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Old 07-28-17, 12:57 AM   #26
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Lol, I'm looking forward to it!!! When I get older I'm going to insist on bike rides, and I'm going to drag them along and try to jump in front of cars to pay em back!
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i lived "car" free for 5 years ... owned 1 bike and 1 motorcycle ... waco/houston texas ... at that time (70s) it only worked well if you were a non mainstream earner ... even today there remains a benign askance to a car free person ... i still 2 wheel as much as feasible but to function in conformance with "mainstream" expectations 4 wheels are a prerequisite >IMO
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I was car free for 6 years between 1999 and 2005.

I had no problem at all leading a full life ... working full time in an area that interested me, taking night classes, going to church, the library, medical professionals as needed, and shopping. I even redecorated my apartment in that time. From time to time I would take in entertainment ... movies, local festivals, etc.

I spent a lot of time cycling ... a great way to to explore the area in a 200 km radius of where I lived, and further if I employed other methods of transportation such as planes.

In fact, I did quite a bit of travelling in that time ... to different parts of Canada, to Europe twice, and to Australia where I cycletoured for 3 months.

All of that based out of Winnipeg (see Post 2).
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i lived "car" free for 5 years ... owned 1 bike and 1 motorcycle ... waco/houston texas ... at that time (70s) it only worked well if you were a non mainstream earner ... even today there remains a benign askance to a car free person ... i still 2 wheel as much as feasible but to function in conformance with "mainstream" expectations 4 wheels are a prerequisite >IMO
How do you see "expectations" fitting in? Who cares if you're car free? Seems more like a PP to me.
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How do you see "expectations" fitting in? Who cares if you're car free? Seems more like a PP to me.
"PP"? Whatz dat?
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That is what I thought and makes sense in context, but since this is the LCF, and words/acronyms often are used with unique personal definitions by some others posters, I thought it best to ask.
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That is what I thought and makes sense in context, but since this is the LCF, and words/acronyms often are used with unique personal definitions by some others posters, I thought it best to ask.
Understood. Where hopes are facts anything goes :-)
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Wow how inspiring, I don't have a car and probably never will, but glad to see others doing the same.
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How do you envision your ideal carfree lifestyle? Would you bike everywhere, have a mix of multimodal transportation options to give you variety? How far would you live from work? From shopping? What kinds of outings would you want and how would you combine and connect them?

Would you include ride-sharing as a go-to option or would you prefer sticking to transit, when you want a ride? Do you hope for driverless cars as a way to bring down the price of an on-demand ride and make it available at any time or place? Would you want there to be significantly less auto traffic, even if that means not being able to get rides?

What kind of built environment would you ideally want to bike/walk/transit between? Do you like tall buildings, even skyscrapers? Do you like them to be jam-packed together, like in dense metropolises like Manhattan? Do you like density, but with less height, e.g. Paris/Amsterdam/Copenhagen? Do you like smaller towns with less density and height of buildings, but you would still like plenty of greenery and bikeable distances? Or do you not mind biking sprawling distances in the 10s and 20s of miles, or using transit for such distances?

What is the ideal LCF lifestyle/environment you can envision?

WOW! That's a lot of questions. I'll try to answer them all.

1, How do you envision your ideal carfree lifestyle? Would you bike everywhere, have a mix of multimodal transportation options to give you variety?

I prefer a combination of lightrail and bus for multimodeal transportation. Of real importance is the front bike rack on a bus which I use every week. Without good public transit, I highly doubt you'll get a large number of people who are carfree. It's cities that have excellent public transit today that are on the forefront of car-freedom.

What is Copenhagen called? A city of trams? That's a huge reason why there are huge numbers that are carfree. Show me a city that has little or no public transit and you'll see large multi-lane highways with very few people on bicycles.

How far would you live from work? From shopping? What kinds of outings would you want and how would you combine and connect them?

Would you include ride-sharing as a go-to option or would you prefer sticking to transit, when you want a ride? Do you hope for driverless cars as a way to bring down the price of an on-demand ride and make it available at any time or place? Would you want there to be significantly less auto traffic, even if that means not being able to get rides?

2. What kind of built environment would you ideally want to bike/walk/transit between? Do you like tall buildings, even skyscrapers? Do you like them to be jam-packed together, like in dense metropolises like Manhattan?

I know there are people that don't like dense metropolises like Manhattan but you get used to it. People are working and living here to make good money. Period. There are a ton of amenities you'll get there you'll find no where else.

I was speaking with someone who commutes from Pennsylvania into Manhattan each day. (1.5 hours each way) Yes, you can live in the suburbs and commute into a city. However, it's highly unlikely you'll ever be carfree

3. Do you like density, but with less height, e.g. Paris/Amsterdam/Copenhagen?

I would love to live in Paris, Amsterdam or Copenhagen. It might have been a mistake to work most of my life in Manhattan. Their population is richer overall than New York City where you'll run into ghettos everywhere. It's just safer.

4. Do you like smaller towns with less density and height of buildings, but you would still like plenty of greenery and bikeable distances? Or do you not mind biking sprawling distances in the 10s and 20s of miles, or using transit for such distances?

This is what I'm doing. I work in a large metropolis but live in a smaller town with less density and height of buildings. Other than the parks, no much greenery but with an abundance of transit options to get me there. I don't mind using transit 10-15 miles into the city. I give up 2.5 hours of my life for the option of living in a house and not apartment.

What is the ideal life?

This is a hard question because people at different stages in their lives are OK living in apartments while others want homes later in life. It's one that allows you to be carfree with or without transit or bicycles while being able to earn a good living.

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How car-free you can be depends on a lot of things, the geography of your area, and the size of your family.

I am car free, but it is easy. I live in Midtown in Tokyo. In Midtown there is a large grocery store, Dean and Deluca, Starbucks, and numerous other restaurants. Any kind of food you want, French, Spanish, Italian, Chinese, Thai, all are nearby, there are three Michelin star restaurants within 5 minutes walk. There is a large park behind Midtown with a play area and Japanese garden. Less than 10 minutes walk away is the Roppongi Hills shopping area, which has numerous more shops and stores.

I could even be bike free, as I work from home, and have no commute. I can access two subway stations from Midtown, and a third station is only a few minutes walk away. There are regular buses going to Shinbashi, Shibuya, and Shinjuku. Public transportation is punctual and cheap. But it is also crowded, insanely so during rush hours.

Personally, I prefer to get around by bicycle, which can be faster than public transportation to many places.

But I also have a family, and when going places together, cycling is difficult, and public transportation is not as convenient. My father-in-law is rather wealthy, and has cars and drivers. If we need a car, it is a phone call away, and is free.

I would guess that I live the ideal car-free lifestyle.
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Personally, I prefer to get around by bicycle, which can be faster than public transportation to many places.

But I also have a family, and when going places together, cycling is difficult, and public transportation is not as convenient. My father-in-law is rather wealthy, and has cars and drivers. If we need a car, it is a phone call away, and is free.

I would guess that I live the ideal car-free lifestyle.
Makes sense, having a family and going places together is more convenient when using a personal motor vehicle and public transportation is not as convenient probably is an accurate description for most people almost everywhere in the First World; if you need and/or prefer the use of a car for transportation you use one.

I guess that most people probably would not call that living car free, if they thought about the subject at all.
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How car-free you can be depends on a lot of things, the geography of your area, and the size of your family.

I am car free, but it is easy. I live in Midtown in Tokyo. In Midtown there is a large grocery store, Dean and Deluca, Starbucks, and numerous other restaurants. Any kind of food you want, French, Spanish, Italian, Chinese, Thai, all are nearby, there are three Michelin star restaurants within 5 minutes walk. There is a large park behind Midtown with a play area and Japanese garden. Less than 10 minutes walk away is the Roppongi Hills shopping area, which has numerous more shops and stores.

I could even be bike free, as I work from home, and have no commute. I can access two subway stations from Midtown, and a third station is only a few minutes walk away. There are regular buses going to Shinbashi, Shibuya, and Shinjuku. Public transportation is punctual and cheap. But it is also crowded, insanely so during rush hours.

Personally, I prefer to get around by bicycle, which can be faster than public transportation to many places.

But I also have a family, and when going places together, cycling is difficult, and public transportation is not as convenient. My father-in-law is rather wealthy, and has cars and drivers. If we need a car, it is a phone call away, and is free.

I would guess that I live the ideal car-free lifestyle.
How often do you make the call?
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Once a month, or every other month, when we go to Costco or to the beach. The nearest beach is Kamakura, and getting there requires three different trains.
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Once a month, or every other month, when we go to Costco or to the beach. The nearest beach is Kamakura, and getting there requires three different trains.
That's pretty minimal. What do you think stops you calling all the time? Don't need to, don't want to? Hope you don't mind me asking, as I bet my family would use that option more than that.
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Great news in my life! I haven't used a car with any regularity since 2002. Do everything by bicycle, from riding to work to riding for fun/exercise. For the past year or so I've had to take our newborn son to the sitter in the morning, which meant driving a car. Not a long drive, but I just don't like being around angry motorists in a rush first thing in the morning (or at all!).

Whelp, he's now going to be going to day care twice a day at a church, I can take him there by bicycle. Two other days a week...we're having a nanny come to our house! So in about three weeks I'll be back to living car free. CANNOT wait! So excited. As much as I like the lil' dude, I have not enjoyed driving again.
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Great news in my life! I haven't used a car with any regularity since 2002. Do everything by bicycle, from riding to work to riding for fun/exercise. For the past year or so I've had to take our newborn son to the sitter in the morning, which meant driving a car. Not a long drive, but I just don't like being around angry motorists in a rush first thing in the morning (or at all!).

Whelp, he's now going to be going to day care twice a day at a church, I can take him there by bicycle. Two other days a week...we're having a nanny come to our house! So in about three weeks I'll be back to living car free. CANNOT wait! So excited. As much as I like the lil' dude, I have not enjoyed driving again.


That's fantastic. I think many (most?) people CAN be carfree, if that's what they really want and if they are willing to make some little adjustments to get there.

And remember, it won't be too many years before the "lil' dude" will be able to keep up with you on his own bike!
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Something in between where I live now in La Crosse, WI; pop. around 50,000 and my neighborhood in Denver, when I lived there, would be ideal.

Features I like specifically in La Crosse: Close to work (less than 2 miles), easy access to awesome road cycling (5 miles gets you to seemingly endless rural paved and gravel roads), affordable housing for purchase, affordable fresh groceries (dairy, produce), relatively safe (low incidence of random muggings, murder, etc.)

Features I liked specifically in Denver: Reliable in-town public transit, reliable regional transit (to other cities, the mountains, the airport), grocery store within walking distance, affordable and up to code rental housing, nearby options for good/cheap/ethnic food, nearby small venues for rock music shows.

Features I like that are common to both: OK weather (no weather that would force evacuation, few days of excessive/dangerous heat), relatively good and connected system of bicycle facilities, streets on a grid system with sidewalks, different types of housing (single family, converted Victorians, hi-rises), nearby non-chain coffee shop (my second office).
I think you guys might really like La Crosse, WI! Except for the six months when it's cold (which I always forget about this time of year.)
Small world. I live on the northside of La Crosse and have lived here for 60 years.
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Small world. I live on the northside of La Crosse and have lived here for 60 years.
Right on! I've lived here just over 4 years, close to downtown.

If you're out riding around, we'll probably cross paths at some point. I'm one of the crazies out riding around in the winter.
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Right on! I've lived here just over 4 years, close to downtown.

If you're out riding around, we'll probably cross paths at some point. I'm one of the crazies out riding around in the winter.
I grew up in the downtown area near 6th and Ferry when everything was downtown back then. Now I have a goddaughter who lives by the Kwik Trip on Cass.
I ride all year as well, even in the winter. I ride a black EZ Sport recumbent that looks like this: Sometimes pulling a black cargo trailer because this is my car. La Crosse is good for biking if you know where to ride and the best routes to take.
I rode to Menard's in Onalaska this afternoon and for a small city they have some good bikeways such as a bike lane parallel to the busy part of Sand Lake Coulee Road so you are not near the cars.
So if you see me out and about in your neck of the woods you can give me a wave.

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That's pretty minimal. What do you think stops you calling all the time? Don't need to, don't want to? Hope you don't mind me asking, as I bet my family would use that option more than that.
Mainly because everything is close; shops, stores, theaters, museums, parks, etc. I am busy with my business, my wife is a banker who works long hours, my daughter's school is less than 10 minutes away on foot. Another thing is that though I love driving cars, I don't care so much to ride in one, I tend to get a little motion sickness. I much prefer to get around on my bike.
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we're having a nanny come to our house!
Any chance of getting a car-free nanny?
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Most people care more about quality of care more than whether the nanny is car free

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