Cars, Humanity, and Community
I've been pondering this for some time now, and it's certainly not an original idea; however, I wanted to put it in writing anyway. It seems that I notice people doing things in their cars that they would not ever do as a pedestrian or a cyclist. I don't know what it is about the feeling of security and anonymity that a 3,000 pound cage affords its occupants, but it's a pretty powerful thing. I've noticed since moving into an urban neighborhood with loads of pedestrians that my neighbors seem so much more human, more real, less like items in a human filing cabinet. And somehow I think this is in direct correlation that we, as a whole, spend much less time "dehumanizing" every single day than most of our counterparts in the suburbs.
I've also noticed this same phenomenon on the bike when someone was done something really stupid in traffic to me, only to get caught at the next red light next to me. Almost invariably these people squirm when I look at them directly, since I'm no longer just an obstacle on their path. I'm now an actual human being who is looking at them face to face... someone's son... a fiance... a father... an actual person. When this happens, I think of the larger repercussions of auto culture and how it's destroying our communities in a very profound way. As people drive more and more miles every single day, they spend more time seeing other people as simply occupants of an obstacle. It takes the human completely out of the equation, and that idea is very powerful to me, as someone who spends very little time surrounded by obstacles and much more surrounded by, well, people. Anyway, that was just a thought I had today on the bike. Take it for what it's worth. |
I've seen pedestrians and cyclists act less than human too. Lots of times.
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Car culture also leads to building everything on a gigantic, non human scale. Something's wrong when you have to walk a mile just to cross the street.
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Originally Posted by Platy
(Post 5195370)
Car culture also leads to building everything on a gigantic, non human scale. Something's wrong when you have to walk a mile just to cross the street.
Aaron:) |
Originally Posted by bpohl
(Post 5195267)
Almost invariably these people squirm when I look at them directly, since I'm no longer just an obstacle on their path. I'm now an actual human being who is looking at them face to face... someone's son... a fiance... a father... an actual person.
Do you find see motorists in a different way as a result? Do you see them not just as drivers but as actual human beings who have their own complex lives? Getting to this point, where those of us who use the roads will think of each other as people first and traffic second, can spark positive changes. |
Originally Posted by Newspaperguy
(Post 5195784)
I think you've touched on something quite profound here. You're willing to make eye contact with people in a world in which that is increasingly rare. In some places, pedestrians don't even make eye contact with each other. You are making a connection with these drivers, and in doing so, you are also causing them to make a connection with you.
Do you find see motorists in a different way as a result? Do you see them not just as drivers but as actual human beings who have their own complex lives? Getting to this point, where those of us who use the roads will think of each other as people first and traffic second, can spark positive changes. |
Originally Posted by Roody
(Post 5196327)
You can't make eye contact with everybody you meet, or get to know them as your buddy, so follow the laws, treat people as you want to be treated. Whether they're on bike, foot, car or donkeyback.
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bpohl, do you want to write this up as a blog entry? (for http://bikeculturetheory.wordpress.com)?
i have some thoughts on this as well, as well as some interesting sociological lit on the topic to add to it, we could make it a collaborative post. anyhow, yes, the duhaminization of modes of transport as well as many other technologies (that Marshall McLuhan points out become like so many prostheses for human action and agency) fundamentally alter our relations with one another as human beings. the car vs. bike, car vs. pedestrian dynamic is imbued with a whole host of power relationships where the auto functions as a kind of strange, de-facto impetus for sadism. J (eichenlaub@gmail.com) |
Originally Posted by Newspaperguy
(Post 5196980)
I agree, Roody. But somehow we also need to remember that inside every car is a human driver, no matter how much the vehicle may insulate and isolate him or her from the rest of the world. The Golden Rule — treating others as we would like to be treated — is about how people behave towards each other, not about how we interact with machines.
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Originally Posted by bpohl
(Post 5195267)
I've been pondering this for some time now, and it's certainly not an original idea; however, I wanted to put it in writing anyway. It seems that I notice people doing things in their cars that they would not ever do as a pedestrian or a cyclist. I don't know what it is about the feeling of security and anonymity that a 3,000 pound cage affords its occupants, but it's a pretty powerful thing. I've noticed since moving into an urban neighborhood with loads of pedestrians that my neighbors seem so much more human, more real, less like items in a human filing cabinet. And somehow I think this is in direct correlation that we, as a whole, spend much less time "dehumanizing" every single day than most of our counterparts in the suburbs.
I've also noticed this same phenomenon on the bike when someone was done something really stupid in traffic to me, only to get caught at the next red light next to me. Almost invariably these people squirm when I look at them directly, since I'm no longer just an obstacle on their path. I'm now an actual human being who is looking at them face to face... someone's son... a fiance... a father... an actual person. When this happens, I think of the larger repercussions of auto culture and how it's destroying our communities in a very profound way. As people drive more and more miles every single day, they spend more time seeing other people as simply occupants of an obstacle. It takes the human completely out of the equation, and that idea is very powerful to me, as someone who spends very little time surrounded by obstacles and much more surrounded by, well, people. Anyway, that was just a thought I had today on the bike. Take it for what it's worth. |
Originally Posted by bpohl
(Post 5195267)
When this happens, I think of the larger repercussions of auto culture and how it's destroying our communities in a very profound way.
You can stare down most motorists since we live in a so called dangerous society and fear is everywhere. Road rage is a good example of this fear turned into hate. |
Originally Posted by bragi
(Post 5198505)
I think this is a bit unfair. Car culture can be unpleasant for people who aren't in cars, true, and it does really mess up our urban public spaces, but I'm not convinced it dehumanizes the drivers of the cars. Every time a motorist yells, "Get on the sidewalk, a**hole!" I don't feel that I'm interacting with an automaton; I'm reasonably certain that it's a very human jerk behnd the wheel of that SUV. At such times, I don't blame the vehicle, I blame the driver. And let's not even pretend that bicylists are that much more connected to their surroundings than car drivers. I've seen more than my share of fellow cyclists who, when on their bikes, act like the Borg.
Aaron:) |
I've had similar thoughts about humanity in the U.S. The less time one spends with others in a public situation the easier it is to not think about the common good. A friend once said to me he wished it was the old days when it was every man for himself. I asked if he ever heard about a barn raising or a bucket brigade or saw a wagon train movie. Now it's get in a cage, go to a cage and come home to a cage with minimum interaction with other people, this makes road rage possible because the victim is not human anymore.
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Originally Posted by bpohl
(Post 5195267)
the larger repercussions of auto culture
I think, personally, that car use has altered my mind a bit. I think that because I am used to using this appliance that allows me to go places fast, after a time I expect that I should go fast, and that after some more time anything that prevents me from going fast (heavy traffic, Sunday drivers) is a bad thing, and that after even more time getting places in the least possible amount of time becomes almost an end in itself. Of course I can't prove this, but it seems that after five years of regular commuting to work by bicycle I don't think the same way that I did before about things like travel time, appropriate transportation technology, and so on. |
Originally Posted by wahoonc
(Post 5198719)
I have had things thrown at me from cars and trucks, noted the license number, reported it and been told that unless the officer sees the incident there is nothing they can do about it.
Aaron:) Getting back on track: I really don't think it's the cars that make people less human. I encounter hundreds of drivers every day who actually act as though I, on the bike, am a human being who shouldn't be run over. Many of them even go out of their way to be polite, sometimes to an extent that unnecessarily screws up the flow of traffic. It's the media that dehumanizes. Especially reality TV. That stuff makes it seem okay to be a self-absorbed idiot who doesn't actually think about anything serious or give a damn about others. |
Remember the movie "Crocodile Dundee"? When Mic was riding as a passenger in a limousine in New York City on his way to his hotel, he had his window rolled down and was talking to people on the street in a very familiar manner. One guy seemed annoyed that someone he didn't know would talk to him at all. The conversation was so out of place for him. Mic just treated everyone with kindness and respect. I really liked that series of movies.
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Originally Posted by bragi
(Post 5203626)
Getting back on track: I really don't think it's the cars that make people less human. I encounter hundreds of drivers every day who actually act as though I, on the bike, am a human being who shouldn't be run over. Many of them even go out of their way to be polite, sometimes to an extent that unnecessarily screws up the flow of traffic.
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Originally Posted by Newspaperguy
(Post 5196980)
I agree, Roody. But somehow we also need to remember that inside every car is a human driver, no matter how much the vehicle may insulate and isolate him or her from the rest of the world. The Golden Rule — treating others as we would like to be treated — is about how people behave towards each other, not about how we interact with machines.
We've built our own problem with the car culture. There was a thread in Commuting about how maybe, we should face reality and should build more freeways to ease congestion on surface streets. People, all around the world, want to drive. They love their cars. They go into debt for years to buy a car. The sense of freedom, or power, or whatever it is, is unavoidable attractive to the average person. |
I became of aware of this phenomenon years ago. People in cars will treat other people terribly in ways they would never treat people otherwise. I have observed this phenomenon in people that I know well. I amazes me how mean and aggressive people can be, who are normally very kind and gentle.
I'm sure someone will point out that there are many well-behaved drivers out there. I don't deny it. |
it's called "cager-balls"
they're fun to crush on occasion ;) |
Originally Posted by acroy
(Post 5220597)
it's called "cager-balls"
they're fun to crush on occasion ;) http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=340910 |
Cars are nice places to pick your nose. And I've felt bad for the two women I've seen looking deep into thier mouths at stop lights. Oh yeah there was the dude I saw using hair tweezers on his face with tremendous vigor. When I pointed it out to the other folks in the Van, we all started to laugh, the dude heard the boisterous laughter and looked up totally embarassed.
Jokes aside I think that you really are on to something about cars dehumanizing us. Ever wonder why there are so few hitch hikers anymore? When I lived in South Africa a few years back, it was common to simply stop for walkers, without regard for race or social status. I've thought about doing this at bus stops but I did not do it. It would be too wierd. Sad but just by giving strangers a ride, we could save so much as a country. It really makes you wonder how "good" do we have it? |
Originally Posted by slagjumper
(Post 5253420)
...Ever wonder why there are so few hitch hikers anymore? When I lived in South Africa a few years back, it was common to simply stop for walkers, without regard for race or social status. I've thought about doing this at bus stops but I did not do it. It would be too wierd. Sad but just by giving strangers a ride, we could save so much as a country...
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Originally Posted by bpohl
(Post 5195267)
I don't know what it is about the feeling of security and anonymity that a 3,000 pound cage affords its occupants, but it's a pretty powerful thing. I've noticed since moving into an urban neighborhood with loads of pedestrians that my neighbors seem so much more human, more real, less like items in a human filing cabinet. And somehow I think this is in direct correlation that we, as a whole, spend much less time "dehumanizing" every single day than most of our counterparts in the suburbs.
I've felt the same anonymity walking down a busy London street, though, while wearing a plain coat and my face hidden by a black umbrella. The thing that sets people apart most from everyone else is a face. Without a face, you're pretty much anonymous, and a car is like a mask in that regard. |
Originally Posted by Eli_Damon
I became of aware of this phenomenon years ago. People in cars will treat other people terribly in ways they would never treat people otherwise. I have observed this phenomenon in people that I know well. I amazes me how mean and aggressive people can be, who are normally very kind and gentle.
I also know some drivers who remain safe and civil on the road, but are really stressed out by driving. I'd be sitting next to them as they're driving, and they'd be displaying good road behaviour in every regard, but muttering curses under their breath about these stupid pedestrians crowding the streets and those bloody cyclists who shouldn't be on the road (they will do a full lane change to pass though) and that jerk who cut them off and the goddam traffic jams. About the only time they're relaxed is when they're driving on some depressing multilane monstrosity where there are no peds or cyclists or traffic jams. To me, driving on such roads feels so much like a videogame, and a BORING one at that. I'd much rather play the exciting videogame called "dodging traffic and streetcar tracks on your bike in downtown Toronto". :lol: |
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