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Old 10-03-17, 10:31 AM
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Quick questions about accessories

1.What is the best 'overall' lubrication I can use on a bike, whether it be a chain, my pedal screws that have gotten mucky (like grease+mucky)


2.At an LBS they told me to get a 'swatbox' can someone link this ? I basically want a place to put a repair toolkit, what is the best storage positioning on a bike, under the seat on the handlebars , where the top tube and seat tube meet? I want it to not affect my ridign at all.
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1) there isn't one. To be a good chain lube it needs to be fairly runny.
To have good staying powers on threads, ball bearings etc it needs to be fairly thick.
2) I have no idea what a "swatbox" is.
There are saddle bags of various sizes. Some good enough to reliably hold tools.
Or you can get a tool kit packed in a fake water bottle to go wherever the bike goes. You'll still need to carry some spares on the side though.
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For a road bike in dry areas a dry lube tends to work best and will keep the chain cleaner.

Damp or dirty a wet lube may work better. Doesn’t last as long but you are cleaning the chain more anyway.

I use a Teflon lube for cables. If you use cleats sprey wax like pledge works on the cleats.

I use a seat bag for tubes and repair tools.
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https://moltenspeedwax.com/ I put this on every chain I put on my bikes well worth it. As far as bags go, a seat bag works great I would think a Medium or Large one would be ideal for most applications.
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I don't know what pedal screws are. Are they the threads where your pedals go into your cranks? Use grease there.

I disagree that @dabac that you can't use the same oil on the chain as on the rest of the bike. In fact, my preference is the opposite of his. I like a heavy oil for the chain and a light oil for everything else, but if I have only one, light or heavy, I'll use it. These choices aren't that important. They all work. If you use a light oil on the chain, you'll have to refresh it more often, but it works.

I really like this bag for tools. On my bike, the rear face ends up being vertical, and I hang a tail light on the fabric loop. In the bag, I keep a spare tube, a very small pump, a patch kit, some small tools, and sometimes my keys and wallet. The bag moves from bike to bike easily.

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Originally Posted by noglider
I disagree that @dabac that you can't use the same oil on the chain as on the rest of the bike. In fact, my preference is the opposite of his. I like a heavy oil for the chain and a light oil for everything else, but if I have only one, light or heavy, I'll use it. These choices aren't that important. They all work. If you use a light oil on the chain, you'll have to refresh it more often, but it works.
When I'm camping and packing light (but cooking etc) I'll lube my chain with olive oil.
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Originally Posted by Walter S
When I'm camping and packing light (but cooking etc) I'll lube my chain with olive oil.
I like that. I used to bring one cleaner, Dr Bronners, for everything. Dishes, showers, poison ivy exposure, you name it.
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Originally Posted by noglider
I disagree that @dabac that you can't use the same oil on the chain as on the rest of the bike.
I don't think you're reading quite what I meant.
What I mean is that there's no good do-it-ALL bike lube.
Some places, like repacking a cup & cone bearing really benefit from a grease instead on an oil.
Pretty much anything good for a chain will look runny compared to anything that's good for a ball bearing.
Likewise, I really prefer grease over oil as anti-seize on pedal threads, seat posts, quill stems etc.
Greases do tend to hang around longer.

But sure, a decent chain lube will do OK on more than the chain. I wouldn't hesitate to use it on a brake pivot, brake lever, external cam q/r etc

And of course SOMETHING is better than nothing. Even a dose of WD-40 on a seatpost would be better than an entirely dry assembly.
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1- I just use a general household oil. No reason to do otherwise.

2- n/a for me. I commute with a Osprey backpack.
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1 - I'm a fan of T9 lube. It's not good for all jobs, but a few drops here and there will help out.

2 - Google seemed to suggest that a "swatbox" may be a product from Specialized - if your LBS is a Specialized dealer, that's probably why they have it. I just use a large seat pack for tubes, CO2 and repair tools - not loyal to any particular brand.
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