Using Taxis vs. Ride-sharing
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I doubt it will happen!
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To really get creative, the middle of the vehicle could have a circular pod with 4 or 6 pie shaped passenger compartments. When the cab or limo stops, the pod rotates so an empty compartment faces the curb for boarding, or a full one so a passenger can disembark.
I doubt it will happen!
I doubt it will happen!
Of course dispensing empty seats and people from a bus like salami sandwiches may not work out that well except in some SF screenplay.
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The rotating pod dispenser principle worked for Horn and Hardart automats as well as some current vending machines. History, Travel, Arts, Science, People, Places | Smithsonian
Of course dispensing empty seats and people from a bus like salami sandwiches may not work out that well except in some SF screenplay.
Of course dispensing empty seats and people from a bus like salami sandwiches may not work out that well except in some SF screenplay.
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To really get creative, the middle of the vehicle could have a circular pod with 4 or 6 pie shaped passenger compartments. When the cab or limo stops, the pod rotates so an empty compartment faces the curb for boarding, or a full one so a passenger can disembark.
I doubt it will happen!
I doubt it will happen!
If you choose to carpool with strangers, you just have to say "excuse me, I get out here" when you're approaching your destination and then the other people have to shuffle around to let you out. It might help to have carpool compartments with two bench seats facing each other across an aisle so people can switch from one bench to the other when someone needs to get out. It's also not that hard to step out of the vehicle briefly to let someone out and then hop back in.
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If you choose to carpool with strangers, you just have to say "excuse me, I get out here" when you're approaching your destination and then the other people have to shuffle around to let you out. It might help to have carpool compartments with two bench seats facing each other across an aisle so people can switch from one bench to the other when someone needs to get out. It's also not that hard to step out of the vehicle briefly to let someone out and then hop back in.
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No, I think the mechanics of it sound too cumbersome and heavy. Still, you could have a stretch-limo type vehicle with individual doors for each compartment consisting of a full back-seat bench. You could charge one fee to rent the whole seating compartment privately or another fee to carpool with strangers in the same compartment.
If you choose to carpool with strangers, you just have to say "excuse me, I get out here" when you're approaching your destination and then the other people have to shuffle around to let you out. It might help to have carpool compartments with two bench seats facing each other across an aisle so people can switch from one bench to the other when someone needs to get out. It's also not that hard to step out of the vehicle briefly to let someone out and then hop back in.
If you choose to carpool with strangers, you just have to say "excuse me, I get out here" when you're approaching your destination and then the other people have to shuffle around to let you out. It might help to have carpool compartments with two bench seats facing each other across an aisle so people can switch from one bench to the other when someone needs to get out. It's also not that hard to step out of the vehicle briefly to let someone out and then hop back in.
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No, I think the mechanics of it sound too cumbersome and heavy. Still, you could have a stretch-limo type vehicle with individual doors for each compartment consisting of a full back-seat bench. You could charge one fee to rent the whole seating compartment privately or another fee to carpool with strangers in the same compartment.
If you choose to carpool with strangers, you just have to say "excuse me, I get out here" when you're approaching your destination and then the other people have to shuffle around to let you out. It might help to have carpool compartments with two bench seats facing each other across an aisle so people can switch from one bench to the other when someone needs to get out. It's also not that hard to step out of the vehicle briefly to let someone out and then hop back in.
If you choose to carpool with strangers, you just have to say "excuse me, I get out here" when you're approaching your destination and then the other people have to shuffle around to let you out. It might help to have carpool compartments with two bench seats facing each other across an aisle so people can switch from one bench to the other when someone needs to get out. It's also not that hard to step out of the vehicle briefly to let someone out and then hop back in.
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I lived in New York for two years in the 1950s, and who knows - maybe I ate at one - but I was too young to remember and my parents aren't around to ask.
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You asking about Car Pools ,Where people informally agree to get together and share 1 car to get all of them to the same job...
Thats Old stuff .. Or Uber where the internet Mother ship rakes off 25% of the money you Pay for a private car owner to pick you up ,
In some ways like a scab trying to break any Labor organization
trying to get better income and working conditions for commercial taxi drivers ..
while Uber HQ head becomes Billionaires off the work of others with their Property..
In the 70's I Drove a Big Bus, that was more like A Car Pool for people who Lived in The Napa Valley
and worked at the same Shipyard In Vallejo. I had a Job at that Yard too ..
Thats Old stuff .. Or Uber where the internet Mother ship rakes off 25% of the money you Pay for a private car owner to pick you up ,
In some ways like a scab trying to break any Labor organization
trying to get better income and working conditions for commercial taxi drivers ..
while Uber HQ head becomes Billionaires off the work of others with their Property..
In the 70's I Drove a Big Bus, that was more like A Car Pool for people who Lived in The Napa Valley
and worked at the same Shipyard In Vallejo. I had a Job at that Yard too ..
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Most commercial taxi drivers are also working for someone else. Uber is just disrupting the existing status quo and providing a more efficient alternative.
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My comment about the rotating pod was not really intended seriously. However if multi-party, flexible-route, on-demand transportation, be it by Uber drivers, taxi-cab companies, or even public transit companies, becomes widespread, it's certainly possible roads and sidewalks in high use areas could be adapted to allow left and right side loading and unloading, for example by building "pit stops" every block or so where the vehicle could pull inside a barrier that separates it from through traffic.
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And conning their employees to pay most of their corporate capital investments and operating expenses.
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This advertisement for the Model T says to let them design it for you:
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The question is who wants to wait for infrastructure improvements? When they happen, it's nice; but when they don't, it's irritating to let your personal freedom depend on the political process.
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The question is who wants to wait for infrastructure improvements? When they happen, it's nice; but when they don't, it's irritating to let your personal freedom depend on the political process.
If this is required, you can kiss Uber goodbye. You might as well take the bus, if you have to wait for the Uber car, share it with some stranger, and walk partway to your destination so that nobody has to slide over in their seat. And the bus costs 90% less.
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I'm not suggesting people wait. I'm suggesting that if the trend occurs, supportive infrastructure will follow.
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How is it a con? Seems like they offer a simple way for someone to make some extra money with a flexible schedule. Drivers are not actually classed as employees. I suspect most employees of Uber have stock or options and make competitive salaries ($100+k) with other software engineers in Silicon Valley.
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How is it a con? Seems like they offer a simple way for someone to make some extra money with a flexible schedule. Drivers are not actually classed as employees. I suspect most employees of Uber have stock or options and make competitive salaries ($100+k) with other software engineers in Silicon Valley.
"Lately though, as fares have fallen and Uber’s own commissions increased, drivers have grown disillusioned with the company and its promises. From London to San Francisco to New York, they’ve banded together to protest against Uber. The rhetoric they once saw as uplifting now seems deceptive and manipulative. Slowly but surely, Uber drivers are questioning whether Uber’s promises about wages and “small business” opportunities are actually aligned with reality. "
https://www.slate.com/articles/busine...ake_great.html
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The income figures and advantages for employees have been highly exaggerated:
"Lately though, as fares have fallen and Uber’s own commissions increased, drivers have grown disillusioned with the company and its promises. From London to San Francisco to New York, they’ve banded together to protest against Uber. The rhetoric they once saw as uplifting now seems deceptive and manipulative. Slowly but surely, Uber drivers are questioning whether Uber’s promises about wages and “small business” opportunities are actually aligned with reality. "
----https://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2014/10/uber_driver_salary_the_ride_sharing_company_says_its_drivers_make_great.htmlIt's a little like ebay. The employees of ebay did very well and they keep the rate they extract from sales at a level that allows them to grow. Lots of ebay sellers gripe about egregious sales fees as well, nevertheless, the number of users continues to grow. Supply and demand.
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That's whats good about free enterprise. They'll either sort it out to achieve a sustainable business or they won't. So far it's hard to argue the founders of Uber haven't done a good job. And as I said the employees (not drivers) make decent salaries.
It's a little like ebay. The employees of ebay did very well and they keep the rate they extract from sales at a level that allows them to grow. Lots of ebay sellers gripe about egregious sales fees as well, nevertheless, the number of users continues to grow. Supply and demand.
It's a little like ebay. The employees of ebay did very well and they keep the rate they extract from sales at a level that allows them to grow. Lots of ebay sellers gripe about egregious sales fees as well, nevertheless, the number of users continues to grow. Supply and demand.
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Oh boo-hoo, they have to walk half a block to their doorstep so they can get out on the left side of the Uber car.
If this is required, you can kiss Uber goodbye. You might as well take the bus, if you have to wait for the Uber car, share it with some stranger, and walk partway to your destination so that nobody has to slide over in their seat. And the bus costs 90% less.
If this is required, you can kiss Uber goodbye. You might as well take the bus, if you have to wait for the Uber car, share it with some stranger, and walk partway to your destination so that nobody has to slide over in their seat. And the bus costs 90% less.
I specifically mentioned this in the OP, but thanks for reiterating.
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I generally use neither taxi services nor ride-sharing, but I was wondering if anyone living car free has used both and what the difference is as far as passenger experience. Is it easier to call a taxi service or use Uber or other ride-sharing services? Are there differences in terms of service or quality? Generally, how would you explain the difference between taking a taxi and using Uber or other ride-sharing services to someone who has never used either?
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Step 1: Go find your neighbors
Step 2: Agree to share a ride into town
Step 3: Somebody calls an Uber
Step 4: All of you get into the car
Step 5: You split the fare
This is why I suggest that people should learn things from personal experience instead of making things up. What's going on now is sort of like the childhood game of telephone, except the game starts with a grain of truth, which is lacking here.
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