on Specialized, Cannondale, and Giant this weekend.

Zenmaster2009 03-26-14 08:26 AM

I'd get the sport also. Spend the extra dough on some accessories or something fun. :D

How'd you like your Kona besides the riding as fast thing?

badger1 03-26-14 08:46 AM

The main (and to my mind very significant) difference is the frame. The Comp frame is E5 alum, the Sport A1. The former is lighter, stronger, more thoroughly butted etc, and probably subject to greater quality control. If that matters to you (it would to me), that alone is worth the difference assuming your plan would be to keep the bike long-term.

If not, no point in paying the difference. The components on the Comp are better, but those on the Sport are perfectly functional.

Edit: if it were me, though, I'd not bother with the discs and go with either the Elite or Comp non-disc: E5 frame; carbon fork.

wphamilton 03-26-14 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i2iSTUDIOS (Post 16612621)
Thanks for the quick replies. This is actually my 3rd hybrid bike. They keep getting stolen :-( My previous bikes were Trek 7.2 or 7.3, Kona Dew Deluxe. both in that mid price point. All of them rode fine though i always thought the kona didn't ride as fast as the Trek but i don't know why. My LBS has a sale on Specialized, Cannondale, and Giant this weekend.

My 2 cents: go cheaper on the bike and invest in quality locks.

i2iSTUDIOS 03-26-14 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zenmaster2009 (Post 16612742)
I'd get the sport also. Spend the extra dough on some accessories or something fun. :D

How'd you like your Kona?

The Kona was built like a tank and it was my first bike with disc brakes. It really stopped well especially when i had the tail bag full and in all weather. It wasn't as fast as I would have liked though, the FX felt like it rolled more freely.

Thanks for the support on the Sport model. makes me feel better if I end up with it.

ColonelSanders 03-26-14 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i2iSTUDIOS (Post 16612844)
The Kona was built like a tank and it was my first bike with disc brakes. It really stopped well especially when i had the tail bag full and in all weather. It wasn't as fast as I would have liked though, the FX felt like it rolled more freely.

Thanks for the support on the Sport model. makes me feel better if I end up with it.

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Little Darwin 03-26-14 10:25 AM

The more expensive bike is lighter, and your wallet would be also... It would be like riding on a cloud.

However, even with that benefit, my option would be to buy the less expensive bike, and spend the savings on a trip to a nice cycling destination.

themishmosh 03-26-14 10:33 AM

I few years ago, I bought a $600 Trek Hybrid. It didn't take long for me to tire of the crappy components they put on there. Ended up upgrading just about every component except for the wheels. I would definitely go for a higher price point than $700 if you are planning to keep the bike a while and it is more than just a vehicle for commuting. You do have to weigh in whether or not you think the bike will get stolen again--in that case I wouldn't spend a whole lot. Look at other brands too like the oft-mentioned Giant RX models.

DowneasTTer 03-26-14 10:47 AM

First you need to do something about having your bikes stolen. Park them in better places, use a bigger lock, move, buy only Walmart BSOs, CL bombers whatever. Otherwise your third hybrid will turn into your fourth, fifth, etc. With that problem solved I would look at the best beast I could afford meaning the lighter frame and better parts. Last year I bellied up to the bar and put over $1200 on a Giant Escape RX 0. It had a super light Alum frame and a carbon fork, 105s. The whole package was great. Talk about a difference over my older, cheaper bike. Both my wife and I road over 8,000 miles on them last year. Last month I lightened the retirement account even more and purchase two Giant Escape RX Composites. The carbon frame make a world of difference even better than the RX 0s. So ya the frame does make a big difference on how bikes ride. Good luck with whatever bike you decide to purchase .... but I would really WORK on the first part of your problem FIRST.

David Bierbaum 03-26-14 11:17 AM

I'm somewhat amazed that the thread has gotten this many replies without someone chiming in with the uselessly true answer "about $500!"

I think in general, beyond $700, the increase in price is related to a decrease in weight, with fancier lighter-weight components. $700 should get you a perfectly good bicycle that will last you a lifetime.

i2iSTUDIOS 03-26-14 11:17 AM

Well the theft issue gets worse if i told you the Kona got stolen twice so my bikes have been stolen 3 times actually . The Trek FX was stolen out of locked storage unit along with a ton of tools, renters insurance covered that. The first time The Kona got stolen it was in a new location with a combination master lock chain. I found it the first time on Craigslist and got it back the next day with the help of the police. The 2nd time was in my condo parking garage which is secure from outsiders unless they have card access. We have an idea who it could be but no way to prove it as it is a visitor we believe. That was locked up with a Kryponite chain lock. Homeowners policy deductible is $1000 so no use in filing a claim though we do have a police record.

I will be getting a Kryponite D lock next and a separate insurance policy on this next bike.:thumb:

sprinj76 03-26-14 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badger1 (Post 16612810)
The main (and to my mind very significant) difference is the frame. The Comp frame is E5 alum, the Sport A1. The former is lighter, stronger, more thoroughly butted etc, and probably subject to greater quality control. If that matters to you (it would to me), that alone is worth the difference assuming your plan would be to keep the bike long-term.

If not, no point in paying the difference. The components on the Comp are better, but those on the Sport are perfectly functional.

Edit: if it were me, though, I'd not bother with the discs and go with either the Elite or Comp non-disc: E5 frame; carbon fork.

+1

I just bought a 2013 Sirrus Comp (without discs) for $900 brand new from the LBS. Buying last years model (even though is has the same components) save me $200.

I would also recommend a carbon fork for the shock/vibration absorption it provides. I'm going to also recommend looking at the elite/comp non-disc versions, and throw in ask about last year's models and see if you can get a better price.

Bravin Neff 03-26-14 06:35 PM

Nope.

loimpact 03-26-14 08:06 PM

Well, I'll add that to those who are touting weight difference in the 2 bikes, I'd wager you could probably sweat the difference in weight away inside of an hour.

I proposed the "weight" question in another subforum & while consensus says the bike weight vs bodyweight makes no difference in the aggregate, I'd then go on to propose that the difference between a 23lb bike and a 25lb bike is damn near nothing at all considering any one of us can sweat 2lbs difference one way or the other.

Heck, tote 1 or 2 water bottles along & you've made that much difference & then some.

Get the cheaper bike until you can afford something in the 17lb range w/ 23cm tires that hold 150psi, signed by Mark Cavendish! ;)

tjax 03-27-14 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spdracr39 (Post 16612563)
You may not realize it yet but you WILL be buying more bikes in the not so distant future !!

Truer words have never been spoken.

fietsbob 03-27-14 12:41 PM

the Sport triple crank is just a double on the Comp, so the low is higher and the middle ring is not there.

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VeryPrivateGent 03-28-14 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spdracr39 (Post 16612563)
You may not realize it yet but you WILL be buying more bikes in the not so distant future !!

Super true..3 new bikes in less than 2 years..hehe

i2iSTUDIOS 03-28-14 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DowneasTTer (Post 16613253)
First you need to do something about having your bikes stolen. Park them in better places, use a bigger lock, move, buy only Walmart BSOs, CL bombers whatever. Otherwise your third hybrid will turn into your fourth, fifth, etc. With that problem solved I would look at the best beast I could afford meaning the lighter frame and better parts. Last year I bellied up to the bar and put over $1200 on a Giant Escape RX 0. It had a super light Alum frame and a carbon fork, 105s. The whole package was great. Talk about a difference over my older, cheaper bike. Both my wife and I road over 8,000 miles on them last year. Last month I lightened the retirement account even more and purchase two Giant Escape RX Composites. The carbon frame make a world of difference even better than the RX 0s. So ya the frame does make a big difference on how bikes ride. Good luck with whatever bike you decide to purchase .... but I would really WORK on the first part of your problem FIRST.

I did end up with the 2013 Giant Escape RX 0 with the good 105 components on it.. They had it on sale 15% off! I ordered a better lock and my bike is fully insured now so it's all good, no deductible. I like the Giant over the Sirrus by a LOT.

i2iSTUDIOS 03-28-14 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjax (Post 16616521)
Truer words have never been spoken.

Buying my wife a faster bike to keep up with me in a month or so.

Cyclosaurus 03-28-14 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i2iSTUDIOS (Post 16613370)
Well the theft issue gets worse if i told you the Kona got stolen twice so my bikes have been stolen 3 times actually . The Trek FX was stolen out of locked storage unit along with a ton of tools, renters insurance covered that. The first time The Kona got stolen it was in a new location with a combination master lock chain. I found it the first time on Craigslist and got it back the next day with the help of the police. The 2nd time was in my condo parking garage which is secure from outsiders unless they have card access. We have an idea who it could be but no way to prove it as it is a visitor we believe. That was locked up with a Kryponite chain lock. Homeowners policy deductible is $1000 so no use in filing a claim though we do have a police record.

I will be getting a Kryponite D lock next and a separate insurance policy on this next bike.:thumb:

Physical security seems to be a big issue for you. Why not consider a folder and keep it inside? Bike Friday is always an option, though pricey. I like this one for the money ($800): Dahon Vector P8 - a fast folding bike

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Zenmaster2009 03-28-14 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyclosaurus (Post 16620414)
Physical security seems to be a big issue for you. Why not consider a folder and keep it inside? Bike Friday is always an option, though pricey. I like this one for the money ($800): Dahon Vector P8 - a fast folding bike

That's one ugly bike!

Cyclosaurus 03-28-14 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zenmaster2009 (Post 16620505)
That's one ugly bike!

LOL, OK, I can accept this isn't everyone's cup of faux-badass tea. Maybe it's the result of growing up in the 80s, but I can't help but love the look. I'm imagining David Hasselhoff taking this bike out of KITT's trunk to go chase down some bad guys on the MUP with it. I guess if that imagery doesn't make your heart swoon, then this one just ain't for you. ;-)


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