Define "carfree"
01-04-16, 02:12 PM
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This is one of those threads that will never end. It will either include posts that are off topic, proposals for definitions of car free, or arguments about definitions that are inadequate, mis-guided, juvenile, ambiguous, prejudiced, etc.
01-04-16, 02:32 PM
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That sounds like the definition of an "interesting" thread on LCF that stimulates/provokes lots of imaginative comments from the usual suspects.
01-04-16, 03:56 PM
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First of all, I'm not using this thread to "define a situation." I'm using it to define a word.
So sorry. Since no definition of "carfree" exists on this forum, I can't really tell you whether the woman was carfree or not. (By my own definition, she was not carfree, since she regularly used a car belonging to somebody else. But that's just my opinion, which isn't what you wanted to know.)
BTW, it was really nice of you to go to such lengths to help her out. I hope she's doing better now, and was able to go back to bing carfree...whatever that means!
So sorry. Since no definition of "carfree" exists on this forum, I can't really tell you whether the woman was carfree or not. (By my own definition, she was not carfree, since she regularly used a car belonging to somebody else. But that's just my opinion, which isn't what you wanted to know.)
BTW, it was really nice of you to go to such lengths to help her out. I hope she's doing better now, and was able to go back to bing carfree...whatever that means!
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Yes, and because the meanings Of "smoking" and "drinking" aren't so clear, largely because they reflect veery emotional "political" debates. The health industry has arbitrarily provided a standard working definition so that endless time isn't wasted arguing about how many cigarettes it takes to make one a smoker: "If a person drinks or smokes less than 1 drink or cigarette a day, the No option is selected."
I'm pretty much asking that the same thing be done here with the word "carfree." But it's very difficult to explain this when most people are totally hung up on a political viewpoint, rather than a practical one. If we're all using the same words in the same way, we can have many interesting debates and discussions that don't get hung up in endless quibbling. But first we should define the word itself, before we start arguing about it. It's really just common sense!
I'm pretty much asking that the same thing be done here with the word "carfree." But it's very difficult to explain this when most people are totally hung up on a political viewpoint, rather than a practical one. If we're all using the same words in the same way, we can have many interesting debates and discussions that don't get hung up in endless quibbling. But first we should define the word itself, before we start arguing about it. It's really just common sense!
Much like what we're doing here.
And is anything decided definitively? Nope ... it's all open for discussion the next time someone gets a bee in their bonnet about what they want the statistics to show.
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01-04-16, 05:30 PM
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But this is making me realize something that's comforting. When we get too old to think of anything new, we can keep recycling threads from the past! If you don't know what to say, rest assured it's already been said. Google.
01-04-16, 05:50 PM
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In my state we have Smoke free zones like public buildings, schools, hospitals and restaurants. One cigarette lit is considered smoking and will get you ejected every time. One alcoholic beverage being consumed while driving is considered drinking and driving. Any alcohol consumed by a minor is considered illegal drinking. We aren't talking addicted we are talking smoke free, alcohol free, even drug free. All can be considered absolute. Not saying this forum has to be absolute because it seems car free is an idea more than a reality. At least to one that is not car free as often described in this forum.
I doubt there are many of these carfree virgins in existence. So the question we end up dealing with on this forum becomes, "how promiscuous are you with automobiles"?!
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Ah, it seems like what you are looking for are people who are pure carfree individuals - people who still have their carfree virginity so to speak. If you take one ride in a car, ever, you can never get back to that state of original purity.
I doubt there are many of these carfree virgins in existence. So the question we end up dealing with on this forum becomes, "how promiscuous are you with automobiles"?!.
I doubt there are many of these carfree virgins in existence. So the question we end up dealing with on this forum becomes, "how promiscuous are you with automobiles"?!
.What it seems from what I have been reading her that there is very little agreement on what people mean when they say car free. There isn't even an agrement on what a car is. Some seem to believe a Taxi is another form of transportation even if their registration lists them the same as a private vehicle.
Machka has has suggested a definition would become a weapon against others that might want to come to the forum and it is beginning to look like she has a point because after all of these pages not using cars is not all that popular as a description. It seems as if some use of a car is acceptable and the only real question is how much car usage before one moves from car free to something else.
My my question revolves around the way car free is used as a sword in discussions about everything from vacations to commuting. How many times have we seen the slash of that sword in the statement during a debate, "don't you have any interest in being car free?
My answer might be I don't see why I should because I don't see a big difference between car light and car free as practiced by so many posting here. I am not sure someone's transportation choices makes one a better or lesser citizen.
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I wonder if there is any way to get it changed ..... hmmm ....
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I get the feeling you've seen this movie a few times already?
But this is making me realize something that's comforting. When we get too old to think of anything new, we can keep recycling threads from the past! If you don't know what to say, rest assured it's already been said. Google.
But this is making me realize something that's comforting. When we get too old to think of anything new, we can keep recycling threads from the past! If you don't know what to say, rest assured it's already been said. Google.
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