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Old 04-20-06, 04:45 PM   #1
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Delivering pizza by bike

Has anyone ever delivered pizza by bicycle? How was the experience? Is it feasible? One of my bikes has an xtracycle, which might be ideal for this.

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Old 04-20-06, 06:19 PM   #2
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I have not done it myself, but I would imagine it all depends on the size of the delivery range.
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Old 04-20-06, 06:48 PM   #3
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I've seen it done in NYC. I've seen bikes there with special large front racks for delivery.
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Old 04-20-06, 07:24 PM   #4
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Just try it out man.

I've been thinking of using my xtracycle, and trying to make a taxi service with it around the University, like they do in Kenya. I'll rely on tips only, and just get people to their cars, classes, restraunts fast...

I just need to figure it out..maybe make a sign and put it on my bike.

Also I want my snapdeck to be more comfortable, so I need to figure out what I can put on it for that.

I see alot of opportunities with this thing.

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Old 04-20-06, 08:10 PM   #5
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Has anyone ever delivered pizza by bicycle? How was the experience? Is it feasible? One of my bikes has an xtracycle, which might be ideal for this.

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There are several ways the pizza delivery guys do it in my neighborhood. Some have a pizza sized rear rack. Some use a pizza sized front rack. Some just balance the keepwarm bag on the handlebars. None of them look stable. I asked a guy in line at the post office last week about his wide and flat rear rack. He said it was pretty stable. He said he attached the wide plastic rack with twisted wire. I thought coat hanger but he said no it was thinner than coat hanger, just wire he had laying around.
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Old 04-20-06, 08:17 PM   #6
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Didn't Peter Parker deliver pizza by bike in the Spiderman movie?
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Old 04-20-06, 10:34 PM   #7
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Has anyone ever delivered pizza by bicycle? How was the experience? Is it feasible? One of my bikes has an xtracycle, which might be ideal for this.

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The more important question is has anyone eaten a pizza delivered by bike? Was it still piping hot or was it stone cold garbage?
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Old 04-20-06, 10:41 PM   #8
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Hideaway Pizza here in Norman has an actual position for bicycle delivery boy. They have a custom bike, even, with an insulated pizza trailer.
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Didn't Peter Parker deliver pizza by bike in the Spiderman movie?
Nope, that was a moped. Almost a bike.
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Old 04-21-06, 07:53 AM   #10
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has anyone eaten a pizza delivered by bike? Was it still piping hot or was it stone cold garbage?
The metaphysical connection between the spokes of a bicycle's wheels and the middle of a pizza causes a cooling effect on the pizza every time the bike's wheels turn. The esters in the pizza and the DNA are partly spoke-shaped and this causes a bond between them and the spokes creating this refrigeration effect. If you ever ride a bike with a pizza on it, you'll notice that (because of the law of conservation of energy) the spokes will be getting hot as they cool down the pizza.

This is why it's financially unfeasible to deliver pizza by bicycle. Despite the fact that in many densely-populated areas, it's quicker to deliver by bike than by car, bicycle-delivered pizza gets cold faster! You could buy racing disc wheels, which eliminate the cooling effect, but they cost so much that you may as well just deliver by car.

However, the refrigeration effect on pizza also works wonderfully on beer, which contains the same key partly-spoke-shaped esters in just large enough quantities that, if you pedal to the beer store and then ride home for a few miles, you'll have yourself some ice-cold beer, ready to drink!
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Pizza Hut has a franchise in London that only delivers by bicycle. The owners say that in their situation it's an improvement on using mopeds/motorbikes because they can load up the bikes to up to 30 pizzas rather than the 6-10 maximum. They claim less occurences of late deliveries and no complaints of cold pies.

They use specially constructed pizza carriers and cover the smallest Pizza Hut franchise catchement area in the UK. Some other pizza delivery stores in the UK also use bikes. Not only does it reduce the cost of delivery but it also means that they can capitalise on the provisions of child labour laws for delivery work with none of the restrictions of driver licensing.
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I've seen it done in NYC. I've seen bikes there with special large front racks for delivery.
Those are bike by Worksman. The rear wheel is made of solid rubber to cut down on flats. It give the rider a rough ride but these are utility bikes made for the comfort of the pizza. The front wheel is some high quality very thick rubber. There's a huge box on the front of bike to put pizza inside.
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The metaphysical connection between the spokes of a bicycle's wheels and the middle of a pizza causes a cooling effect on the pizza every time the bike's wheels turn. The esters in the pizza and the DNA are partly spoke-shaped and this causes a bond between them and the spokes creating this refrigeration effect. If you ever ride a bike with a pizza on it, you'll notice that (because of the law of conservation of energy) the spokes will be getting hot as they cool down the pizza.

This is why it's financially unfeasible to deliver pizza by bicycle. Despite the fact that in many densely-populated areas, it's quicker to deliver by bike than by car, bicycle-delivered pizza gets cold faster! You could buy racing disc wheels, which eliminate the cooling effect, but they cost so much that you may as well just deliver by car.

However, the refrigeration effect on pizza also works wonderfully on beer, which contains the same key partly-spoke-shaped esters in just large enough quantities that, if you pedal to the beer store and then ride home for a few miles, you'll have yourself some ice-cold beer, ready to drink!
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There are several ways the pizza delivery guys do it in my neighborhood. Some have a pizza sized rear rack. Some use a pizza sized front rack. Some just balance the keepwarm bag on the handlebars. None of them look stable.
A modified version of something like the Pashley Mailstar (or Pronto, it's the same bike basically!) with an insulated box in the front rack might work. Could also have insulated rear panniers for dealing with smaller items?

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However, the refrigeration effect on pizza also works wonderfully on beer, which contains the same key partly-spoke-shaped esters in just large enough quantities that, if you pedal to the beer store and then ride home for a few miles, you'll have yourself some ice-cold beer, ready to drink!
The Beer is even colder and tastes better if you drink it while riding. The ride is more enjoyable too if concurrently listening to good tunes. But of course only in locations where this activity can be done IAW the law and after a proper evaluation of the risks involved. I recommend a good non descript insulated opaque mug with a big handle for such transport of cold beer. Another advantage to coaster brakes and trigger shifting three speeds. One hand is safely free to hold the mug.

EDIT: I've got to admit when I cycle commuted for 5 years as an adult in Philadelphia from 1971-76. I never bothered even with a mug and just carried the 16oz returnable glassbottles in my hand while riding, with more in an insulted container on the rear rack. If there was a law against it the police couldn't have cared less what I did on a bike, and neither did I. I was lucky in that I had one head over handle bars accident (from a piece of wood in the front spokes) with a bottle in my hand. Fortunately the bottle flew out with the forward momentum and broke harmlessly farther on up the street. Wrecked the Raleigh Superbe Frame and lockable fork and cracked an elbow. The front wheel with Dyna hub suffered one broken spoke. Wow that wheel was strong and I used it for another 20 years on another bike.

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Spokes Pizza delivers pizza on bicycles in Minneapolis.
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i carry pizza home on an xtracycle on a regular basis. i know that at one point a major pizza chain was considering equipping all their stores with xtracycles for same.

i once looked hard into starting a bicycle-based food delivery service, or rather helping other people do so. do you know what killed it and the pizza chain plans?

insurance. the insurance companies of the businesses whose food was to be delivered freaked out at the thought, and quoted insane rate hikes. never underestimate lenders and insurers as anti-progressive forces in society.
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I used to deliver pizza via bicycle when I was a teenager. This was in Philly, and I was significantly faster and made more money than the drivers. I used a rear rack and a bungee cord.

Minimum wage + tips came out to $10-15/hour
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Here's how bicycle food delivery is done in Buenos Aires. Check out the pic half way down this page. Efficient, nothing to balance, and protected from the elements. This guys zipped all over town, and all night long (restaurants are open real late). Even on bad days they rush through fine restaurants to the kitchen raincoats drenched, and head back out. And probably getted tipped great those days too.

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i once looked hard into starting a bicycle-based food delivery service, or rather helping other people do so. do you know what killed it and the pizza chain plans?

insurance. the insurance companies of the businesses whose food was to be delivered freaked out at the thought, and quoted insane rate hikes. never underestimate lenders and insurers as anti-progressive forces in society.
Perhaps you should look into getting into the underwriting business. If the competing insurance companies are that far out of line maybe you can fill the need with offerings of "progressive" insurance rates for such delivery services.
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http://www.xtracycle.com/2009/01/15/dit-pizzaloader/

one step closer to the pizza dream
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Old 01-16-09, 11:07 AM   #22
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At least get a space blanket around those puppies.

But then again, having managed the day shift of a pizza parlour, I'm of the opinion that a pizza delivered is a pizza destroyed. Pizza should be consumed on-site when possible.
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I dunno about pizza, but I used to deliver sub sandwiches and stuff from Jimmy Johns in Madison, Wi. I would just toss everything in my messenger bag and I'd be off
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CETMA 5-rail rack: Perfect size for pizza delivery, nothing to construct, and it puts the pies out in front of you so you're more aware of assuring they don't get all banged around in transit.
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"Cold pizza in less than an hour, guaranteed!"

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Has anyone ever delivered pizza by bicycle? How was the experience? Is it feasible? One of my bikes has an xtracycle, which might be ideal for this.

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You'd be looking at low speeds and a very limited operating range with a bicycle.
This sounds like a job for scooter-man.

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The only time I've ever heard of that delivering pizza is a good job, , , , -is if you have a jacked-up 4WD and there's a big snowstorm--with snow so deep that most cars cannot drive at all (-or bicycles, neither-).

Under these circumstances, I have heard of guys making the equivalent of a week's pay in one night.
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