I've just decided to get another road bike after a 15 year break. I've had two previous bikes. I used to commute and ride in an informal club. I came to the forum to find out what happened to suicide brake levers. Got all the background on that now, by doing a quick search, so thanks for the help. I've looked at new bikes. They've changed a lot since my last one. Not sure I want carbon fiber though. I saw some new Raleigh bikes on their web page designed for a more upright posture, but still with bull-horn h/bars. I'm going to find a dealer and check them out.