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Old 01-09-14, 03:06 PM   #1
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The New Monkey In Town.

Greetings all,
I've been out of the sport for many years and am seriously thinking about getting back on the road.

I still have my bikes, but they are now considered "Vintage". So I'm not sure how practical it is to get back on the road.
I hope to use this thread as a place to document my my intentions with those machines and get some feedback. I'll be posting on what I plan to do to each in a little bit.
In addition, it seems that the tech has changes so much from when those bikes were new (mid-lat 1980s) I almost HAVE to build a new machine if I'm going to ride on a regular basis.

I would post more about me, but my bikes are far more interesting.

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The Peugeot Ventoux PH501.
I'm the original owner of this bike. It is the blue paint version from 1986(?). It is in parts at this time, but they all there, well mostly...

Issues:
1. I have the original wheel, and they are still in good shape, and almost usable - except for the helicomatic read hub. As far as I'm concerned, the rear wheel is dead to me <Monkey turns his back on the wheel and walks away>
2. Removal of the bottom bracket did not not go quite as planned, and the thread have damaged.
3. Oh, and I was going to custom paint the frame - so the frame is fine, but the paint is not. This is why I stripped the frame in the first place, and was an effort to go tit-for-tat with a friend who was proud of his custom painted fat tubed Cannondale.

Plans:
1. Use one of my other other 126mm wheels. If I can source a decent 126mm rear hub, rebuild the wheel around that. I'll also need a new freewheel, but I'll get to that in a minute.
2. Replace the original BB with a threadless from Velo Orange.
3. Finish the re-paint. Actually, I'll probably simply remove all of the pain, and clear coat the bare Cr-Mo frame.
4. Replace all of the wear items - cables, bar tape, tires, ya' know the usual things.

Future of the Bike:
I want to restore this to be road worthy but dedicate it to wind trainer use. Eventually rebuild the original read wheel and dedicate that to this machine. (The front is still good). I have the original toe clip pedals, but will replace with clipless pedals - actually, I want to have identical pedals on both bikes and a third (I want to build a new one to modern spec).

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Old 01-09-14, 03:43 PM   #4
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10 Wheels,
I found this forum via the Vintage section as part of my research into some of the issues that I'm posting below. I found some good and interesting info out there.
Please don't say "Century" to me now... I used to ride centuries on a regular basis, but it pains me to thing about that with my age and current condition... The word makes me feel like Fred Sanford: "Oh, this is the big one! You hear that, Elizabeth?! I'm coming to join you, honey!"

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The Vitus 979.
I'm the original owner of this bike as well. It is a custom build on a 979 frame. For those of you 979 fans, it's a 1988 (?) model with grub screw seat post binder, size 57 as I remember (need to check the frame to confirm). It is the white painted option. From my research, I seem to be the only one who bought one in white. It has some road grime, but is nearly perfect despite thousands of road miles.
It is equipped with:
Cinelli Bars and stem with Scott tri-geek add on.
Vette saddle (white) and Campy Chorus aero profile seat post
Campy C-Record derailleurs front and rear and C-Record "RetroFriction" levers (Tried the indexing - didn't like them).
Campy Chorus cranks - No built in extractor and with curved arms, yes the very early Chorus cranks!
Dia Comp Royal Gram Comp brakes in matching white.
Regina American Superleggera 7 Speed freewheel (12-20 tooth as I remember) with matching hollow pin chain.
I even have a Uni wheel cover for the rear - and I think I still have all of the clips.
Wheels:
Set 1: Araya CTL 370s on Chorus hubs. I think they are both 23 hole / 3 cross.
Set 2: Mavic GEL 280 (front) / Mavic GL330 (rear) on Campy Super Record (1988) hubs. The rear is a 32 hole / 3 cross, and front is a 28 hole / 2 cross (well it is supposed to be - I never did finish the build up on the front - just need spokes).
Other bits include Cinelli cork tape, 4 Blackburn water bottle cages, two of which are mounted behind the saddle...
All of which is in good near perfect condition, heck I should still have the original paperwork for all. I *may* actually have the original packaging somewhere.
Mavic Look compatible pedals (I have the period Look mesh shoes still)

Issues:
1. The freewheel slips randomly - I think it may be a worn pawl.
2. Not really an issue, but at some point I would like to get period C-Record cranks (with the hidden ring bolt on the spider) and brakes (as I remember they had a non-delta C-record brake set. I always wanted a complete group. Maybe get the period Chorus derailleurs and put them on the Peugeot. A period Campy disk wheel would be nice as well.
3. Complete the build of the Mavic Super Record wheel. I probably won't use these much - they are tubulars - which I learned to hate. Not to mention having put on a bit of weight since I specced these out, so I'm not sure if a should use them - at least until I get into better shape.

Plans:
1. I'll have to get the freewheel serviced and hope that it has some life left in it. I would like to get a second (or third) freewheel, but it seems there are few options. I did find some Sun Race freewheels that I may pick up for this and for use on the Peugeot. I need to keep the original wheels since I can't re-set the Al frame and don't want to risk springing it to 130mm. I wonder if it would be possible to grind down 2mm from the inside of each of the rear drop outs... but I would rather keep it in original condition.Use one of my other other 126mm wheels. If I can source a decent 126mm rear hub, rebuild the wheel around that. I'll also need a new freewheel, but I'll get to that in a minute.
2. If I can find the pieces that I want at decent prices, I'll consider buying, but none of it is critical.
3. The wheel build will make for a decent winter project, I'll have to look into this and seem if my father is planning on using the truing stand... or maybe let him do the build - he has become fascinated by wheel building recently.

Future of the Bike:
If I can get the freewheel issues sorted, then I just need new tires and tubes and she should be road worthy and ready for some riding come spring time.
And as I mentioned, I would update the pedals to current models. I would prefer to use identical pedals to the Peugeot and a potential new machine.

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TBD.
Since my bikes are old tech, it seems that I really should build a new on with current tech. Although both should be road worthy, I would be happier to have modern hardware. I don't want to have to troll the Bay every time I have to shop the bike.

I'm leaning more towards the TT/Tri style bike. I don't need UCI compliance, and tri bikes seem more to my style - long distance, decent speed and don't need to leave it all on the road, unless I'm in that mood. Well, honestly, because I can. I admit that some of the options are more subjective and driven by emotions rather than logic. But that is really my prerogative. Which is why I want to use Campy.
I want to measure the Vitus and try to built a machine with similar geometries (including optionals like saddle placement and stem reach). In that way I can switch between the two on a whim with ease.

I have no time line for this. I'm sure that if I have any issues with the Vitus this spring that force me to start the frustration of searching for vintage gear my time line may change.

Any feed back on my plans would be appreciated. Especially if you have some ideas on non-eBay sources for some of the vintage gear.
I think that breaks down my current thinking. I'll try to update this thread as I research my options, and hopefully get back on the road. But so much may depend on what happens with work... as a consultant I may be traveling a lot, and taking a bike with me may not be possible.

P.S. I'm not sure if I know where my Chorus and Super Record skewers are. I may need to hunt down replacements and would prefer the correct ones as opposed to third party skewers. But any skewer will do in reality.

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Bike tech becomes "vintage" very quickly. I'm pretty sure my 2007 mountain bike is considered vintage now. Still rides like a dream though. My point is your vintage bikes might still be all kinds of awesome.
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Awesome? Well the Peugeot isn't that awesome, but it was my first real road bike. Prior to that I had one of those ubiquitous Huffy ten speeds - One of those 40 pound brutes that all the kids had. The Vitus is probably comparable to the Sean Kelly (Green Jersey) machines of the time. The stock weight of the Peugeot was 22 pounds and if I remember correctly, the Vitus, when stripped of the geek bars and other extras was 17 to 18 pounds.

I was just on the phone with the local bike shop about getting that freewheel serviced - and it may just be a dead duck, they don't work on that ancient stuff. They also confirmed that I cannot get the frame cold set or even spring it over a 130 hub would not be possible. The guy on the other side of town (with no people skills) did at least offer to look at the free wheel - so I might be able to get it fixed

So it looks like I'm going to pick up a couple of the Sun Race free wheels, and if I can save the Regina - dedicate that to the Mavic Gel280/GL330 over Super Record wheel set. So it won't get much use (I hate tubulars).

A bit frustrating over all, but I kinda enjoy geeking out over these issues, but that is just me.
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I'd say fix the bike that easiest to get on the road and then RIDE. It's better to ride a not-so-perfect bike than to look at them and not ride at all.
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I've been away for a while... Been a bit chaotic here, or there... not sure, I was in PA, now I'm in AZ.

I've actually had a chance to start work on my latest project, which I have started calling "Mud Monkey".

More on that later. I just wanted to pop in and say hello again quickly.

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