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    1900 Tram Ride Through England

    Hereís another good video on how the carfree life was over 100 years ago. Unlike the other videos I posted, this one really shows what it was like to live without motor traffic. There are NO cars at all and itís strange watching the tram travel without seeing any parked cars!

    What really surprises me is watching all the children playing in the streets. Unless thereís a street fair where the blocks are corded off, youíll never see anything like this. I really feel children today will never know what it was to just play in the streets without the fear of getting struck by motor traffic.

    Youíll see a small number of cyclist in the movie which was to be expected. However, if this was 1900, the price of a bicycle was almost as much as a motorcycle or more! Thereís even a man teaching his son to ride a bicycle right in front of the tram!

    Itís refreshing to see the potential possibilities.

    https://youtu.be/UxrTfLn_Nv8

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    Great video, Steve, thanks for posting. This was the epitome of non-automotive transportation. London was the largest and wealthiest city in the world at the time, and was functioning very well without cars.

    People on this forum will be quick to say that the cities were choking on horse manure, but that is nowhere evident in this video (mainly because it isn't true!) People here will also talk about how horrible living conditions were at the time. Maybe so, but that had absolutely nothing to do with the absence of cars. The people in this video look reasonably clean and happy, and they're noticeably fitter and peppier than their modern counterparts.


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    that is a great piece of history. Was the guy riding a bike at 3:00 in drunk or just learning to ride?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TickDoc View Post
    that is a great piece of history. Was the guy riding a bike at 3:00 in drunk or just learning to ride?
    I wondered the same thing!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roody View Post
    Great video, Steve, thanks for posting. This was the epitome of non-automotive transportation. London was the largest and wealthiest city in the world at the time, and was functioning very well without cars.

    People on this forum will be quick to say that the cities were choking on horse manure, but that is nowhere evident in this video (mainly because it isn't true!) People here will also talk about how horrible living conditions were at the time. Maybe so, but that had absolutely nothing to do with the absence of cars. The people in this video look reasonably clean and happy, and they're noticeably fitter and peppier than their modern counterparts.
    +100000000

    I also want to add that even though the roads looked in bad shape, it didn't matter because the tram was on smooth rails. Cities did not need to spend millions fixing roads because there was no need. We are all paying for the never ending repavement of local roads through property taxes or rent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dahon.Steve View Post
    I also want to add that even though the roads looked in bad shape, it didn't matter because the tram was on smooth rails. Cities did not need to spend millions fixing roads because there was no need. We are all paying for the never ending repavement of local roads through property taxes or rent.
    Roads have to be smoother when you are travelling at 40-60 than 4-6 mph. People's expectations were lower. Go out in the country and you'd find deep ruts in the mud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artkansas View Post
    Roads have to be smoother when you are travelling at 40-60 than 4-6 mph. People's expectations were lower. Go out in the country and you'd find deep ruts in the mud.
    I am aware of the poor condition of our roads. I ride the buses each day and they take a pounding on the roads and sometimes the shock is so great, going over the pot holes sound like an explosion! If we still had the trolleys, this would not be an issue but our roads today especially in cities look very similar to this video.

    In 1900, we had smooth and comfortable public transit. I can tell you right now we have lost that with the bus!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dahon.Steve View Post
    I am aware of the poor condition of our roads. I ride the buses each day and they take a pounding on the roads and sometimes the shock often is so great, going over the pot holes sound like an explosion! If we still had the trolleys, this would not be an issue because our roads today especially in cities look very similar to this video.

    In 1900, we had smooth and comfortable public transit. I can tell you right now we have lost that with the bus!
    Must be a regional thing. I ride the bus here without any drama over bumps in the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter S View Post
    Must be a regional thing. I ride the bus here without any drama over bumps in the road.
    Yes, and you mentioned on another thread that the roads are great where you live. You're very fortunate! You probably have competent state and local governments that understand the importance of funding good travel infrastructure.

    But I have to tell you that this is not the case in most of the USA. In many states, roads have been neglected at least since the Great Recession, and many even decades before that. Here in Michigan, for example, we had the best roads in the world in the last century. Today, they are little better than Swiss cheese.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roody View Post
    Yes, and you mentioned on another thread that the roads are great where you live. You're very fortunate! You probably have competent state and local governments that understand the importance of funding good travel infrastructure.

    But I have to tell you that this is not the case in most of the USA. In many states, roads have been neglected at least since the Great Recession, and many even decades before that. Here in Michigan, for example, we had the best roads in the world in the last century. Today, they are little better than Swiss cheese.
    Our roads are definitely not as tasty as yours!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter S View Post
    Our roads are definitely not as tasty as yours!
    I wish ours were more like deli turkey--smooth but not that greasy.


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