If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
I really can't have a problem with women who have no interest in car-free men, as I have no interest in ugly/fat/dumb/old women who smoke cigarettes. Everyone has their own set of criteria, some is arbitrary, some is well thought out, some is handed down from parents and if you want to get into evolutionary psychology, some of it is picking someone who will best facilitate reproduction, which, (if there is one,) is the whole "point" of biology.
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That aspect of life really hasn't changed for me: Women weren't attracted to me when I drove, and they're not attracted to me now that I don't. And to be honest, I haven't yet met a woman around here who even remotely shares the same interests as me anyway. They all seem to be hell-bent on getting married, having kids, owning a couple of SUVs, and living 15 miles from town. That's the opposite of what I want, so I figure it's pointless to bother worrying about it.
On a side note, since becoming car lite and now car free, I've come to notice certain facial expressions of the different sexes. Women usually look at me with a "Bless his heart, that loser is so poor he can't afford a car" look. Men usually give me "I hate you and you're an idiot" kind of look. Obviously I can't know what they're actually thinking, but this is the impression I get and I never got these looks before I started riding for transportation. I also couldn't care less.
I'm car-light but I've considered this issue as well. Moving into a new city, I was concerned about meeting friends and dating people that shared my bike-centric interests. I made an effort to get involved with the "bike culture" in New Orleans and have met many interesting people, including a now ex-gf (still friends). If you continue to socialize with non-bike folk your car-free lifestyle will most likely eliminate some car-centric dating material. That's not really a problem in my eyes...
double post, sorry
Goodness, that is funny. No matter what you do in life, people are going to have some issue with it, that is why it is always best to do your own thing. I find it fascinating to meet other cyclists, runners and triathletes because we always have something to talk about. Fortunately enough I met my boyfriend at a bike ride so we had that in common. We now ride together and have great times together.That aspect of life really hasn't changed for me: Women weren't attracted to me when I drove, and they're not attracted to me now that I don't.
Id have to say that if someone is judging how they are attracted to me based on me having a car, well thats not someone im interested in. My girlfriend sees my bike love/advocacy/car free life as an asset, and is jealous her job makes the choice for her impossible.
Also in relation to riding with your kids or a romantic interest, thats what is so great about a Bakfiet, or similarly designed vehicle. you deposit the said person in front of you, so you can easily talk and see eachother. since their weight is low, handling isnt affected too much, and you and your date, or kids can have that same nice chat youd have in the car, but at a more lesiurely pace and enjoying the sights.
Also theirs something to be said for being in shape FROM biking that can do wonders to counteract the attractiveness of a car owner who is overweight and flabby.
Finally though, I suspect that this very problem is why so many people move to places like portland: the bike culture allows them to maintain their social life, just in the new sphere of biking, since its such an accepted part of life there and id suspect a great way to meet people. Bike culture is just a way for chicks and dudes to meet up sans car
Do yourselves a favor and just be happy single. Woman are F@#@# INSANE! They literally make no sense and will do completely ridiculous things with no warning and give you no explanation!
Sorry, that's just how I feel at the moment, obviously it's not true about all women, but there is a good chunk of women on this planet that lack any sort of logic or mental stability.
You resurrected this thread to point out your misogynist views. Obviously not true of all, or probably 99%, of women. Perhaps you are having a bad experience with a woman, but you shouldn't generalize from that.
in my experience, there is no dating when car-less.
I'ts probably not the reason though hahahaha
The perfect girl would be car-less as well, so then you can ride around together!
When I meet someone interesting, I want to have the important stuff on the table near the start. I'd much rather part ways over beliefs or ethics or philosophies of car use than to let a relationship flourish while the important topics are not discussed. If the big topics, whatever they may be for you, are ignored early on, then the temptation could be to compromise later. As a relationship progresses, logic takes a back seat to emotion. At the start, there's still a chance the voice of logic will be heard.
Life is good.
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I was literally just thinking about this. I prefer riding a bike and have been told many times I am good looking. The thing about me is, I own a truck and I dont plan on giving it up I usually drive once a week to keep the truck from falling into disrepair. When people ask if I ride a bike everywhere, I respond, "Usually, I have a truck but I prefer riding."
So, I have the luxury of picking a girl up for a date in my truck. Conversely, if we are meeting somewhere, I will ride my bike there. I have yet to have a date set closely to a girl's place but I should look into that. Heck, if I can do that, I can ask if she would like me to pick her up on my tandem.
*All that was included in this comment was meant to be read with a light-hearted demeanor. If at any point I offended anyone or presented an idea that is contradictory to what they hold to be true please consider this post to be a joke. For the sake of keeping the post free of unnecessary clutter, please reconsider any "correction" to this comment you may or may not feel compelled to post.
Not being creepy/antisocial/ridged is going to do a lot more for you than having a car. Cycling has never been an issue for me when it comes to women, and if you aren't creeping women out then it shouldn't be an issue for anyone else either.
Dating is hard when you don't have a car especially out here in the suburbs. It seems everyone I date lives in the city which is actually nice since once you're in the city no car is needed. Getting out to the city, however, can be a pain. Thankfully within the month I'll have my own place downtown and then the necessity of a car will be non-exhistent.
I wholly agree here. When we go out, we usually have a big bike posse. It probably helps living in a college town, but I haven't had any problems with ladies and not having a car. It may also help knowing that I donated my car, who knows. Even the ones who weren't interested in bikes have never had a problem with it; in fact, I've had girls follow me home after parties and such in their car. Something about a nice view. I've never understood as it's always been at night down a pretty boring road.My advice: I haven't got any, but if a person is shallow enough to nay-say another person based on their good, ascetic choices in life, I'm not sure I'd be interested.
"Physics makes us all its *****es."
I think that if you want your friends, potential gfs, etc. to understand and respect the car-free life, then you just have to live that life normally. You can't be cooped up in your house all the time, you need to hang out with your friends just as much as someone who owns a car. And I think most importantly, you need to be a hard worker and generous.
A lot of people think that the car-free person is poor or just cheap. Both are legitimate reasons to be car-free, of course, but if you are car-free for a simpler lifestyle, then you should still be generous and responsible. Whenever I hang out with friends, they're always the one to drive places because they know I don't own a car. So I think it's really important to pay them generously for gas. Stuff like that.
I think that a partial reason many girls are looking for a guy who has a car is because it's a sign that they are responsible. Some people think that if you don't own a car, then you're just lazy and bum off of other people all the time. Yeah there are definitely those people who don't have a car, they have no job, and have no intention of finding a job because they are lazy. But I'm assuming the people here are not so much like that. Part of the whole car-free life is just to work hard like everyone else, make plenty of money to support your financial goals, but to have a more simple life, possibly leaving money over for things you think are more important. Not to mention saving yourself from the annoyance of owning a car (insurance, repair, gas, etc).
In my opinion, you should get to know a girl pretty well before seriously dating her either in group settings or public hang-out locations. So even though she may have initially be turned off by your lack of car, if she sees that you are a hard worker and a generous giver before you seriously pursue her, then you have fine chances with her (assuming she's not a happiness sucking b****).
Let's start a bike amish community! just kidding
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