living car free
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Originally Posted by cerewa
Certain people like to say how the car-free forum is pretty smug. (And yes, the "smug emissions" thread reminded me of that.)
The OP is perhaps proof that smugness can come from people with and without cars. (I daresay it transcends politics too!)
The OP is perhaps proof that smugness can come from people with and without cars. (I daresay it transcends politics too!)
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Originally Posted by tfahrner
The picture of a genius!!! I love it!!
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I hope to achieve total zen someday..I think I will be on a bike at the time too
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Originally Posted by na975
sorry, i can't live without me car. the bikes cool but lets face it,you cant go to costcos to buy a sh$t load of stuff without it!
this is just awesome!!:
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Originally Posted by endless
most costco's offer a delivery service (i work there)
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I guess when you have a car it is the easy way to do things. They cost so much that if you were not to use it, it would be a waste.
Apperently owning a car is like a government. When there is a problem you just throw more money at it and hope things get better.
Apperently owning a car is like a government. When there is a problem you just throw more money at it and hope things get better.
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Originally Posted by na975
sorry, i can't live without me car. the bikes cool but lets face it,you cant go to costcos to buy a sh$t load of stuff without it!
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living car free
I really admire you folks that can live car free. You must all live in the city or at least near a small town or area where you can do your shopping using your bicycle or walking. I live a solid ten miles from any store and there are too many hills for me to traverse with a loaded bike unless I want to walk. When I lived in the city I rarely used my car and my wife and I walked everywhere or biked, plus we had a small garden in the back yard. After moving back to the country, where houses are less expensive, we have to use a automobile just to get to work on time. We aren't in our twenties anymore and commuting 56 miles a day five days a week would not work well, not to mention there are no buses for ten miles. I try to use my bike for anything within a ten mile radius. Church, paying the electric bill, visiting friends etc. but work demands that I be fresh and rested. I do plan to commute two days a week at one of my job locations but that is only a 36 mile round trip and will be done in the spring and summer only. Weather and darkness keep me from doing it year round. We try to limit our use of our cars and try to purchase our stuff after work and make our trips to town as productive as possible. I feel sorry for anyone that wants to ride but can't due to their profession or their need for a work truck with big heavy tools. Its a nice idea but a bit of a utopian one.
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Originally Posted by charles vail
I really admire you folks that can live car free. You must all live in the city or at least near a small town or area where you can do your shopping using your bicycle or walking. I live a solid ten miles from any store and there are too many hills for me to traverse with a loaded bike unless I want to walk. When I lived in the city I rarely used my car and my wife and I walked everywhere or biked, plus we had a small garden in the back yard. After moving back to the country, where houses are less expensive, we have to use a automobile just to get to work on time. We aren't in our twenties anymore and commuting 56 miles a day five days a week would not work well, not to mention there are no buses for ten miles. I try to use my bike for anything within a ten mile radius. Church, paying the electric bill, visiting friends etc. but work demands that I be fresh and rested. I do plan to commute two days a week at one of my job locations but that is only a 36 mile round trip and will be done in the spring and summer only. Weather and darkness keep me from doing it year round. We try to limit our use of our cars and try to purchase our stuff after work and make our trips to town as productive as possible. I feel sorry for anyone that wants to ride but can't due to their profession or their need for a work truck with big heavy tools. Its a nice idea but a bit of a utopian one.
PS we own a car, so I'm not totally car free, but I paid a lot to live 5 miles from work to avoid driving.
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Charles,
As cooker pointed out...we all make our choices. I used to live in a decent cycling city, made some choices that took away my ability to cycle commute. In many ways I regret those choices but life moves on. For the past 9 years I have not had a job that I could cycle commute to due to financial obligations (alimony, child support, college costs, etc) We are in the process of working our way back to the point I was at 15 years ago. In another 2-3 years we should be there. We will probably never be completely car free, but it will be a small car and get driven very infrequently. We currently live in what used to be a rural area, it is fast becoming suburban in fact 8,000 new homes are being built with in 2 miles of our 40 acres. It is looking like in a couple more years we will sell this place and move back into a small town where we have a retail shop. Or we may choose a different path and move somewhere totally different. IMHO too many people allow "stuff" (material things to get in the way of their lives) I know I did.
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As cooker pointed out...we all make our choices. I used to live in a decent cycling city, made some choices that took away my ability to cycle commute. In many ways I regret those choices but life moves on. For the past 9 years I have not had a job that I could cycle commute to due to financial obligations (alimony, child support, college costs, etc) We are in the process of working our way back to the point I was at 15 years ago. In another 2-3 years we should be there. We will probably never be completely car free, but it will be a small car and get driven very infrequently. We currently live in what used to be a rural area, it is fast becoming suburban in fact 8,000 new homes are being built with in 2 miles of our 40 acres. It is looking like in a couple more years we will sell this place and move back into a small town where we have a retail shop. Or we may choose a different path and move somewhere totally different. IMHO too many people allow "stuff" (material things to get in the way of their lives) I know I did.
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Yea.....the choice to live in the country wasn't difficult and I did manage to work from home for about 15 years or so. Only in the last few years I have had to commute to other locations for work but thats only part time with the other days of the week spent working from home. Still, I have a long route to make my rounds, although I plan to cycle this once a week, in fair weather, along with a bus ride. I was considering a Bike Friday to make the trips more convenient but havn't settled on that yet. Overall, I have managed to avoid the high cost of owning new cars and I have been able to write off my mileage with the Tax boys nearly paying me to drive my 1981 Izuzu. We've made choices that have been unconventional to most people, living cheap and avoiding too many material luxuries....except for cool bikes. Actually those are mostly 1970-1980's refurbs. I do have a newer recumbent and plan on a Long Haul Trucker for something that will hold up to alot of miles. I figure I can get maybe 15 years of riding it with the normal maintainance. My average mileage is only 2500-3000 per year but I plan to up that this next year. If I could do without a car I would for sure but not at this point in life. As I get closer to 60 or 65 things may change although this may not be for the better since health issues can change everything.
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Originally Posted by na975
sorry, i can't live without me car. the bikes cool but lets face it,you cant go to costcos to buy a sh$t load of stuff without it!
It won't make money for the economy; therefore WE don't support that.
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The Costco reason is pretty ridiculous. I have a couple of other issues, such as hauling raw materials to build with when I build things, and going out to shows, museums, etc. It's not possible to get to an LA museum (60 miles away) or show at night because there simply is no public transportation. The trains don't run late enough to be able to do a lot of the things that we want to do -- like support the local arts and such. It's pathetic, really. This huge metropolis and no way in or out on the weekends. Nor is there public transportation that runs to friends and family within 100 miles.
Even more pathetic is that there used to be an electric car line that ran from my city to LA in 60 minutes -- called the Red Line. It got lost in the conversion to automobiles and highways -- yes, this line ran in the early 20th C. and we have yet to recapture its efficiency.
Anyway that's what the wife and I use cars for mostly. For my part, I'll be biking a whole lot more for a while --
I sold my car today
Even more pathetic is that there used to be an electric car line that ran from my city to LA in 60 minutes -- called the Red Line. It got lost in the conversion to automobiles and highways -- yes, this line ran in the early 20th C. and we have yet to recapture its efficiency.
Anyway that's what the wife and I use cars for mostly. For my part, I'll be biking a whole lot more for a while --
I sold my car today