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Old 07-06-14, 07:56 PM   #1
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lower end hybrid trek vs. cannondale

I have a 15-20 year old Bianchi Advantage 10 speed. I bought it used. I was going to get it tuned up ($130-175 depending on store) so I decided to look at some lower end hybrid bikes. I mainly used it on paved trails. Probably at most 30-50 times/year (absolute most) to get some exercise. Current bike doesn't shift well, etc... so its why I was looking at a tune up. Its not about going as fast as possible. I mainly go out on weekends for 1-3 hour round trips on a paved trail near my house.

There are 2 bike shops near my house. One cells cannondale and one cells trek. I looked at the Cannondale CX (cheaper ones) and the Trek bikes (7.1-7.3). They talked alot about components, etc... That really means nothing to me. They did say that better ones shift a little better. Is it that much of a difference? As far as price... I don't have a number, but I don't want to pay for something that doesn't really matter. All the bikes in the store were alot lighter than mine. I thought this was nice. I definitely was not look for anything even close to $1000.

I really can't tell much of a difference between a $500 bike or an $800 bikes to an average leisurely rider? The component types don't strike me as mattering all that much to me. Or even a cheaper bike.

Any recommendations? I really don't know how to tell.

One shop had a Cannondale CX for $709. I am guessing that is a CX 4? Given price?
There was some trek version at about $780. I think it was 7.3, but not sure.

Are those much better than a lower end one say a Trek 7.1? Or even something cheaper than that?

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Old 07-06-14, 09:01 PM   #2
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There are 2 bike shops near my house. One cells cannondale and one cells trek. I looked at the Cannondale CX (cheaper ones) and the Trek bikes (7.1-7.3). They talked alot about components, etc... That really means nothing to me. They did say that better ones shift a little better. Is it that much of a difference? As far as price... I don't have a number, but I don't want to pay for something that doesn't really matter. All the bikes in the store were alot lighter than mine. I thought this was nice. I definitely was not look for anything even close to $1000.
...The component types don't strike me as mattering all that much to me. Or even a cheaper bike.

Any recommendations? I really don't know how to tell.
...Or even something cheaper than that?
What a strange post.
You went to the bike shops and they answered your questions of the advantages and disadvantages of the range. You ignored them because it means nothing to you.....So, you ask the same questions on the internet. Are you going to ignore the advice here too? If the information and price they provided is irrelevant to you, why not just go with your gut feeling? You must have with your Bianchi.
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Old 07-07-14, 06:57 AM   #3
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I for one understand that perhaps the OP senses that he's not being dealt with honestly at his LBS. Having just shopped and researched and test rode before buying a bike which a LBS completely screwed up and now has to be replaced, I can sympathize with the OP.

"I was going to get it tuned up ($130-175 depending on store)" - This is way too much $$$. Keep an eye on Groupon or Amazon Local for coupons as little as 1/4 of that cost.

By my research, I didn't see any really good components until I breached the $800-$1000 level.

If you are mechanically inclined you could fix up your bike yourself buying better components but as you say you still are stuck with a heavy old bike.

Your decision will be based on the end result, if your bike functioned properly would it be fine, or a new bike that is supposed to be functioning perfectly for just a little more than it took to repair your current bike?

I would get my current bike working properly then decide if I wanted to move up to a better performing bike.

Here are some tools that may help.

bicyclebluebook.com

bikepedia.com
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Old 07-07-14, 07:30 AM   #4
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I bought a 7.2 fx and it runs great and shifts perfect. There are those who will suggest to pay more for purportedly better components, but at the end of the day, much of this revolves around the laws of diminishing returns.
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Couldn't be happier with my Trek 7.2. The only upgrade I have needed was a better saddle for my rear.
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Old 07-07-14, 01:41 PM   #6
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About bike tuneup costs... yeah that seemed like an awful lot. I live in northern virginia and there is a well known bike trail near my house. Its probably why prices are higher. It is bizarre that they would be so high. There is a 3rd bike shop nearby too. That is 3 bikes shops with in about 5 miles. This is a rather high cost of living area.

To the guy trolling me... advice from a sales person? Seriously? It wasn't advice. He was trying to sell me something.

What do the components really mean to someone who just leisurely rides? I mean I want to put effort into to it to get my heart rate up and burn some calories, but that is about it. All I got out of the sales people were 'better components'. Does it make much of a difference? Will the shifting be that big of a deal? My current bike really needs a tune up. It does not shift well at all. Gets stuck on shifts, etc... Does a lighter bike really matter much? I'm not racing anyone?

trying to figure out if any of these higher priced things would matter to me. I pedal. Bike goes forward.
Few questions.

1. What difference do these 'components' mean to someone just going out for a ride. As far as the material, ok, thats nice, but what does it mean to someone who just pedals and goes forward?

2. The gear shifting on my current bike is terrible. Mainly due to need for a tuneup. Didn't pay for this, due to sticker shock and considering a new bike first. Do trek 7.1 7.2 or a lower end Cannondale CX gear much better than a well tuned older bike like the Bianchi Avantage?

3. Weight: I'm not racing people. Does this really matter? I weight 180. Does saving a few pounds make much of a difference? I do about a 30 mile round trip at most. I thnk if I take the trail to the end its about a 60 mile round trip. Need to build up stamina to get in better shape, does the weight make much of a difference? Going farther is a little nicer trip. Note there are stops for roads, etc... so you don't burn the whole way (I use the W&OD train in northern virginia).

4. More Gears: Current bike has 10 gears. New ones have 20 plus. Does this mean much to an average rider? I am guessing I'll probably just use a few of them most of the time right?

5. As far as price goes... saw that bluebook, etc... any place to buy bikes online and get them shipped? Prices may be alot lower. How many tools would I need to put it together. Not exactly mechanically inclined, but I can read a manual.

6. Bike fitting: ok saw some videos. I just got my bike off craigslist used and then set the seat. One of the sales pitches is they fit the bike. I have no idea if they do much fancy. One of the places charges like $300 for a proper fitting which I don't think comes with a purchase. They do some stuff. Note this is a more expensive area so prices are higher...
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Go with what is cheapest, at least eight speed, and feels best... regardless of brand.
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Old 07-07-14, 02:55 PM   #8
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It's the usual cost:benefit ratio analysis. Not everyone cares about that, but it matters a lot to me. I have a base Specialized Sirrus, and I initially went through buyer's remorse (should have paid more, maybe bought a road bike etc). But I've come to the realization that what I have is perfect for my needs: I commute daily, 5 mile round trip. When I do go on longer rides (rare), they are never more than 40 miles - and this bike has been perfectly comfortable for that. Sure, shifting can be better - but the entry level drivetrain hasn't held me back in anyway. I enjoy the ride itself, not the gear. A more expensive bike wouldn't have been better at this point in my life.

Just to add: I changed tires on my bike, and that is the only major upgrade I have done. I have since taken my bike on trails too, and I was quite comfortable except for one hard packed and extremely bumpy (not rocky) stretch.
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About bike tuneup costs... yeah that seemed like an awful lot. I live in northern virginia
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The co-ops are cheap,the clinics are free. They can at least get the bike working proper.
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About bike tuneup costs... yeah that seemed like an awful lot. I live in northern virginia and there is a well known bike trail near my house. Its probably why prices are higher. It is bizarre that they would be so high. There is a 3rd bike shop nearby too. That is 3 bikes shops with in about 5 miles. This is a rather high cost of living area.

To the guy trolling me... advice from a sales person? Seriously? It wasn't advice. He was trying to sell me something.

What do the components really mean to someone who just leisurely rides? I mean I want to put effort into to it to get my heart rate up and burn some calories, but that is about it. All I got out of the sales people were 'better components'. Does it make much of a difference? Will the shifting be that big of a deal? My current bike really needs a tune up. It does not shift well at all. Gets stuck on shifts, etc... Does a lighter bike really matter much? I'm not racing anyone?

trying to figure out if any of these higher priced things would matter to me. I pedal. Bike goes forward.
Few questions.

1. What difference do these 'components' mean to someone just going out for a ride. As far as the material, ok, thats nice, but what does it mean to someone who just pedals and goes forward?

2. The gear shifting on my current bike is terrible. Mainly due to need for a tuneup. Didn't pay for this, due to sticker shock and considering a new bike first. Do trek 7.1 7.2 or a lower end Cannondale CX gear much better than a well tuned older bike like the Bianchi Avantage?

3. Weight: I'm not racing people. Does this really matter? I weight 180. Does saving a few pounds make much of a difference? I do about a 30 mile round trip at most. I thnk if I take the trail to the end its about a 60 mile round trip. Need to build up stamina to get in better shape, does the weight make much of a difference? Going farther is a little nicer trip. Note there are stops for roads, etc... so you don't burn the whole way (I use the W&OD train in northern virginia).

4. More Gears: Current bike has 10 gears. New ones have 20 plus. Does this mean much to an average rider? I am guessing I'll probably just use a few of them most of the time right?

5. As far as price goes... saw that bluebook, etc... any place to buy bikes online and get them shipped? Prices may be alot lower. How many tools would I need to put it together. Not exactly mechanically inclined, but I can read a manual.

6. Bike fitting: ok saw some videos. I just got my bike off craigslist used and then set the seat. One of the sales pitches is they fit the bike. I have no idea if they do much fancy. One of the places charges like $300 for a proper fitting which I don't think comes with a purchase. They do some stuff. Note this is a more expensive area so prices are higher...
If you are willing to buy tools and learn to assemble a new bicycle to avoid tune up costs, why donīt you buy the tools and learn to tune up your old bicycle?
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The only upgrades to my trek 7.2 was bar ends, water bottle holder, and spd pedals, and may add a cycle computer in the near future. Couldn't be happier, and I didn't break the bank. The problem with some LBS is that they want to sell you crap. Just go in knowing what you want. I can't speak for the Cannondale CX, but if you look at the reviews for any of the Trek FX line, people seem to be happy with their purchase. If your wallet can afford it, the 7.3 or 7.4 is the best bang for the buck.
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Some dealers may sell both , but usually they are out of different shops ..

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I just bought a used 2013 7.2. I paid $300 for the bike in excellent shape. The only issue was a stammer going from 1-2 on the front derailleur. I brought it home and adjusted the cable and stop screws, and now it grabs all 24 speeds with zero drama. I LOVE this bike. It shifts effortlessly and quietly. I live on a hillside, so my entire ride is either up hill or down hill. I use a lot of the gears....so yes, having the extra gears is a very nice thing for me. If I lived on flat land, it might not be.

I can't speak for any other bike, but the 7.2 is a nice setup for the money.
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For a recreational rider, with the quality of modern components, I wouldn't hesitate buying any bike in the FX line-up (or similar line-ups from other vendors) because of the component mixes...

Lower end components might weigh a little more, and may provide fewer gears, but for me, there isn't a driving need to save a few ounces or for more than 7 speed rear clusters... It is nice to have smaller gaps between gears, but definitely not a show stopper.

In the line-ups, there may be other choices made (wider tires on lower end bikes etc, shocks vs rigid in some line-ups) that you may want to consider in deciding what is best for your planned riding, but tires are easy to change, and the 35 mm on the 7.1 FX versus 32 mm on the 7.3 FX is not enough to be a show stopper for me.

You will get better and/or lighter the more you spend, so figure out what you want to spend, and test ride bikes in that range to make your decision... There are differences you might feel, but it probably won't be because of the component mixes.
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If having a good relationship with a LBS is not important to you, then go to Nashbar (online) and get a Nashbar Flatbar Road Bike (about $400 but often on sale for less). It is basically a Trek fx.
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