Making My Hybrid more road friendly?
#1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Fuquay Varina, NC (Research Triangle)
Posts: 269
Bikes: 2016 Fuji Gran Fondo 2.0 LE, Specialized Tricross Elite Disc (2013), Motobecane 529HT
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Making My Hybrid more road friendly?
Would I get noticeably better road performance if I went from 700cc 32mm to 28mm?
I am starting to regret my hybrid purchase as I am riding much more with long group road rides then I am on the light trails that I was riding when I first bought it... I just do not have the money now though to buy a road bike, so I would like to find a way to make what I have a more road friendly. I plan on adding bar ends just so I have more space to move my hands around when they get tired, but I really need to do something to pick up the speed a bit without having to work so much harder then all the other riders who are on road bikes (Im usually the only person on a hybrid). Any ideas would be helpful, Im still really new to cycling and know next to nothing about bike mechanics.
Would be a big bonus if anyone is familiar with Giant GX-02 rims and can tell me what size tire I can drop down too without changing rims. I can find no specs for it on Giants website.
I am starting to regret my hybrid purchase as I am riding much more with long group road rides then I am on the light trails that I was riding when I first bought it... I just do not have the money now though to buy a road bike, so I would like to find a way to make what I have a more road friendly. I plan on adding bar ends just so I have more space to move my hands around when they get tired, but I really need to do something to pick up the speed a bit without having to work so much harder then all the other riders who are on road bikes (Im usually the only person on a hybrid). Any ideas would be helpful, Im still really new to cycling and know next to nothing about bike mechanics.
Would be a big bonus if anyone is familiar with Giant GX-02 rims and can tell me what size tire I can drop down too without changing rims. I can find no specs for it on Giants website.
#2
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Lewisville, TX
Posts: 660
Bikes: 1976 Motobecane Grand Touring, 2013 Fuji Absolute 2.1 hybrid, 2000 Mongoose S2000 MTB, 2009 Schwinn Jaguar beach cruiser
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 83 Post(s)
Liked 193 Times
in
99 Posts
Have you tried flipping your stem and removing spacers under the stem to give you a lower, more aerodynamic riding position on your Escape? That would probably provide more benefit than marginally narrower tires. Bar ends are a good choice, but you already realized that.
Last edited by camjr; 06-03-14 at 10:05 PM.
#3
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 6,319
Bikes: 2012 Salsa Casseroll, 2009 Kona Blast
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1031 Post(s)
Liked 208 Times
in
146 Posts
Changing tires from 32 to 28 will make almost no difference, IMO. When I say tiny, I mean, maybe you will shave 10 or 15 seconds off a 30 mile ride. And your ride quality won't be as good. Don't know if you want to or even can go down to 25 mm tires.
The main thing slowing you down is the upright riding position. You could switch stems to stretch out and get lower but, in general, you can't turn a hybrid into a road bike.
In general, if you want a road bike, buy a road bike.
The main thing slowing you down is the upright riding position. You could switch stems to stretch out and get lower but, in general, you can't turn a hybrid into a road bike.
In general, if you want a road bike, buy a road bike.
#4
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Fuquay Varina, NC (Research Triangle)
Posts: 269
Bikes: 2016 Fuji Gran Fondo 2.0 LE, Specialized Tricross Elite Disc (2013), Motobecane 529HT
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
No, like I said, I know nothing about mechanics so I would have never thought about that. Thanks, I will look into it.
#5
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Fuquay Varina, NC (Research Triangle)
Posts: 269
Bikes: 2016 Fuji Gran Fondo 2.0 LE, Specialized Tricross Elite Disc (2013), Motobecane 529HT
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Changing tires from 32 to 28 will make almost no difference, IMO. When I say tiny, I mean, maybe you will shave 10 or 15 seconds off a 30 mile ride. And your ride quality won't be as good. Don't know if you want to or even can go down to 25 mm tires.
The main thing slowing you down is the upright riding position. You could switch stems to stretch out and get lower but, in general, you can't turn a hybrid into a road bike.
In general, if you want a road bike, buy a road bike.
The main thing slowing you down is the upright riding position. You could switch stems to stretch out and get lower but, in general, you can't turn a hybrid into a road bike.
In general, if you want a road bike, buy a road bike.
Would adjusting the seat make a difference? I could go a little higher with it and a little further back.. I have been meaning to test out different positions with it anyways.
#6
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 6,319
Bikes: 2012 Salsa Casseroll, 2009 Kona Blast
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1031 Post(s)
Liked 208 Times
in
146 Posts
They should put this type of thread up as a sticky in the hybrid and general cycling forums. Too many of us started with hybrids when we might have been happier and saved money in the long run had we gone with road bikes.
#7
Just a person on bike
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 2,140
Bikes: 2015 Trek 1.1, 2021 Specialized Roubaix, 2022 Tern HSD S+
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 132 Post(s)
Liked 86 Times
in
56 Posts
Just curious, how long have you been riding a bike in general? I don't doubt having a more "road-friendly" bike would help, but on the other hand, can it also be that your riding buddies have more experience that enables them to go fast for a long period of time?
__________________
The value of your life doesn't change based on the way you travel. - Dawn Schellenberg (SDOT)
The value of your life doesn't change based on the way you travel. - Dawn Schellenberg (SDOT)
#8
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
Posts: 830
Bikes: 16 Haibike Sdruo Cross SM
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 30 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times
in
3 Posts
Its the power transfer of the bottom bracket that matters. How much that area flexes or how stiff it is that makes the ride to me for going faster and easier. Your hybrid is made for commutes in comfort.
And the reality is many hybrids feel like jello in the bottom bracket area compared to road bikes.
And the others are right, 32 to 28 wont make it faster, maybe feel more nimble and that's it.
And the reality is many hybrids feel like jello in the bottom bracket area compared to road bikes.
And the others are right, 32 to 28 wont make it faster, maybe feel more nimble and that's it.
#9
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Fuquay Varina, NC (Research Triangle)
Posts: 269
Bikes: 2016 Fuji Gran Fondo 2.0 LE, Specialized Tricross Elite Disc (2013), Motobecane 529HT
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
In most cases that is probably true... fitness too as before I started cycling two months ago, I had not been on a bike in 20 years and had really been a couch potato. All that aside though, people keep pointing to how wide my tires are as the reason I'm struggling to keep up... maybe they are just being nice and blaming the bike instead of my out of shape butt...lol. I don't know really. Its probably a mix of all of it.
#10
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Fuquay Varina, NC (Research Triangle)
Posts: 269
Bikes: 2016 Fuji Gran Fondo 2.0 LE, Specialized Tricross Elite Disc (2013), Motobecane 529HT
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Its the power transfer of the bottom bracket that matters. How much that area flexes or how stiff it is that makes the ride to me for going faster and easier. Your hybrid is made for commutes in comfort.
And the reality is many hybrids feel like jello in the bottom bracket area compared to road bikes.
And the others are right, 32 to 28 wont make it faster, maybe feel more nimble and that's it.
And the reality is many hybrids feel like jello in the bottom bracket area compared to road bikes.
And the others are right, 32 to 28 wont make it faster, maybe feel more nimble and that's it.
#11
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
Posts: 830
Bikes: 16 Haibike Sdruo Cross SM
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 30 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times
in
3 Posts
I think the bike can be made to feel more nimble and more aero with stem swaps and that's about it. As for going faster that's really not in the cards.
The good news is fast cheap road bikes like the CAAD line or Allez line is really not that expensive.
#12
Just a person on bike
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 2,140
Bikes: 2015 Trek 1.1, 2021 Specialized Roubaix, 2022 Tern HSD S+
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 132 Post(s)
Liked 86 Times
in
56 Posts
In most cases that is probably true... fitness too as before I started cycling two months ago, I had not been on a bike in 20 years and had really been a couch potato. All that aside though, people keep pointing to how wide my tires are as the reason I'm struggling to keep up... maybe they are just being nice and blaming the bike instead of my out of shape butt...lol. I don't know really. Its probably a mix of all of it.
__________________
The value of your life doesn't change based on the way you travel. - Dawn Schellenberg (SDOT)
The value of your life doesn't change based on the way you travel. - Dawn Schellenberg (SDOT)
#13
aka Phil Jungels
Bolt on drops, from Origin 8, can help you get lower, inexpensively.
Higher quality tires, if you still have the OEMs on there, have lower rolling resistance.
Have you tried pumping your tires 10# over max, to see if it makes a difference? What pressure are you running?
Higher quality tires, if you still have the OEMs on there, have lower rolling resistance.
Have you tried pumping your tires 10# over max, to see if it makes a difference? What pressure are you running?
#14
Senior Member
I'm in exactly the same position as the OP. My conclusion is that my hybrid is pretty close to perfect for its intended application, but it isn't a road bike and never will be. I don't want to get rid of the hybrid because I love the off-road versatility it brings (still do about 30% of my riding off pavement). But for longer road rides where I want to carry more speed over greater distance, I "need" a road bike.
I added bar ends to mine - as well as clipless pedals - both helped a bunch in improving the riding experience.
I added bar ends to mine - as well as clipless pedals - both helped a bunch in improving the riding experience.
#15
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: 25 miles northwest of Boston
Posts: 29,549
Bikes: Bottecchia Sprint, GT Timberline 29r, Marin Muirwoods 29er, Trek FX Alpha 7.0
Mentioned: 112 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5224 Post(s)
Liked 3,581 Times
in
2,342 Posts
I spent considerable time and money roadifying my hybrid because I made the mistake of not getting a road bike. eventually I got a road bike. save yourself the time and money and get a new bike and go riding!
what I did: tires, stem and drop bars (after trying all sorts of bolt on bars straight and dropped), saddle, fenders & rack. very comfortable, fast and a great commuter. but now I ride an aluminum road bike with a carbon fork, no fenders and a Brooks leather saddle. oh and brifters (integrated brake lever / gear shifter) which changed my life.
what I did: tires, stem and drop bars (after trying all sorts of bolt on bars straight and dropped), saddle, fenders & rack. very comfortable, fast and a great commuter. but now I ride an aluminum road bike with a carbon fork, no fenders and a Brooks leather saddle. oh and brifters (integrated brake lever / gear shifter) which changed my life.
#16
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Fuquay Varina, NC (Research Triangle)
Posts: 269
Bikes: 2016 Fuji Gran Fondo 2.0 LE, Specialized Tricross Elite Disc (2013), Motobecane 529HT
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Bolt on drops, from Origin 8, can help you get lower, inexpensively.
Higher quality tires, if you still have the OEMs on there, have lower rolling resistance.
Have you tried pumping your tires 10# over max, to see if it makes a difference? What pressure are you running?
Higher quality tires, if you still have the OEMs on there, have lower rolling resistance.
Have you tried pumping your tires 10# over max, to see if it makes a difference? What pressure are you running?
#17
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 91
Bikes: 2014 Giant Defy 1, 1996 Trek 730
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
The biggest difference in tires might be from tread pattern. If the stock tires are really knobby for off road use switching to slick 28s may help - somewhat. And by all means try playing with your saddle position and height to maximize power transfer. Clipless pedals will also help, particularly if you're climbing.
#19
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Fuquay Varina, NC (Research Triangle)
Posts: 269
Bikes: 2016 Fuji Gran Fondo 2.0 LE, Specialized Tricross Elite Disc (2013), Motobecane 529HT
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
What about butterfly handlebars? I have never seen anyone using them before, but from what I have read online, hybrid riders who switched to them say they make a huge difference. Not many places seem to sell them though.
#21
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Fuquay Varina, NC (Research Triangle)
Posts: 269
Bikes: 2016 Fuji Gran Fondo 2.0 LE, Specialized Tricross Elite Disc (2013), Motobecane 529HT
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
#22
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 6,319
Bikes: 2012 Salsa Casseroll, 2009 Kona Blast
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1031 Post(s)
Liked 208 Times
in
146 Posts
No, but it will give the hands and back some relief on rides longer than 3 or 4 hours. If it were that easy to turn a $400 hybrid into a road bike, I am sure more people would do it.
#23
Banned.
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,535
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
Get the Schwinn Fastback 1 at www.nashbar.com @ $680 on sale, today and tomorrow, only!
Tiagra gruppo + a CF fork 2!
Tiagra gruppo + a CF fork 2!
Last edited by WestPablo; 06-04-14 at 09:04 PM.
#24
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Fuquay Varina, NC (Research Triangle)
Posts: 269
Bikes: 2016 Fuji Gran Fondo 2.0 LE, Specialized Tricross Elite Disc (2013), Motobecane 529HT
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Get the Schwinn Fastback 1 at www.nashbar.com @ $680 on sale, today and tomorrow, only!
Tiagra gruppo + a CF fork 2!
Tiagra gruppo + a CF fork 2!