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    COMFORTABLE GRIPS. Opinions, recommendations, new ideas and designs.

    Hey all. I'm trying to upgrade my comfort little bit during my long rides. Tried quite a few different types, and I know there is something much more comfortable out there. I prefer bar ends for extra position. They don't need to be integrated with grips.

    What's your best grips? How long can you ride without feeling discomfort? Please share links and articles.

    Here is my current setup.
    Carbon bar ends and Ritchey WCS True Grip. Grips are ok...they are comfy for most rides, but anything over 50 is not too comfortable. Their weight is a plus...Almost nothing.



    These were OEM Specialized Enduro on my Specialized Crosstrail. I was surprised how comfortable these are, but again, after 20-30 miles it was a struggle.



    Later changed to Ritchey WCS Ergo true. Much better grips than OEM, but they are looking way more comfortable than they really are. Did few 100+ miles with these, but at some point I was switching my hand position often, and using bar ends more and more.



    These are my current ones Ritchey WCS True grips. Similar to previous ones, but I think little more comfortable. Still quite not good enough for 100+ mile rides.



    These are the ones I wanted to try. There is a couple of sizes, and plus a few sizes of bar ends. They felt very comfortable when I checked them at the store. Anyone using these Ergon GP3-L or GP3-S?



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    I did consider the Ergon GP3-L or GP3-S and they do look the business but haven't used them. I am currently using these which came fitted to my bike and are very good, offering different hand positions. They also have the added bonus of the locking clamp for secure fitment and easy removal when required.

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    More tech info here Specialized Targa Grip/Bar End

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    My Trek 8.4 came with the "flappy paddle" grips as standard and I've added some BBB Ergostik Small (BBE-16 - Bar ends - BBB). Nice and unobtrusive and I reckon i generally spend about 90% of the time on them ( road, trail ). That being said longest I've ever done on the DS is around 50km.

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    I have some of those ergon with integrated bar ends. I like the much better than the round grips I had before...but I don't ride anywhere near 50-100 miles at a time, so these may not be much better. I also have put a set of aero bars on my hybrid, so that gives me a third position.

    Honestly, if I was going to ride 100 miles, I would get a road bike with drop bars. At some point, body ergonomics play a bigger role. Riding with your palms down simply puts more stress on your fore-arms than riding palms facing each other (as in riding on hoods). Over longer rides, that matters more and more. That's probably why you like the bar ends...it's the same hand position, except that bar ends are generally less comfortable than road bike hoods, AND, on a hybrid, they are too wide to be comfortable long-term.

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    I have Ergon GP2 on a Bike Friday and GP3 on a Dahon, both are good but GP3 is slightly better with longer bar end. I rode the BF for 80 miles without any issue. Bought a Specialized Sirrus recently but never really like the grips, will likely change to a GP4 or GP5 soon!

    But previous poster probably correct in pointing out drop bar is far more comfortable for long ride.
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    I've got a pair of Ergon GP5's on my DS, and they're fantastic. Have not done more than 30 miles, but they are certainly a comfy 30 miles

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    I love my Ergon GP2 grips I put on Fuji Absolute. If you get a set, I recommend carrying a cycling multitool with you on the first couple of rides (not that you shouldn't always have a multitool with you) so you can make minor adjustments to them while riding until you get their positioning dialed in exactly as you want them.

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    I have Ergon GP-1s on one bike, and Specialized version of the same thing on another. The Specialized are very slightly softer, and it makes a difference. The Specialized ones offer the same wrist support, and are more gentle on my hands. Specialized wins. Another advantage of Specialized, is that they come in colors. A disadvantage of the integrated Ergons, is the fact that they don't allow a Mountain Myrricle on the end.

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    I've also got some longish aluminum, Origin 8, or Performance house brand(Forte) on one bike, and they have served me well. However, on my Sirrus, I put Specialized Composite, P2, I think, which are similar to the short bar end you have now. They are not as obtrusive as the long bar ends, offer me a couple more hand positions, light, and comfortable. Again, Specialized wins MHO.

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    Don't forget to slap a Mountain Myrricle on there while you are changing things, and point the first arm straight forward to tighten up the wideness...... I really like my Mountain Myrricles, as they offer an outstanding view to the rear - I won't have a bike without them!
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    I just use regular round Kraton grips. $7-$15 anywhere. Kraton is soft and tacky. These are made in many different patterns and durometer combinations. They also come in different thicknesses; thick kraton - something like an old Yeti hardcore - is very cushy.

    I never understood the paddle grips. Ive never had a comfort issue with round kraton grips in 25 years of mountain biking. Years of years of AutoCAD has given me carpal tunnel on both wrists yet I still use round grips with no problems. My rides are usually 3-5 hours of nonstop hard effort.

    That "111 degree" image is not a "traditional grip position," and it does not require their product to rectify. All I see it doing is limiting the wrist rotation, which might inhibit some bike maneuvers (traditional bunny hopping, for example)

    In general, my perception of these ergo integrated grips is: too much plastic, too gimmicky, and too expensive. The only advantage I see is that they lock, so in a deluge your grips dont spin

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    The point of the Ergon-style grips is partly to give a larger surface area for the base of your palm, but also to enforce the right wrist position. (I just noticed the OP's graphic shows this. It's not quite as ideal as in that picture because the reliance on friction can feel a little odd.)

    While I have the GX2 with miniature bar ends, I believe the GX1 or GP1 would be fine for rides of any length. I've done 40 miles with no hand issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DorkDisk View Post
    I just use regular round Kraton grips. $7-$15 anywhere. Kraton is soft and tacky. These are made in many different patterns and durometer combinations. They also come in different thicknesses; thick kraton - something like an old Yeti hardcore - is very cushy.

    I never understood the paddle grips. Ive never had a comfort issue with round kraton grips in 25 years of mountain biking. Years of years of AutoCAD has given me carpal tunnel on both wrists yet I still use round grips with no problems. My rides are usually 3-5 hours of nonstop hard effort.

    That "111 degree" image is not a "traditional grip position," and it does not require their product to rectify. All I see it doing is limiting the wrist rotation, which might inhibit some bike maneuvers (traditional bunny hopping, for example)

    In general, my perception of these ergo integrated grips is: too much plastic, too gimmicky, and too expensive. The only advantage I see is that they lock, so in a deluge your grips dont spin
    Fair enough, but really this amounts to demonstrating (yet again) that everyone's preferences are different. My experience has been quite different: when I resumed cycling (on and off road) in 2002, I used conventional grips for first three or so years. No end of problems with my hands; I tried everything: thinner/thicker, harder/softer compound ... all to no avail. I bought Ergons when they first came out, set them up as suggested, and that was it ... problems gone. I've used nothing but since then -- have them on my 'road' bike (with flat bars/bar ends) and on my mtb (riser bar). By the way, I've no problem bunny-hopping or manualing with them!

    @Lopek, I say try them (or similar) out. There are knock-offs available, e.g. the Specialized ones. Some, like Wanderer above, prefer those because of the softer compound; I tried them (they came with my Sirrus) and don't like them at all -- I prefer the harder compound of the Ergons. Similarly, I can't stand overly-padded saddles. Everyone's preferences are different.
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    My 7.4 FX has the paddle style grips, and have found so far that it does seem to help w/overall comfort on longer rides and allows for more variety in hand positions than a standard grip. I had bar ends on my last bike, and not sure that I'll them on my 7.4.

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    Most comfortable grips- Specialized Sirrus ones on the Comp and higher up models
    Bar ends- these from Performance bike- Forté Kor Bar Ends

    Thats my favorite combination for grips.
    But for costs savings I just bought these for my new bike- 29.99 shipped from the bay- Ergon GP4 Ergo Bike L s Grips w Angle Adjustable Bar End Mountain Hybrid | eBay
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    Quote Originally Posted by lopek77 View Post
    Hey all. I'm trying to upgrade my comfort little bit during my long rides. Tried quite a few different types, and I know there is something much more comfortable out there. I prefer bar ends for extra position. They don't need to be integrated with grips.

    What's your best grips? How long can you ride without feeling discomfort? Please share links and articles.

    Here is my current setup.
    Carbon bar ends and Ritchey WCS True Grip. Grips are ok...they are comfy for most rides, but anything over 50 is not too comfortable. Their weight is a plus...Almost nothing.



    These were OEM Specialized Enduro on my Specialized Crosstrail. I was surprised how comfortable these are, but again, after 20-30 miles it was a struggle.



    Later changed to Ritchey WCS Ergo true. Much better grips than OEM, but they are looking way more comfortable than they really are. Did few 100+ miles with these, but at some point I was switching my hand position often, and using bar ends more and more.



    These are my current ones Ritchey WCS True grips. Similar to previous ones, but I think little more comfortable. Still quite not good enough for 100+ mile rides.



    These are the ones I wanted to try. There is a couple of sizes, and plus a few sizes of bar ends. They felt very comfortable when I checked them at the store. Anyone using these Ergon GP3-L or GP3-S?



    http://www.ergon-bike.com/us/en/home
    this is what I use .. the GP3 , I Often spread out My Hands on top of the grip and the bar end . so I'm not really gripping , per se.
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    I have the Ergon GP3 grips on my Giant Escape and they are wonderful. They offer me several extra hand positions and the grips can be adjusted independent of the short barends. I can ride for a good 25 minutes without the need to switch hand positions which is saying alot for my 72 year old body. I spent several months tweaking my bike with adjustments and accessories to get it really comfortable and the Ergon grips and Brooks B17 saddle made me one happy rider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddy Wags View Post
    I have the Ergon GP3 grips on my Giant Escape and they are wonderful. They offer me several extra hand positions and the grips can be adjusted independent of the short barends. I can ride for a good 25 minutes without the need to switch hand positions which is saying alot for my 72 year old body. I spent several months tweaking my bike with adjustments and accessories to get it really comfortable and the Ergon grips and Brooks B17 saddle made me one happy rider.
    I have both ERGON GP3 and Brooks B17 Select saddle on a Dahon, wonderful products.

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    My Trek has the standard Isozone system which I find really comfortable. Same basic geometry as the Ergons minus the bar ends, i've found they really make a difference after a long ride.


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    I have GP3's and they are soooo much better than the round grips I had before. Gives me hand position options which has become a big deal to me after I get past 25 miles or so.

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    It is misguided to think you are limited to 2 or 3 hand positions on a hybrid. With my Ergon GP3's I use 7 different hand positions. Granted there are only subtle differences, but comfort wise they can be significant.
    My latest and greatest is resting the heel of my hand on the flat wing of the Ergon grip and spanning the fingers across to the short barends.....simply resting the hands across the top of the grips. After riding hard, this position is very relaxing to both hands and arms.
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    Looks like Ergon GP3 or "ergon like" designs are the most comfortable grips on the market.
    Anyone out there with long time / long distance experience?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lopek77 View Post
    Looks like Ergon GP3 or "ergon like" designs are the most comfortable grips on the market.
    Anyone out there with long time / long distance experience?
    @Lopek,

    Yes ... re. time, see my post above. Re. distance ... well, I think so. During our cycling season (Aprilish through November/Decemberish) I routinely do a 50+ mile ride at least once a week; these sometimes extend to 60+ miles. In addition, I've done three centuries (100+ miles, not kms) over the years. Not much by some people's standards (or claimed standards), but hey ... they're my miles!
    All of this using some form of flat-bar w/Ergons -- some of these rides with bar-ends, some without. As I said above, since switching to Ergons years ago I've had no issues re. hand/arm/shoulder discomfort.
    That's just me, of course, so just one example, for what that's worth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badger1 View Post
    @Lopek,

    Yes ... re. time, see my post above. Re. distance ... well, I think so. During our cycling season (Aprilish through November/Decemberish) I routinely do a 50+ mile ride at least once a week; these sometimes extend to 60+ miles. In addition, I've done three centuries (100+ miles, not kms) over the years. Not much by some people's standards (or claimed standards), but hey ... they're my miles!
    All of this using some form of flat-bar w/Ergons -- some of these rides with bar-ends, some without. As I said above, since switching to Ergons years ago I've had no issues re. hand/arm/shoulder discomfort.
    That's just me, of course, so just one example, for what that's worth.
    Ok...I'm sold on Ergons lol
    I also saw GP5 version today, and this one gives additional hand position at the very top, for more upright sitting... I bet it's very practical and comfy, but seems to be a little too big for my liking.

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    ^^^^^^ I have used those before and found them too big and as for looks also too big.
    I went with one lower the Ergon GP4 except they dont have a bolt to lock them on the bar only the bar end part, other than that they feel excellent.
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    I just found out that my bar ends were positioned in a very bad way for the last 2 years. Easy adjustment gave me a huge relief to my old wrists. It's like with bike fit, where half an inch difference, can make a 30 mile ride a pleasure, or a pain.

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