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Old 08-29-05, 05:06 AM   #1
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Now TV free.

I am moving back to my country of birth New Zealand after living here in Oz after 25yrs away.Having being carfree for 43 of my 45 yrs.I embraced the pedalling life for the last 2yrs due to health reasons and a crap public transport system.
As my parents have never driven or owned a car its something i never thought was unusual and growing up we used all the methods used by carfree members.I never felt deprived, it was something we did till a family member learned and they became the courier(unlucky) of the family.I only got my licence in my late 30s for a job in a car hire place and learned to drive on the job.Plenty of burned out clutches there hehe.

Now that i am returning home i have found accomodation close to a major shopping complex with a public transport interchange attached to it if needed.
I still plan on using the bike as my major transporter to work and everything else.I am now going to be television free to get me out of the house as i loved to watch sports and sit there zombied out.My thinking was i spent enough time biking around i deserved that tv time. Using my laptop to connect to the world to catchup with news etc will be my only zombied out time from now on.I dont know if spending so much time on the forums counts toward to my zombie time count but when i discovered it after being buzzed and harrassed on my commutes.It helped me to understand alot and calm down.Unlimited work internet access also helped haha.

Okay thats enough of a novel for now and you all stay safe and i'll catchya around,i loved reading Koffee,Roody,Illihault,Oboeguy,Bigmark and stoked to see a post from Sheldon Brown in the mechanical forum once,
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Old 08-29-05, 12:01 PM   #2
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Crap public transport, I bet you were in Brisbane weren't you....

I have been TV free for nearly 9 months now and I reckon you won't even miss it. You can watch films on your laptop, you can watch news streaming on the internet and you dont have to put up with commercials or bloody reality TV. Wicked.
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I've been TV free for over a year and a half. It's a complete waste of time. I get news from the web and radio, weather from the web, and read, read,read after cycling and walking the dog.
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I've been TV free since February and it's amazing how much more time I have to do things, how many more books I've read, and how much more time I spend enjoying outside. Because I don't watch the TV news, I actually feel tons safer. All they show is news that freaks your out and makes it feel like everyone wants to break into your house, **** you, kill you or steal from you. I like humanity a lot more because I don't watch TV.
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TV is a true time-sucker. I waste so much time watching it. I used to be tv free, but I moved into a house with satellite tv and tivo. Ack. I'm about ready to do an intervention on myself. Except for Deadwood. Of course.
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Dont't dump your frustrations of life onto the tube. I find that computer ownership or access can get out of control just like overwatching television. Moderation and balance is the key.
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I've been TV-free since 1984. I agree with folder that computer use can get just as (or even more) addictive, though for me Internet use is a two-way communication tool. If you're TV-free, consider joining the (very low traffic) notv YahooGroups.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/notv/

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Old 08-29-05, 03:29 PM   #9
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TV free for much longer than car free here. When I see it in someones home I'm completely captivated. Do any of you who have been TV free for more than 10 years have that experience? Maybe I just read too many books and try to understand everything on the screen. When a person reads he or she can re-read, or get a dictionary or compare one text with another but with the TV the assertions about the world come pouring in as both sound and images (which on news and "educational" programs don't correlate) so quickly that the viewer can't make any discrimination. People who watch TV regualarly sometimes complain that it is "mediated" reality, it is more accurate to describe it as falsehood unmediated by any thinking. When I got on this forum I was surprised to find people talking TV free and Thoreau. To connect it back to the subject of car free living, there are people who, no matter how many times you say "I like it." think you are suffering without a car. A few weeks ago it rained and a coworker who has been saying to me all summer, "I bet you're hating life in this heat." said to me "OOO, you're going to be miserable riding your bike in this rain.". No, I was looking forward to the refreshing ride. My twenty something niece once told me in complete seriousness that I am ignorent of reality because I don't watch TV.

Do you guys think that part of the communications gap between bike people and car people is that our fun experience can't be represented on TV so isn't knowable to the TV people? The TV says "Make sure you bring your umbrella folks its going to rain." therefore anyone who gets rained on is miserable? The TV can't really represent that little jolt you get when the rain first hits you and the tingly feeling later as the cool raindrops contrast with your body heat.
What I'm getting at is that maybe for a TV person, riding in a climate controlled car isn't different from sitting in front of a TV. I'm looking for some snappy sound byte that I can tell people since "I'm looking forward to my ride home." isn't getting through. Maybe a shortened paraphrase of Herodotus' "Neither rain, nor snow, nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds." like "Neither rain, nor snow, nor heat nor gloom of night can make me want a car."? No, the neither-nor construction causes thinking and the sound byte has to combat thoughtlessness doesn't it? Any ideas?
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I was TV free for a year 5 years ago. I grew up without cable. I never would have thought that I would be paying for digital cable as I am now. I did enjoy seeing the Tour de France on OLN, but mostly it is a waste of time. I probably stay up later than I would otherwise. When I didn't have TV, I didn't miss it. I am probably somewhat hooked now. I'm even a little apprehensive about killing the cable.
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Old 08-29-05, 05:01 PM   #11
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I've owned a TV for 3 days of my entire life, though never been really TV-free since we have a TV at work. Every 6 months, I think about getting a TV and DVD player to rent movies. Then it passes and I forget about it. I'll probably buy a DVD player and bring it at work.

I'm a bit web-addict and I listen to radio a lot.

TV keeps you captive. So many shows could be better done on radio. I mean... some shows are only some people talking. Why do we need to see them? Then there are the ads...

I still have a car.
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Old 08-29-05, 05:20 PM   #12
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Don't fall into the temptation...www.craftytv.com....yikes!
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Old 08-29-05, 05:39 PM   #13
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I haven't watch TV since the 90s, but my mom has kept the big TV around anyway since it costed so much money.

Well, we're truly TV-free now, since the house is probably underwater now.
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Gosh, I thought I was one of the few TV-less folk. Glad to see that the movement is more wide spread than I had thought. I haven't watched in over 5 years; don't miss it.
Cable where I live is pushing 65$ per month and so I pulled the plug, when I called to cancel the service I was asked, WHY? I said cable is dull, boring and repeative, plus not worth the expense of paying for channels I would never watch.
More time to do the things I like.
I listen to people gripe and moan about how bad TV is , and I ask, "Why watch it then?. and the faces go blank..DUHHHHHHH 'what would we do without it?.
No hope for the hopeless
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TV free for about 3 months. I decided I had to get rid of the damn thing after I actually sat through the ENTIRE NFL Draft this spring. I think it is what alcoholics call rock bottom. No TV has been great, I have always read somewhat, but now I am reading tons of great books. I do still go to the pub and watch a baseball game every now and then, but I don't think 3 hours of TV a month is that bad.
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I haven't watch TV since the 90s, but my mom has kept the big TV around anyway since it costed so much money.

Well, we're truly TV-free now, since the house is probably underwater now.
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Old 08-29-05, 07:46 PM   #17
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i only watch the occasional film festival movie and pornography. i don't have service just a tv. i do agree with the internet being addictive. as a student i check out maybe a dvd about the psychological effects of gambling, or lectures. the tv can be used as a tool for education. networks and all the mind numbing commericals that tell us to consume. the only tool that i see in it though is the use of recordings(DVD VHS)The tv just like the internet can numb the mind it's just about how you use these tools.It's about using common sense, logic, and knowledge. but i believe that the people that say kill your tv. are meaning the networks which i totaly agree with. but as far as dvds or vhs. the tv is a worthless piece of plastic which is soon to be replaced by the computer and when that happens i will kill my tv and be tv free. car free is in the process.
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Wow,thanks for the replies which i agree with and happy to see what a varied bunch we are.I am looking forward to reading more and attending sport events live to get my fix and just ride.Hope to kick off a touring bug in NZ,cheers.
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Sorry nothing beats Sydney transport system.
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Screw TeeVee. Usually, if there's a show I'm interested in, like "Six Feet Under" or "Lost," I'll wait 'til it comes out on DVD and rent it. Some of these reality and makeover shows really freak me out, because they alarm me as to where our culture is headed. It's hard to feel patriotic when you suspect all your country-men and -women of being melodramatic, wannabe rockstars , plastic surgery sideshow-freaks and vapid drama-queens.Also, that old chestnut about "it's what's on the inside that counts" is still true, in my humble opinion, but advertising and Oprah oil the wheels of commerce by making us all feel ugly and inadequate. It's no big secret.
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I have been tv-free for years. It started when I was hosteling in Europe for six months. I got out of the habit. And, when I returned to the states, I just forgot to watch it. I get my news on NPR and BBC by way of the radio. I don't miss it.

Every once in a while, when I am visiting people, I will watch it and find myself bored. I've missed most (American) cultural references to shows though. I missed survivor, seinfeld, friends. Recently, while visiting, I watched an episode of Frasier in syndication and I found myself saying how funny this 'new' show was. She told me, 'yeah, that was on for about 9 years, it's been off the air now for at least a year.'

Very nice being tv-free. So funny though. I have had more people offer me their extra televisions because I no longer own one. Also, whenever I'm at a party or a social gathering someone always remarks, "oh, you're the one who doesn't own a tv (so and so) told me about you." And then there is an awkward moment of a group saying, 'ooooh' and looking me over to see if I look different from other people because they find it to be soooo unusual.

I think the brain works differently without television. TV trains it to be more passive, to be a spectator, to watch things happen without trying to be involved. Interesting.

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Screw TeeVee. Usually, if there's a show I'm interested in, like "Six Feet Under" or "Lost," I'll wait 'til it comes out on DVD and rent it. Some of these reality and makeover shows really freak me out, because they alarm me as to where our culture is headed. It's hard to feel patriotic when you suspect all your country-men and -women of being melodramatic, wannabe rockstars , plastic surgery sideshow-freaks and vapid drama-queens.Also, that old chestnut about "it's what's on the inside that counts" is still true, in my humble opinion, but advertising and Oprah oil the wheels of commerce by making us all feel ugly and inadequate. It's no big secret.
I can't stand just about any popular show out there.
The last thing I could handle was Seinfeld.
I'm a dork who pays a cable bill and pretty much has History Channel playing in the background all the time. I'm considering replacing my TV with Satellite radio.
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I've been TV free since February and it's amazing how much more time I have to do things, how many more books I've read, and how much more time I spend enjoying outside. Because I don't watch the TV news, I actually feel tons safer. All they show is news that freaks your out and makes it feel like everyone wants to break into your house, **** you, kill you or steal from you. I like humanity a lot more because I don't watch TV.

Agreed.

I've been reading more books and getting better information on the web than ever before. It sickens me to see commercial after commercial of motor cars and now I wonder why society spends so much money on this luxury. People are brainwashed into buying this lifestyle. If you watch enough TV, even a Hummer starts to become attractive.

I spend much more time outside and no longer spend my afternoons watching sports. The past three years of being TV free have been a revelation in my life. It just amazes me how much of my life I wasted sitting watching other people live their lives.

I laugh when I hear cable rates going up and now they have satalite radio that requires a subscription. I used to pay for cable TV and was AMAZED at what folks are shelling out each month when I visited the payment center! People were paying $250.00 - $300.00 dollars a month for hundreds of channels with extentions in different rooms. I could not believe it and realized then there was something wrong with this picture because these same folks were still saying there is nothing on TV! SAD.

I even gave up Cable Internet and log on using my Verizon cell phone at 14.4K!!! It's free access after 9:00 which is why I like it so much. HA. I'm so cheap now but it keeps me from wasting my life in front of the computer.

Several years ago, I learned the hard way after a long period of unemployment that it's just no good to live on the edge. I've become a minimalist and find much more enjoyment in security than trying to live a television lifestyle.
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