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    Decisions-Keep my current hybrid bike and upgrade or sell?

    Hi,

    I have been riding for sometime but haven't really gotten into modifying my current bicycle.

    Current Bike: 2011 GT Transeo 3.0 Disc

    What can I upgrade or should? Was thinking about doing the handle bars but no idea where to start for what will fit, ect.

    Or should I part ways with the bike and pick up something else.

    Right now I am riding on paved bike paths and its just for enjoyment and exercise.

    Current trips: I ride between 12-30 miles when I do ride.

    Pros: Versatile, Looks Good, Reasonably Priced, can remove the front tire very easily.

    Cons: On The Heavy Side, Stock Seat Not So Comfortable, Not Suited For Serious Off-Roading, I get passed ALL the time by road bikes.

    Thanks

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    Changing your saddle is about the easiest thing you can do on a bike... can't believe you have been riding around on an uncomfortable one for a long time.

    As for con's.. you kinda gotta pick... Off roading or speed.. you not gonna find both.. Hybrid are supposed to do a little of each, but neither one great. If you want serious off road, you need a mountain bike.. if you don't wanna get passed all the time on pavement, you need a road bike... If you would rather have what you have now, and be able to do a little of both without getting stuck only doing one or the other... just buy a new saddle.
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    A bike that IS suited for serious off-roading will get you passed by the road bikes even faster. If you want to do serious off-roading you need a MTB. If you want to race the road bikes, you need a road bike. If you want to ride bike paths for exercise and enjoyment, you need neither.

    A saddle swap is an easy an relatively inexpensive fix.

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    Ive done some off-roading with my current bike and though it was fun I knew it wasnt intended for that.

    At the end of the day I would rather have to a bike that I can commute with, travel some distance and not get passed.

    The commuter bike or even a mountain bike is just easier to ride and balance rather than a road bike. Guess its going to take some time getting use to.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeepItSimple View Post
    Ive done some off-roading with my current bike and though it was fun I knew it wasnt intended for that.

    At the end of the day I would rather have to a bike that I can commute with, travel some distance and not get passed.

    The commuter bike or even a mountain bike is just easier to ride and balance rather than a road bike. Guess its going to take some time getting use to.

    Thanks.
    No understanding the "not get passed" requirement -are you commuting or racing? The best way to make any bike go faster is to upgrade the engine, not the bike. There's an old grey-haired dude on a hybrid that I often encounter on my morning rides and he can go flying past me anytime he wishes. It's not because his BIKE is faster than mine...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaeger99 View Post
    No understanding the "not get passed" requirement -are you commuting or racing? The best way to make any bike go faster is to upgrade the engine, not the bike. There's an old grey-haired dude on a hybrid that I often encounter on my morning rides and he can go flying past me anytime he wishes. It's not because his BIKE is faster than mine...
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    No matter what kind of bike you ride you will get passed.

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    Can you guys recommend my upgrading anything on my current bike to make it more enjoyable? Faster? Functional?

    Thanks for your suggestions.

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    First,getting passed has as much,if not more,to do with the rider than the bike. Lance on a bikeshare bike would drop you like an anchor. You'll need to keep riding and get your legs if you don't want to be passed.

    For the seat,go around to your local shops and see what they have. Many brands have comfort guarantees that let you return them for a different model if you don't like them. Shops that carry Specialized also have gauges to measure your sitbones to help you pick a saddle.

    For the bars,check your stem and bars to see if they give the diameter. Any non-drop bar of your stem's diameter will work,but you may need to lengthen/shorten your cables. If you see a bar you want that doesn't match your stem,then just swap your stem. Local shops can help you pick a bar/stem combo as well.

    As for lightening the bike,your best bets would be to swap to lighter tires and/or replace your fork with a rigid one. Anything beyond that,and you'd pretty much do better by getting another bike.

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    I will disagree with others. That bike you have is slow. You will be much faster in a light-weight roadbike or even flatbar road bike. Doesn't mean you won't get passed by roadies but your average speed should go up tremendously on paved roads/trails. Don't know why others keep saying an elite athlete will be faster than you on any bike. Last I checked, I don't see many elite bikers riding on my bike trail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeepItSimple View Post
    Can you guys recommend my upgrading anything on my current bike to make it more enjoyable? Faster? Functional?

    Thanks for your suggestions.
    Better tires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaeger99 View Post
    No understanding the "not get passed" requirement -are you commuting or racing? The best way to make any bike go faster is to upgrade the engine, not the bike. There's an old grey-haired dude on a hybrid that I often encounter on my morning rides and he can go flying past me anytime he wishes. It's not because his BIKE is faster than mine...
    I have to disagree... to an extent. I would say its 50/50 the engine and bike. A road bike is going to be significantly faster than say a cruiser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacksapphire08 View Post
    I have to disagree... to an extent. I would say its 50/50 the engine and bike. A road bike is going to be significantly faster than say a cruiser.
    Fair enough - I don't claim to have all the answers - but I don't think it's as much as 50 / 50. And in any event he's not riding a cruiser. And he's not going to see a 50% improvement just switching to a road bike. It will be faster - sure. But then you're confronted with the fact that it will be even less capable off-road than his current hybrid. Remember "not suited for serious off-roading" was one of the cons he listed for his existing bike.

    And on a road bike he will still get passed by stronger riders on whatever type of bike they happen to be riding. I have some serious road bike buddies who have been riding for years and years. They are the ones that talked me out of buying a department store bike and getting something at least reasonably decent. If I give one of the guys my Hybrid and take his all-carbon / Ultegra road bike he will still kick my butt in a race of any distance. And kick it hard.

    I guess I just don't really understand why anyone cares whether they get passed outside of a race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeepItSimple View Post
    Can you guys recommend my upgrading anything on my current bike to make it more enjoyable? Faster? Functional?

    Thanks for your suggestions.
    A new Saddle... that's a no brainier. If there is a Performance bike near you, get one there, they have a great return polict so if you don't ike the one you buy, you can exchange it for another within a certain time frame. Saddles are hit or miss.

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    I will check out the saddles and side bars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacksapphire08 View Post
    I have to disagree... to an extent. I would say its 50/50 the engine and bike. A road bike is going to be significantly faster than say a cruiser.
    I would say it's much more to do with the rider than with the bike - closer to 70/30 or even 80/20. I push hard on my commute. When I ride my hybrid, the typical average speed is about 13 MPH. On my carbon road bike, it's more like 14.5 MPH. That's it.

    I personally don't think "not getting passed" is a positive motivation to upgrade a bike. If you get a high-end road bike, sure you may not get passed as often, but you don't really count that. You will still get passed, and that's what sticks in your mind. You will feel like the new road bike is still not good enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daihard View Post
    I would say it's much more to do with the rider than with the bike - closer to 70/30 or even 80/20. I push hard on my commute. When I ride my hybrid, the typical average speed is about 13 MPH. On my carbon road bike, it's more like 14.5 MPH. That's it.
    To me, you just proved the opposite. a 1.5 mph average speed difference is huge. The difference is even bigger riding a mountain or comfort bike.

    I ride for fitness and fun. When I ride, I try to ride hard. When I get passed... yeah, I am bothered but also respect the biker passing me. Just makes me want to get faster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daihard View Post
    I would say it's much more to do with the rider than with the bike - closer to 70/30 or even 80/20. I push hard on my commute. When I ride my hybrid, the typical average speed is about 13 MPH. On my carbon road bike, it's more like 14.5 MPH. That's it.

    I personally don't think "not getting passed" is a positive motivation to upgrade a bike. If you get a high-end road bike, sure you may not get passed as often, but you don't really count that. You will still get passed, and that's what sticks in your mind. You will feel like the new road bike is still not good enough.
    It does depend on the bike, some hybrids are closer to a road bike than others. Personally I went from an average 10mph on my cruiser to 15mph on my hybrid along the same path.

    Regardless my advice to the OP is to do nothing to the bike as long as they enjoy riding it. If they feel like they've hit the full potential of the bike and want more then an upgrade or new bike might be a good idea. The cost of upgrading could be as much as a new bike though so keep that in mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daihard View Post
    I would say it's much more to do with the rider than with the bike - closer to 70/30 or even 80/20. I push hard on my commute. When I ride my hybrid, the typical average speed is about 13 MPH. On my carbon road bike, it's more like 14.5 MPH. That's it.

    I personally don't think "not getting passed" is a positive motivation to upgrade a bike. If you get a high-end road bike, sure you may not get passed as often, but you don't really count that. You will still get passed, and that's what sticks in your mind. You will feel like the new road bike is still not good enough.
    Agreed.

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    It's not really fair to compare a cruiser to a road bike ---- the only way you would get more different, is to compare it to a big wheel.......... I thought we were talking performance hybrids and road bikes - you will never see a 50% difference. MHO

    You have to decide the type of use, and tailor it to that. Stronger motor is the only way to make you beat everyone else. Better Tires, and more gears, is how you make it slightly faster. Bars and seats is how you make it more comfortable , different styles, and accessories, is how you make it more functional for use.

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    The OP has a comfort bike or at least it is marketed as such. Can you get faster with a different bike or modifications to your existing bike? Definitely. 2 mph faster for a performance hybrid is what I would expect. Call that significant/insignificant as you wish.
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    Transeo is not a comfort bike, marketed as Urban Sport. A performance hybrid with front suspension. Maybe not as stylish and performance oriented as flat bar road bikes, or the Sirrus, FX, Escape , etc ---- but performance non the less. Certainly not mountain or comfort classes. And very capable for the riding being described.

    This style is more of a tourer, with "trekking" forks for a smoother ride. And, yes, they work for that.

    Yes, the right tires will improve speed considerably, if he is still running OEMs........ But what is considerable? A quality tire, like Schwalbe Marathon Supreme will be an improvement ... MHO. 2 MPH faster average over 20-30 miles? I don't think so! That's a lot on any style bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by treadtread View Post
    Better tires.
    +1
    Bikepedia.com says that bike has 40mm Schwalbe Landcruiser tires.
    Those are stiff & heavy.
    Put on a set of 28mm tires. On a long ride, the smaller fatigue factor (you) will be very noticeable.

    That is also listed as having an 11-32T cassette.
    You probably don't use the 11 or 32. Get something like a 12/13-25/26 cassette.
    It'll give you more USEFULL gears.

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    I'm sure it's debateable but non-mtb, hybrid bikes with front suspension are today's "comfort bikes"--usually sought after by people looking for upright sitting position and comfort afforded by the front suspension and big, cushy tires. Even Performance Bike labels these "comfort bikes".
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    Re: road bikes on bike paths. I would say most serious roadies stick to the roads. The road bikes that pass you on bike paths are by-and-large Average Joe's on faster bikes. Get a performance hybrid or road bike and it's a totally different picture.

    Ask anyone with a MTB what their speeds are on pavement. It'll be 4-5mph slower than on a road bike. That's huge and solely due to the bike.

    I would agree that getting passed should not be your motivation for upgrading. To me, going faster and on a lighter, more responsive bike is WAAAAAY more fun!
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