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Old 01-11-06, 11:31 PM   #1
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My First Step....

A while ago I titled a thread " Should I..." regarding changing waiter jobs to a place closer so I could be car free. Well, I have been making ALOT (as far as bring rednecks sweet tea is concerned) of money at my job 20 miles away. I went and filled out an application today at the busiest steakhouse nearby, to work three days a week. The manager gave me the standard " well, we don't hire part time people and we are fully staffed right now, but we will give you a call" BS. I figure I will start pestering him ( read: I will come by three times a week ) until they hire me. Come on, I show up everyday, sober, dont call in sick, have 2 BS's and a BA, that makes me better than 90 percent of waitstaff you can hire. I can pass a drugtest (now). You really can't turn that down!
He said that I probably would make less money. i explained that it is a quality of life issue. I really miss being able to ride my bike to work. I did that at my first job, washing dishes at an Episcipal retreat center, getting up at 4;30 in the morning, riding 12 miles each way, for minimum wage, breaking a collarbone in the process. 90 percent of my other jobs I bike-commuted, I miss it.
I figure I will wake up on those days around 10 ( early for waitstaff), bike, go work out at the gym nearby, take a shower, work for a few hours at the LBS (for free, for now) then go bring rednecks sweet tea, then bike home. I need to get back to that routine.
For those of you who read this short piece, I apoligize for the misspellings dangling participles, and other various errors, I apologize, but three screwdrivers will do that ( Hey I might be 210 pounds, but I am a lightweight). i realize that it won't make me car free, but three days can turn into four, then five.....
Give me some feedback.....
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Old 01-12-06, 01:14 AM   #2
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I worked for 3 years about 2.5 miles from home, then 1 mile from home, and now 2 miles from home. Three jobs, the same home. My advice is to find a nice centrally located place to move to. Then find a job near that. Then give up the car.

Although i have been thinking about moving farther away just to get a longer commute. Problem is that i commute year round in the snow and rain so too long might suck.

Also your sig, ever read the whole prayer? I have this as my home page so i read it everytime i turn my computer on.

http://www.cptryon.org/prayer/special/serenity.html
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Old 01-12-06, 01:54 AM   #3
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Easy Does It.
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Old 01-12-06, 02:27 AM   #4
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Here's my feedback for you, hope it doesn't sting:



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The manager gave me the standard " well, we don't hire part time people and we are fully staffed right now, but we will give you a call" BS. I figure I will start pestering him ( read: I will come by three times a week ) until they hire me. Come on, I show up everyday, sober, dont call in sick, have 2 BS's and a BA, that makes me better than 90 percent of waitstaff you can hire. I can pass a drugtest (now). You really can't turn that down! He said that I probably would make less money. i explained that it is a quality of life issue.
They may very well not hire part time people, and he may not have the authority to change that. (Of course, probably most if not all of the employees are part time, as in less than 40 hours a week, but I imagine he means they want everyone available for any given shift any day of the week.) I'm also assuming you're a guy - mostly since you say waiter. Most lower-level food service places want gals to serve food - you don't see a restaurant out there with a male version of the Hooters girls, do you?

"Pestering" an employer, if done properly, may be an impressive show of desire and initiative for a "real job" - like something in an office, but in this case it will likely be just that - pestering. I doubt the manager will be more likely to hire you if you're bugging him about it all the time, in fact he'll probably be less likely to.

You can tell him you show up everyday sober and don't call in sick, but how does he know that's true? For a job like this, he's not likely to take the trouble to call even your current employer to verify, much less any previous employers.

If you have two BSs and a BA, most food service places won't want you. You've heard the term "overqualified?" Now that's B.S. - what it usually means is that the management, who may well have no more than a high school diploma, doesn't want a college graduate (three times over) working for them. Imagine you're the manager, and you have an employee who's a double PhD and is a medical doctor to boot. How are you going to feel asking them to go clean the bathrooms? Trust me, they can turn you down.

The manager also doesn't care about your quality of life issues. He's looking for someone to take a low-paying food service job, someone who hopefully will show up most of the time and do a halfway decent job, like the rest of the kids he hires. The brutal truth is that he most likely thinks you're a weirdo - a triply degreed guy who wants a job at his steakhouse because the other steakhouse you work at is too far away to ride your bike to all the time. Now, we understand the concept of bike commuting, and probably most here get the idea of a simple job that pays the bills and leaves you time to do whatever you want (I have one of those myself), but I doubt it clicks for Mr. Steakhouse Manager.

If you really just want a basic job, something with a paycheck, but close to you, apply some other places. You might be able to make just as much or more without being a waiter. Video store clerk, grocery bagger, whatever. Drive a bread truck or be a library clerk. What I'm getting at is I personally wouldn't set your sights on this steakhouse job, to the exclusion of everything else, saying, "This is the job I'm going to get, and I will not work anywhere else." It just doesn't seem like it's the kind of job that warrants that sort of intense focus. Look around the neighboorhood, there's got to be somewhere else you'd want to work, that wants you too.
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Old 01-12-06, 02:10 PM   #5
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I truly appreciate your feedback. Much of what you said was true. I could get a job doing something else, but, truthfully, there is not another job in the area that qualifies my critera as well as this one ( relatively high pay, short hours, no getting up early). If i were to get another job, I would have to work 8 hours rather than 4 or 5 to make the same amount of money.
Showing up alot seems to work for me. At Outback, where I worked for 1.5 years), just showing up everyday worked ( we'll call you tomorrow, no call, "Hi How are you today". It was the same at Chili's, and my bar in college.
Af far as the quality of life issue, he seemed to understand. He transferred jobs from Buckhead ( a wealthy part of Atlanta) to his current job to be able to spend more time with his kids and to shorten the commute. Or maybe he is just blowing smoke.
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My stepson works in restaurants too. he has gotten jobs by being persistent and talking up his qualifications. One time I heard him telling a manager "I really need an answer on the job right now, because I need money and I like to work." I thought, theree goes that job. But he got hired! II'm no expert, but I think in restaurants, they figure they're going to have to train you anyway, and most waitstaff change jobs a lot anyway. So mostly they do hope to find somebody who will come in every day and work energetically and look decent.
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Why are you working as a waiter with 3 college degrees?!
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Old 01-14-06, 01:03 AM   #8
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Why are you working as a waiter with 3 college degrees?!
That's what I want to know too. I'm afraid to go back to school for my Masters and end up like that. sorry guy, I bet you still make more money than me.
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Why are you working as a waiter with 3 college degrees?!
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there is not another job in the area that qualifies my critera as well as this one (relatively high pay, short hours, no getting up early).

....I don't see anything wrong with that.
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