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Old 07-17-14, 07:52 AM   #26
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I'm not a fan of the color scheme of the Pro, it's a really nice bike, if you can afford it. That's a personal preference...

The Pro upgrades over the Expert: Shimano 105 FD, Shimano Ultegra RD, Carbon Cranks, and Shimano SL-R780 Rapidfire Shift Levers being the main upgrades on the Pro. $750+ gets you a lot of upgrades you can do yourself. So, I went with the Expert Carbon Disc, out the box it is a sweet bike, and you can upgrade to better componets with the $750+ saved. The Pro does have better wheels, but lets be honest, we'd swap them out anyways.

I didn't notice a huge difference in the upgraded FD and RD and Shifters to warrent the extra cost, the ones on the Expert shift smoothly, and the cranks, I got a set of S-Works on order.

I swapped the Handelbars, Stem, Seatpost, and Wheels, sold them on Craigslist. Replaced with Thompson all around (even the seat clam and stem cap, meh, why not) and Mavic Wheels 700X32 (way better thant he stock 700X25) with the saved money and sold items.

The 2013 Limited was my first choice, but the LBS only had one in a small. It's a tough choice, either way you will be happy.

I got lucky as far as the Limited. The LBS (well actually not so local--about 150 miles away) has a brand new one in my size still in the box. The only other carbon Sirrus I have found is an Expert Disc at a LBS about 100 miles away, but they wont even discount it a dime even though the 2015s will be out shortly. I just think the Limited is a better value.
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Old 07-17-14, 10:01 AM   #27
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My .02

I am one of the few with the Sirrus Limited SL4 as only 300 of them were made.

If they have one in your size, buy it as fast as you can.. Don't worry about the 2013 year model designation as it's brand new in box. If you can score it for $3,200 that is a killer deal when you consider what you are getting. Di2, plenty of S-Works parts mixed in, 10r carbon frame ect. The bike MSRP was $5,000.. Mine is # 54 of 300..

I paid 3k for mine tax included and out the door with lifetime free tuneups and that was about 8 months ago (right when they were initially discounted) so maybe use that as haggling point and see if you can get them to come down some on the $3,200 price..

Even at $3,200 it's a killer bike for a killer price!

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Old 07-17-14, 06:19 PM   #28
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The 14 Carbon Sirrus bikes are not light, my Medium Expert Disc is almost 21 pds while the Sl4 Limited you are considering is 16.5 pds. Hugh difference in the bike world. I've never ridden a light bike in the 16pd range, must be quite easy to climb hills on. Test ride 1st before you fork over 3k plus.
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I got lucky as far as the Limited. The LBS (well actually not so local--about 150 miles away) has a brand new one in my size still in the box. The only other carbon Sirrus I have found is an Expert Disc at a LBS about 100 miles away, but they wont even discount it a dime even though the 2015s will be out shortly. I just think the Limited is a better value.
What have you decided to do? I've been following this thread with much interest.
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I drove the 230 miles to see the 2013 Limited SL4. What an unbelievable bike. Took it for a test ride and came to the conclusion that it was basically a road bike with a flat handle bar and if I want a road bike I should just buy one. However, I do not want a road bike. I want something a little more comfortable. A little more "hybrid." So I drove back to Miami and I went into my local bicycle shop and ordered the new 2015 Sirrus Pro Carbon. The person that owns the bike shop was out at its unveiling in California and actually rode the new 2015 and he said he really likes it. He said it was much more comfortable for him than the old model Sirrus. He is expected to get the bike towards the end of August. The good news is I get to test ride it as well and I do not have to buy it if it turns out I don't like it. He also gave me a nice discount because I had bought my wife a Pro Carbon Vita the week before.
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That 2015 Pro Carbon is going to have a couple more inches in wheelbase length vs the 2013 SL4 Limited. A big change if you're looking for comfort. My old Trek 7.5 FX had a long wheelbase, very comfortable indeed.
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That 2015 Pro Carbon is going to have a couple more inches in wheelbase length vs the 2013 SL4 Limited. A big change if you're looking for comfort. My old Trek 7.5 FX had a long wheelbase, very comfortable indeed.

I am hoping it is more comfortable. My guess is it will be. I am not a youngster anymore!
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I drove the 230 miles to see the 2013 Limited SL4. What an unbelievable bike. Took it for a test ride and came to the conclusion that it was basically a road bike with a flat handle bar and if I want a road bike I should just buy one. However, I do not want a road bike. I want something a little more comfortable. A little more "hybrid." So I drove back to Miami and I went into my local bicycle shop and ordered the new 2015 Sirrus Pro Carbon. The person that owns the bike shop was out at its unveiling in California and actually rode the new 2015 and he said he really likes it. He said it was much more comfortable for him than the old model Sirrus. He is expected to get the bike towards the end of August. The good news is I get to test ride it as well and I do not have to buy it if it turns out I don't like it. He also gave me a nice discount because I had bought my wife a Pro Carbon Vita the week before.
Thanks for the update. I'm looking forward to hearing how you like the 2015 Sirrus Pro Carbon.
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That 2015 Pro Carbon is going to have a couple more inches in wheelbase length vs the 2013 SL4 Limited. A big change if you're looking for comfort. My old Trek 7.5 FX had a long wheelbase, very comfortable indeed.
Do you have the specs / geometry on the 2015 that can be compared?

I looked on Specialized site and didn't see it listed yet.
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Do you have the specs / geometry on the 2015 that can be compared?

I looked on Specialized site and didn't see it listed yet.
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Thanks!

But is the Geometry correct?
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Thanks!

But is the Geometry correct?
I would think it now is, but who knows until the bikes show up, but ... certainly correlates with the pic. The one on the French website looks like a Large: 190mm h/t and 530mm s/t certainly correlates with that visual impression; as does 165h/t and 485s/t with the pics of what looked like a Medium that 2702 posted in another thread. The Bikerumor story on these correlates as well; I'd say Specialized got it right this time.
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Cool!

I will be very interested in hearing how people react to the X1 drivetrain on road / hybrid bike..
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I researched the X1 drivetrain a little bit. The owner of my LBS said that he thought it fit the bike well. For my needs, I think it will be fine. Not as cool or as high tech as the Di2, but I am sure it will get the job done. I am just hoping that the geometry proves to be more comfortable for me.
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I researched the X1 drivetrain a little bit. The owner of my LBS said that he thought it fit the bike well. For my needs, I think it will be fine. Not as cool or as high tech as the Di2, but I am sure it will get the job done. I am just hoping that the geometry proves to be more comfortable for me.
The X1 is an odd choice.. I guess on a mountain bike it makes sense but for road use (road / hybrid) it makes none to me..

I guess sales will tell the true story over time.. Personally there is no way I'd buy it but that's me. The whole drivetrain just looks odd.. A tiny front ring and a rear the size of a large pizza..

I will keep an eye on what people have to say about it just because I am curious..
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The X1 is an odd choice.. I guess on a mountain bike it makes sense but for road use (road / hybrid) it makes none to me..

I guess sales will tell the true story over time.. Personally there is no way I'd buy it but that's me. The whole drivetrain just looks odd.. A tiny front ring and a rear the size of a large pizza..

I will keep an eye on what people have to say about it just because I am curious..
Opinions will differ, of course. I'm not yet sure what I think, and won't be until I have a chance to actually test it out ... and I am used to the function/aesthetic of a double front/10 or 11 rear conventional drivetrain. However ...

I can most certainly see compelling arguments for 1x11 (which, by the way, is a coming thing in cyclocross as well as mountain).

1. Simplicity. Still 11 rear cogs to maintain, but only 1 front; no front derailleur.

2. Gear range is actually pretty good when one runs the numbers: 11 relatively evenly-spaced ratios ranging from a really easy hill-climbing/climb a wall one (25.7 gear inches) to a high gear (106.8 with a 28c tire on this set-up) that is as high as most non-racing cyclists ever actually (as opposed to hypothetically, or wishful-thinkingly, or blow-out-your-knees-pushing a huge gear at low cadencly) need.

3. Add 1 and 2: perfect for city/commuting use; more than adequate for most for road/distance use.

4. Does it look traditional? No. Does it conform to 'the Rules'? No. But then again, neither does the bike; the whole bike looks odd from many points of view, as does your Sirrus or mine
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Opinions will differ, of course. I'm not yet sure what I think, and won't be until I have a chance to actually test it out ... and I am used to the function/aesthetic of a double front/10 or 11 rear conventional drivetrain. However ...

I can most certainly see compelling arguments for 1x11 (which, by the way, is a coming thing in cyclocross as well as mountain).

1. Simplicity. Still 11 rear cogs to maintain, but only 1 front; no front derailleur.

2. Gear range is actually pretty good when one runs the numbers: 11 relatively evenly-spaced ratios ranging from a really easy hill-climbing/climb a wall one (25.7 gear inches) to a high gear (106.8 with a 28c tire on this set-up) that is as high as most non-racing cyclists ever actually (as opposed to hypothetically, or wishful-thinkingly, or blow-out-your-knees-pushing a huge gear at low cadencly) need.

3. Add 1 and 2: perfect for city/commuting use; more than adequate for most for road/distance use.

4. Does it look traditional? No. Does it conform to 'the Rules'? No. But then again, neither does the bike; the whole bike looks odd from many points of view, as does your Sirrus or mine
I agree with a lot of what you say and I see your points...

But to me the bikes drivetrain is probably best suited to beginner type bikes.. Less to maintain, ease of use, no need to worry about cross chaining ect..

Not many people wanting to spend 3K on a flatbar road bike are looking at or for an X1 drivetrain in my opinion.. Most of the people wanting to drop that kind of cash for a flatbar bike want road components / drivetrain..

If this drivetrain was on the lower end bikes I'd get it, I really would. Putting it on the high end model in my opinion is a mistake..
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I concur....... they should have stuck with a 2 or3 ring setup on the front. Personally, I like the triple with a 9 spd. on a Hybrid.
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