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01-19-17, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Walter S

People also want to take grandma and the kids and all their gear on a road trip and drive where the want to etc. They want to go to Costco and stock up with SUV in tow. Are we going to invest in public transit that's convenient to rural America? Of course not. Things don't change till masses reorganize their arrangement in the world and live close together. Car free requires a social change that would deeply impact the daily activities of most of our population. IMO It will take dramatic pressures the likes of which are way worse than oil embargos etc to date to effect much change in the LCF status quo. Or 80 years.

Very true, people do love their trucks , whether they need a truck or not. I need one for work, building, maintenance and remodel, but if I went to the same place every day or did not need tools I would drive a Fiat or Miata,,hehe

01-22-17, 01:15 AM

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Mississauga is very spread out, with lots of open space, and this a "rapid transit" (hence BRT) conduit that connects separate nodes of development. At each node they are promoting densification/diversification, so gradually more people will cluster at each access point and probably eventually the bus will be converted to light rail.

BRT along a regional corridor with some "empty spaces" is something that is (hopefully) being developed in my region, so I will be interested to see how it goes in Mississauga.

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01-22-17, 01:20 AM

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Our BRT starts at a large public transit terminal in a downtown area of the city and connects to a very large industrial area which employs many thousands of people. There are 3 stops along the way all of them located at major arteries where people can get on and off and transfer to a different busses and go where they need to go.
The reason why hydro corridor was chosen is because it just happens to be a perfect location to build a separate highway for busses.

Sorry, that wasn't clear from your earlier post. I still have to question in general terms the wisdom of putting bus rapid transit along an empty corridor rather than along an existing road. Bus riders and car drivers generally want to go to the same places, so it would often be more efficient to install the BRT along the existing automobile highway, or at least immediately adjacent to it.

(OT--lol...when I read the word "hydro" in your posts and cookers', I immediately picture a bus line alongside a river or something. Then I remember that hydro is the Canadian word for electric power--whether it comes from water or not.)

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01-22-17, 01:24 AM

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That would take massive government subsidies - I'm surprised you're in favour of that. There are only two places it might make sense: Toronto-Montreal (maybe along hwy 7 to include Ottawa), and Calgary-Edmonton. It works in Europe because of population. We don't have the population to support it.

France is half the size of Ontario and has 5 times the population

What about the high speed trains in China? Some are built in low density areas much like the Canadian west and north. Last I heard, these trains are getting excellent ridership and competing with airplanes perhaps more than with automobiles. Of course China does have a MUCH larger population base than Canada.

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