kjohnnytarr

I just realized that from now on, I can use being car-free as a defense against pushy vegetarians.

Nothing ruins a good steak like an avid vegetarian trying to guilt trip me. So next time they ask me how I can eat meat when I know it hurts animals, I ask them "how can you buy oil, knowing that it kills 1.2 mil each year?"

Artkansas 

Yeah, till you meet a car-free vegetarian. Then you're back where you started.

wheel

OR a vegan.

I would just say I need my complete protien for cycling. Something you can't give me.

vulpes

I think they would just argue that a vegitarian diet can supply complete proteins, like a combination of beans and rice is supposed to.

Cyclaholic

I tell them that it's 100% grain fed beef, so essentially I'm eating 100% grains just in a different form ...and that I am philosophically opposed to cruelty to plants because combine harvesters are a cruel and barbaric method of ending a wheat stalk's life.

davidmcowan

Turns out that we as humans tend to overconsume proteins. A sensible vegetarian diet can more than supply the daily needed amount of protein. It just doesn't taste as good.

gosmsgo

Every Vegan I know looks like they are about to die.

I met a man in kentucky at a cycling thing and as soon as he walked through the door I said to myself, "vegan."


Sure enough.

Im sure there are exceptions to that rule and there is a big difference between a vegan and say a vegetarian who eats fish, eggs etc.

davidmcowan

I think our perception of how healthy looks is a little bit skewed these days. I would agree that if you do not mindfully make sure that all of your vegan foods are fulfilling your daily requirements you will have troubles looking "healthy".

vulpes

The one I'm waiting for is the Microbial Rights Movement. "Ban antibiotics, bacteria are god's creatures, too."

scattered73

Yeah, what's up with that? Most I know look unhealthy. One guy I know is vegan is about 6'2 and probbably wears a size 26-28 waist and would guess weighs in around 130 or so. First time I met him I figured he was strung out on drugs, found out later he doesen't drink or use drugs. Really a great guy but man he looks scary thin. I have to admit though every so often I have a vegitarian day, but I love beef jerky to much to even think of that life style more than a day.

wahoonc

+1!

I guess I might have to do penance for all those poor microbes and bacteria(not to mention fungi, molds and viruses) we "murdered" for the sake of research in microbiology

Aaron

turkdc

A vegetarian diet does supply complete proteins. It's just that vegetarians are so damn tough...

turk

JeffS

Maybe tomorrow you will wake up with a more logical idea - 'cause this one is ridiculous.

maddyfish

My vegan sister in-law is a vegan. She looks like death as well.

Weeks

The thing is, I'm not so concerned about living forever and being healthy that I'm willing to put off the fantastic joys of juicy steak and spicy chicken for 40 years.

As for cruelty to animals, eh. You can't win 'em all, and animals exist to be eaten, I say!

maddyfish

I'm sure the vego-nazis will be along shortly to attack.

huerro

I think people in the U.S. just tend to have bad eating habits and vegans are no better than the rest of us. I know a fair few healthy (and healthy looking) vegans and two that are definitely on the chubby side. I also know plenty that look like death warmed over. Considering that about 32% of the adult population is overweight or obese, it makes sense that vegans would make equally poor eating decisions.

Just for the record, you can file me under car-lite, non-overweight, meat-eater.

huerro

I know it hurts your precious feelings when someone yells at you for eating meat, but comparing that to the systematic slaughter of *****exuals, POWs, the disabled, Jehova's Witnesses, not to mention the wholesale genocide of Jews and the Roma, and of course massive militarism and political repression is a bit of a stretch.

How about vego-McCarthyites of vego-PMRC instead?

gosmsgo

I work with a girl who is a vegetarian.

This is a true story.

One day she was going on and on about the ills of meat and how bad it is for people. As she was telling us this she was eating her normal lunch of french fries and a bottle of coke.

That just about killed me. I was trying so hard NOT to call her an idiot.

hotwheels

Tell them if "we" couldn't eat steak, cows would go extinct -competition for land and all.

huerro

No..they'd still hang on in India

niknak

I'm surprised all of this vege-bashing is coming from people on the car-free forum, which is full of threads on saving money, helping the environment and how oil companies control the world.

vulpes

I hope this link works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihDGCswNvSk

vulpes

I have to agree, at least to some extent. The current meat production methods with grain feeding in factory farms is definitely disgusting and very wasteful and anti-environmental. If all the cattle were raised with grazing alone, and on land already available for that, I don't think it would be so objectionable since cattle graze on vegetable matter that humans cannot consume directly, but only after being processed by a ruminant digestive system and converted into the ruminant's body mass.

I rarely eat beef myself. I prefer pork, especially long pig. I tried hufu, but it just wasn't the same.

gosmsgo

cattle spend the first 1.5 years of their life on grass and then spend the last couple weeks in a feed lot.

If I here the factory farming lie about beef one more time I think I will vomit.