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Old 03-01-13, 04:04 PM   #51
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3/4 week blocks, focusing on different macro needs. Think full on periodized "A" race program, shrink it, add in some other work. Repeat. For someone who's not close to potentialized it's yielded very good results.
I get the four week blocks. What it sounds like you are saying is that each week of that block you are doing something different. Week one: Longer Threshold rides. Week two: 2 x 20s. Week Three: 3 x 8, etc. Is that right?

edit: Oh and I dont think that Ive earned the right to be a smart ass, jsut yet. : )
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Old 03-01-13, 04:11 PM   #52
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lolz i like the subtle hit towards me being a smart ass
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1. Cat 5 almost 4
2. 16, racing age 17
3. 2 years, plus like 4 years recreationally.
Wish I started at your age.

I'd suggest doing as many group rides and races as you can. Get better at riding with and talking to other people. Networking is a critical skill for life in general.
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I get the four week blocks. What it sounds like you are saying is that each week of that block you are doing something different. Week one: Longer Threshold rides. Week two: 2 x 20s. Week Three: 3 x 8, etc. Is that right?

edit: Oh and I dont think that Ive earned the right to be a smart ass, jsut yet. : )
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Old 03-01-13, 05:18 PM   #56
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Wish I started at your age.
Same here. My dad even offered to buy me a racing bike in a futile attempt to distract me from motorcycles.
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ride w/ people, learn hwo to race your bike. You'll get fast quick by racing a lot. Find someone who is local in your area to coach you over someone on the internet. The coaching aspect can then be both workout based as well as watching you race (i had a local ex-pro/1 as my coach up until this week when he chose to stop coaching due to lack of time and the need to spend more time with his family. He tought me a lot more about racing than just how to workout. I attribute most of my success (if you can even call it success) to his teachings. He was the once to teach me to ride within inches of people without caring, bumb tires, bumb shoulders, corner through things while being pushed, ect).

I would say stick to cat 5 races, no reason to get the **** kicked out of you by the local 18 year old 1/2. you will get fast quickly, and start doing wel in races in no time. Juniors have that great ability to learn this quickly, and gain fitness unbelievably fast.
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ride w/ people, learn hwo to race your bike. You'll get fast quick by racing a lot. Find someone who is local in your area to coach you over someone on the internet. The coaching aspect can then be both workout based as well as watching you race (i had a local ex-pro/1 as my coach up until this week when he chose to stop coaching due to lack of time and the need to spend more time with his family. He tought me a lot more about racing than just how to workout. I attribute most of my success (if you can even call it success) to his teachings. He was the once to teach me to ride within inches of people without caring, bumb tires, bumb shoulders, corner through things while being pushed, ect).

I would say stick to cat 5 races, no reason to get the **** kicked out of you by the local 18 year old 1/2. you will get fast quickly, and start doing wel in races in no time. Juniors have that great ability to learn this quickly, and gain fitness unbelievably fast.
Too bad he didn't teach you to spell...

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Good points though.
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OP, also, remember to use Junior Gears.

A junior joined our team this year, and none of us thought to mention to him that he needed junior gearing or even explain what it was - he is racing on a bike given to him by one of the guys on the team.

He got DQ'd in his first race. Actually, the top three juniors (of which he was third and probably three laps down on the first two) got DQ'd.
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learn to spin. Once you get to the big boy leagues you'll need it. 120 rpms for a long time is not unheard of, and responding to attacks at 130+ is very common.
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I started racing at about the same age, I'm 20 now, and you should learn a ton in the next year of racing. Race the category races, but don't shy away from the junior races. You will get dropped quite a bit at first but thats part of bike racing. By the time I got out of junior racing I was having a lot of fun in those races, even though they are pretty much 1/2 races with constant attacking.

As far as a coach, definitely try to get one that is local who can help you learn how to race. The skills of knowing how to race will be what you will really value in the long run. Try and find a local grassroots junior team that you can get on who will give you guys to ride and race with and possibly insight on who coaches other juniors in your area.

Don't freak out about your training right now, I've seen too many friends and other juniors get burnt out in this sport because of overtraining as a beginning junior.

Go race and have fun.
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LTHR test: 173
You didn't ride it hard enough. Go do it again and ride harder. At your age, I bet it's closer to 190. It varies from person to person...I could be wrong, but if I were a betting man, I'd bet your 173 number is low.
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This forum needs more couch threads!
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You didn't ride it hard enough. Go do it again and ride harder. At your age, I bet it's closer to 190. It varies from person to person...I could be wrong, but if I were a betting man, I'd bet your 173 number is low.
Juniors often lack sufficient muscle mass / muscular endurance to fully tax their aerobic systems and their LTHRs end up a lower than what you would expect based on their presumably high MHR.
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excuse me, i dont think i lack muscle mass or muscular endurance
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I think Couch hangs out in Foo.
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I think our new watcher is going to be OK.
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