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robabeatle 03-01-13 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Racer Ex (Post 15331493)
3/4 week blocks, focusing on different macro needs. Think full on periodized "A" race program, shrink it, add in some other work. Repeat. For someone who's not close to potentialized it's yielded very good results.

I get the four week blocks. What it sounds like you are saying is that each week of that block you are doing something different. Week one: Longer Threshold rides. Week two: 2 x 20s. Week Three: 3 x 8, etc. Is that right?

edit: Oh and I dont think that Ive earned the right to be a smart ass, jsut yet. : )

jsutkeepspining 03-01-13 04:11 PM

lolz i like the subtle hit towards me being a smart ass :thumb:

robabeatle 03-01-13 04:19 PM

; )

milliron 03-01-13 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by newjunior (Post 15325780)
1. Cat 5 almost 4
2. 16, racing age 17
3. 2 years, plus like 4 years recreationally.

Wish I started at your age.

I'd suggest doing as many group rides and races as you can. Get better at riding with and talking to other people. Networking is a critical skill for life in general.

shovelhd 03-01-13 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by robabeatle (Post 15332780)
I get the four week blocks. What it sounds like you are saying is that each week of that block you are doing something different. Week one: Longer Threshold rides. Week two: 2 x 20s. Week Three: 3 x 8, etc. Is that right?

edit: Oh and I dont think that Ive earned the right to be a smart ass, jsut yet. : )

Sort of.

ericm979 03-01-13 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by milliron (Post 15332993)
Wish I started at your age.

Same here. My dad even offered to buy me a racing bike in a futile attempt to distract me from motorcycles.

jsutkeepspining 03-01-13 05:24 PM

ride w/ people, learn hwo to race your bike. You'll get fast quick by racing a lot. Find someone who is local in your area to coach you over someone on the internet. The coaching aspect can then be both workout based as well as watching you race (i had a local ex-pro/1 as my coach up until this week when he chose to stop coaching due to lack of time and the need to spend more time with his family. He tought me a lot more about racing than just how to workout. I attribute most of my success (if you can even call it success) to his teachings. He was the once to teach me to ride within inches of people without caring, bumb tires, bumb shoulders, corner through things while being pushed, ect).

I would say stick to cat 5 races, no reason to get the **** kicked out of you by the local 18 year old 1/2. you will get fast quickly, and start doing wel in races in no time. Juniors have that great ability to learn this quickly, and gain fitness unbelievably fast.

rkwaki 03-01-13 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jsutkeepspining (Post 15333066)
ride w/ people, learn hwo to race your bike. You'll get fast quick by racing a lot. Find someone who is local in your area to coach you over someone on the internet. The coaching aspect can then be both workout based as well as watching you race (i had a local ex-pro/1 as my coach up until this week when he chose to stop coaching due to lack of time and the need to spend more time with his family. He tought me a lot more about racing than just how to workout. I attribute most of my success (if you can even call it success) to his teachings. He was the once to teach me to ride within inches of people without caring, bumb tires, bumb shoulders, corner through things while being pushed, ect).

I would say stick to cat 5 races, no reason to get the **** kicked out of you by the local 18 year old 1/2. you will get fast quickly, and start doing wel in races in no time. Juniors have that great ability to learn this quickly, and gain fitness unbelievably fast.

Too bad he didn't teach you to spell...

haha


Good points though.

newjunior 03-01-13 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by topflightpro (Post 15330675)
OP, also, remember to use Junior Gears.

A junior joined our team this year, and none of us thought to mention to him that he needed junior gearing or even explain what it was - he is racing on a bike given to him by one of the guys on the team.

He got DQ'd in his first race. Actually, the top three juniors (of which he was third and probably three laps down on the first two) got DQ'd.

Yup! I'm set with 52x14

jsutkeepspining 03-01-13 09:52 PM

learn to spin. Once you get to the big boy leagues you'll need it. 120 rpms for a long time is not unheard of, and responding to attacks at 130+ is very common.

newjunior 03-02-13 01:56 PM

LTHR test: 173

bikr13 03-02-13 02:40 PM

I started racing at about the same age, I'm 20 now, and you should learn a ton in the next year of racing. Race the category races, but don't shy away from the junior races. You will get dropped quite a bit at first but thats part of bike racing. By the time I got out of junior racing I was having a lot of fun in those races, even though they are pretty much 1/2 races with constant attacking.

As far as a coach, definitely try to get one that is local who can help you learn how to race. The skills of knowing how to race will be what you will really value in the long run. Try and find a local grassroots junior team that you can get on who will give you guys to ride and race with and possibly insight on who coaches other juniors in your area.

Don't freak out about your training right now, I've seen too many friends and other juniors get burnt out in this sport because of overtraining as a beginning junior.

Go race and have fun.

getaklug 03-03-13 10:20 PM

Motivation problems:

Dedication is a *****

Fat Boy 03-03-13 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by newjunior (Post 15335705)
LTHR test: 173

You didn't ride it hard enough. Go do it again and ride harder. At your age, I bet it's closer to 190. It varies from person to person...I could be wrong, but if I were a betting man, I'd bet your 173 number is low.

kensuf 03-04-13 09:36 AM

Be my couch.

shovelhd 03-04-13 09:41 AM

Ewww

kensuf 03-04-13 12:46 PM

This forum needs more couch threads!

Jandro 03-04-13 12:58 PM

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Enthalpic 03-04-13 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Boy (Post 15341052)
You didn't ride it hard enough. Go do it again and ride harder. At your age, I bet it's closer to 190. It varies from person to person...I could be wrong, but if I were a betting man, I'd bet your 173 number is low.

Juniors often lack sufficient muscle mass / muscular endurance to fully tax their aerobic systems and their LTHRs end up a lower than what you would expect based on their presumably high MHR.

jsutkeepspining 03-04-13 01:52 PM

excuse me, i dont think i lack muscle mass or muscular endurance :p

caloso 03-04-13 02:05 PM

I think Couch hangs out in Foo.

kensuf 03-04-13 02:09 PM

I think our new watcher is going to be OK.

rkwaki 03-04-13 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kensuf (Post 15343583)
I think our new watcher is going to be OK.

I'll test 'em

caloso 03-04-13 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kensuf (Post 15343583)
I think our new watcher is going to be OK.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

rkwaki 03-04-13 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by caloso (Post 15343727)
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Is that Russian???

:)


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