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Living Car Free Do you live car free or car light? Do you prefer to use alternative transportation (bicycles, walking, other human-powered or public transportation) for everyday activities whenever possible? Discuss your lifestyle here.

View Poll Results: Why do you visit Living Car-Free?
I am Car-Free and I am here to advocate/promote car-freeness. 23 20.54%
I am Car-Free and I am here to get help dealing with challenges. 22 19.64%
I would like to be Car-Free and am here for help, ideas, and advice. 17 15.18%
I am Car-Light and am here to advocate/promote reduced car use. 18 16.07%
I am Car-Light and am here to get help in dealing with challenges. 27 24.11%
I wish to reduce my car use and am here for help, ideas, and advice. 28 25.00%
I am neither Car-Free nor Car-Light, but am curious to see what its all about! 9 8.04%
Just wondered in, 'cause, you know. 4 3.57%
I am here to poke fun at the hippies. 11 9.82%
Other. 14 12.50%
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Old 01-25-06, 06:17 PM   #1
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Why do you visit Living Car-Free?

I hate polls! That being said, I will allow myself this one execption.

Why do you visit the Living Car-Free forum?

(Now lets see if I can create a poll without messing it up ).
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Old 01-25-06, 07:10 PM   #2
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I answered the first two checkboxes and the last, but the "other" is pretty significant because it's not just one other.

1. I like to both give and compare advice as much as coming here to get it.

2. I like to meet other people who are interested in this! Honestly, I admire each of you tremendously. There are some wonderful, intelligent, and creative people in here, and some of my favorite posters in all of bikeforums.net come in here and jaw.

3. Hairsplitting, sorry: It's not just getting help with the challenges, but I like to come in here and see if people have considered an idea that I haven't. I don't need any help sometimes with the lifestyle or challenges mostly - because I've been doing this for years and I've been through a lot of it - but sometimes people come up with interesting ways of being car-free that just knock my socks off even when I'm not looking for advice or help. An indicative example was seeing the thread with the group of people in Portland moving an entire apartment's-worth of furniture and personal effects by bicycle. I wouldn't have even thought of it, and seeing people do that was not only remarkable, but clever and creative and it sent a warm feeling to my very bones.

4. I like the orbital discussions about simplicity. This is a bike forum and all that, but it's both fun and important to discuss the finer points of this way of life.

5. Other.

EDIT: Nitpick #2: I also want to say that I'm car-free and advocate reduced car use even though the choice was for car-lite and advocating it. Whatever you can do is fine by me as long as people are honest with themselves and try.

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Old 01-25-06, 07:18 PM   #3
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I visit Living Car Free because
I am car-lite and TRYING TO
KEEP THE DREAM ALIVE!

Not only for myself, but for all the fat miserable
people driving their SUVs and such in a completely
unconscious manner about what 'footprint' they
are leaving on the earth as a result of their oil
gluttony.

Yeh, I said it, I am basicly a tree hugger.
And Anti-war and damned proud of it.

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Old 01-25-06, 08:20 PM   #4
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I am here to poke fun at the hippies. Ha ha ...... I like that answer best ..... do they still call 'em hippies???

Really though, My vote would be, I'm not car free or car lite and I don't see the possibility in the near future, but I want to see what it's all about, if that was one of the choices. I do enjoy thinking about how life could be simpler though and some of the folks in here seem to have mastered that.

One of my rules in life is: If you want to learn how to do something, find somebody who already does it well ....... and copy him. So, i'm here hopefully to learn and certainly not to poke fun at the hippies, cute as that may be. If I'm lucky, i'll pick up something in here that I'll be able to apply to my own life one day.

Should that happen, Thanks in advance to whoever you may be.

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Yes, old guy there are one or two who actually do come to poke fun at the hippies. I haven't seen their posts in a few days, so maybe they've moved on to greener pastures.

I checked the first two boxes, but I should have also checked "other." I come here for a sense of community because I don't know people in real life who are carfree by choice. And certainly none who incorporate a bike into the mix. So it's fun to be here among my own kind, so to speak.
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Old 01-25-06, 08:54 PM   #6
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This is just a place to associate with like-minded individuals. I don't need or seek advice, or wish to give it. As far as advocacy, this wouldn't be the place to do it, because anybody visiting this forum already is interested in the cause. Some consider being car free in itself to be advocacy and protest. Maybe it is, but I'm not personally fanatical or evangelical about it. I'd say that I find motivation here too.
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(Now lets see if I can create a poll without messing it up ).
Nope, "wondered" should be "wandered". Just sayin'.

Good poll though, Pat. I chose four different answers to meet my current status of: car-lite, want to be car-free, would like more people to drive less, and like to see discussion of challenges and solutions even if they don't apply to me.
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Like Mtn Mike, I'm here simply to associate with like minded people. So I chose the option that seems closest:

I am Car-Free and I am here to get help dealing with challenges.
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...because the single-speed/fixie forum has lost all of its edge and is no longer fun or worth my time.
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I am here to poke fun at the hippies.

Yeah, there is no way in hell I was not voting for that. Actually I do not try to antagonize, as I just like to sit back and watch what happens when others do. This forum is usually good for a laugh or two, some of the funniest things I have ever read online have been here.

It is not that I do not have respect for the people here who live car free and try to be an example for the rest of us, which is not the case at all. It is just that their narrow mindedness is really just a laugh riot. They behave the exact same way that the guy in the topic below behaves and the best part is they cannot even see the hypocrisy in themselves!

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Car-lite. Here to learn how to be 'liter' and eventually, I hope, car-free.
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I am here to poke fun at the hippies. Ha ha ...... I like that answer best ..... do they still call 'em hippies???
I've been called a "tree-hugging hippie" often enough! I only hug trees for religious reasons, though
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I voted for number 2, "I am Car-Free and I am here to get help dealing with challenges." but i suppose that that isnt quite right. I tend to ignore "other" categories because i usually tend to be overly anayltical and put everything into "other" categories. But the real reason is that i visit the forum is the community feeling. I dont know anyone who is car free and bike dependent. I enjoy knowing that other people out there are doing the same thing and i like to see how they deal with challenges. I feel like i have the whole car free thing figured out and i dont really need help, but i like knowing that there are also other people out there.
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For me it's sexual.
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I voted for number 2, "I am Car-Free and I am here to get help dealing with challenges." but i suppose that that isnt quite right. I tend to ignore "other" categories because i usually tend to be overly anayltical and put everything into "other" categories. But the real reason is that i visit the forum is the community feeling. I dont know anyone who is car free and bike dependent. I enjoy knowing that other people out there are doing the same thing and i like to see how they deal with challenges. I feel like i have the whole car free thing figured out and i dont really need help, but i like knowing that there are also other people out there.
Same here. And we live probably 2 or 3 miles apart. Ironic?
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haha i am a hippie...but i really do come here to poke fun at us...i like to come here and usually just read everything i can, soak up the knowledge, sometimes at my 2 cents, help out where i can, or say something witty so as to provide some comic relief.

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I put down pokin fun at the hippies. But I'm really car free because I hate cars and love bikes.
Ah those funny hippies
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LOL
I would have to check the two car lite things as being closest, but I am tempted to check the making fun of hippies because it is the funniest. Darn treehuggers! I might come here because I advocate less car dependence, but I do not come to advocate here. Most posters are either way beyond me in living sustainably or would not be at all receptive anyway. I am in awe of the creative ways people have come up with, although I do not come here for practical advice either. Really here, and the commuting forum, just make me feel at home in the sense that bicyles are viewed, generally, as part of a bigger package of working on ecogrooviness. Bikes are cool and all, but it is really the simplicity threads that keep me checking back here.
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Same here. And we live probably 2 or 3 miles apart. Ironic?
That is pretty damn amusing. we should meet up sometime.
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Other - Aspiring to be a hippie.

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go buy another $7.00 Frocha-mocha-chachie-latte.
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Yes, old guy there are one or two who actually do come to poke fun at the hippies. I haven't seen their posts in a few days, so maybe they've moved on to greener pastures.
Could be a case of if ya' can't beat 'em, join 'em!

In answer to the original question, I ticked the second box, but I was tempted to go for "other". Basically I just come here to associate with like-minded people and learn from their experiences. Sometimes I'll have experiences of my own to relate, too.
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