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metro2005 04-21-11 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Roody (Post 12511258)
Welcome! We love having another voice from Holland, the Nirvana of bicycle commuting.

Thank you! Biking in holland is really great compared to other countries. Seperate bikepaths are a real blessing but has its drawbacks too.
Often the bikepath take the 'scenic' route and can be quite a detour compared to the motorways but we are getting more and more bicycle 'highways' so thats promising.
There is also a lot of other bike riders so you have to constantly overtake other people which can be annoying on some narrower bikepaths. Some bikepaths are in bad condition and you are not allowed to ride on the road if theres a bikepath available so that can be a pain sometimes too when you see the smooth asfalt for the cars and you have to drive over a bad bikepath.

Other that that: i love my bikes and i love riding them!

and @ sandlotje, i wish gas was 3,80 ... it's almost 9 dollars a gallon at the moment in Holland...

wphamilton 04-24-11 11:09 PM

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I don't get criticism, but I do sell it so well nobody bothers. When people ask about my bike riding every day, I outline how much money I've saved each month, how much cash ...
Around here (Atlanta) a cyclist has to be "training" or else tearing up a trail on mountain bikes. Commuting is eccentric, possibly a death-wish. So when people ask me about it they tend to list those excuses for me themselves, staying healthy saving money etc. I just tell them I do it because I like it.

I drive a car in serious weather, to reassure people that I'm sane as much as for any other reason.

yosarian 04-26-11 05:40 PM

I have been (almost) car free for almost 10 years. Using mostly public transport and now I am going to start to use my new bike. I only drive a few times a year the company car to do some on site work.
I live on Lower Mainland, BC, Canada, here there are a lot of people commuting to work.

Antaresia 05-08-11 03:38 AM

I've been car free for over a decade...but I've also been bike free in that time. I just haven't needed one, living in either a small town where everything is walkable, or a large city with great public transit. I get my new(well, used) bike in a few days and I'm super excited!

I'm pretty much in the exact same situation as the poster above me, right down to living in the lower mainland. I've used my company van to move a few times, but I had a friend drive since it's been way too long for me.

Staylucky 05-10-11 12:18 PM

I haven't owned a car in over a year and I really don't miss it. I have found that 95% of the travel I need to do is accomplished easily by bike or public transit.

I will however consider myself car lite. I will rent a car maybe one weekend a month to see family and friends living too far to bike to, or outside of a public transit system.

Also, I use zipcar here and there for the occasional trip to the grocery store or Home Depot. A 2x4 is really hard to balance on a bike.

hukapits 05-29-11 03:52 AM

I've been car light for more than 5 years using my bike as my transporter especially to work and whenever I can go by it. A lot of constrains here in Jakarta when wanting bike as our only transportation since we got no supports from regulator and very-very minimum facilities for bicycle. I still use my car when I have to go with my family since (I think) it's impossible to take 3 children and their mom on a bike...

Roody 05-30-11 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by hukapits (Post 12709026)
I've been car light for more than 5 years using my bike as my transporter especially to work and whenever I can go by it. A lot of constrains here in Jakarta when wanting bike as our only transportation since we got no supports from regulator and very-very minimum facilities for bicycle. I still use my car when I have to go with my family since (I think) it's impossible to take 3 children and their mom on a bike...

I have read that Jakarta has many carfree areas and carfree days. How is that working out for people?

:welcome:

The Chemist 06-05-11 04:48 AM

I've been car-free since I moved to Shanghai back in August 2007. I get around on my commuter bicycle (usually 3 or 4 work days per week) or using my electric scooter, often in conjunction with Shanghai's excellent Metro system (the world's largest). If I need to go further afield than the Metro can take me, there are plenty of buses or trains that can take me anywhere I need to go - and if I absolutely, positively couldn't get there by bike/public transport, I could rent a car (although I haven't yet had need to do so).

I will not be buying a car for as long as I live in Shanghai - it simply isn't necessary or practical to own a car here.

Roody 06-05-11 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Chemist (Post 12741668)
I've been car-free since I moved to Shanghai back in August 2007. I get around on my commuter bicycle (usually 3 or 4 work days per week) or using my electric scooter, often in conjunction with Shanghai's excellent Metro system (the world's largest). If I need to go further afield than the Metro can take me, there are plenty of buses or trains that can take me anywhere I need to go - and if I absolutely, positively couldn't get there by bike/public transport, I could rent a car (although I haven't yet had need to do so).

I will not be buying a car for as long as I live in Shanghai - it simply isn't necessary or practical to own a car here.

Very interesting. :)

From what I've been reading in the western press, it seems like the Chinese are having second thoughts about encouraging car ownership and use. Where do you think they will go with transportation policies?

Also, what kind of bike do you ride in Shanghai? Did you buy it in China or take it with you?

Reesh 06-13-11 06:04 AM

I'm a car lite lady and proud! I've been bike commuting to work for three years (when it's not below 40-- haven't gotten that hardcore yet) and now I've been sharing my car with my boyfriend for the last six months. In fact, I can't imagine having two cars between the two of us anymore... it just seems wasteful.

St. Louis is not the best city for car free living and I'd have to walk into some pretty sketchy areas to catch the bus (as a young woman, this does not appeal to me), but otherwise the city is great for bike commuting. There are plenty of roads with bike lanes, and for the most part drivers are attentive and courteous. It also helps to know some of the back ways around the streets with heavier traffic. I've got my car when I need to go somewhere in the middle of the night, or when I need to haul something (like materials for my chickens, or the veggie garden I run at my workplace).

hukapits 06-15-11 05:21 PM

Actually there is no such a car free area in Jakarta but car free days (CFD), yes there we have. CFD come on 2nd and last sunday of every month when no cars or any other engine-powered transportation are allowed to pass certain main road areas between 6 AM-12 AM. Citizens use these days as a sport-leisure day where they can jog, cycle or just walk with family.

Roody 06-16-11 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hukapits (Post 12793495)
Actually there is no such a car free area in Jakarta but car free days (CFD), yes there we have. CFD come on 2nd and last sunday of every month when no cars or any other engine-powered transportation are allowed to pass certain main road areas between 6 AM-12 AM. Citizens use these days as a sport-leisure day where they can jog, cycle or just walk with family.

Interesting. What is it like to cycle in Jakarta?

noglider 06-17-11 02:58 PM

My local editor of patch.com (a hyperlocal news site) invited me to keep a blog on the side. So far, it's about my living car-light, though it will eventually branch out. I've gotten a lot of good feedback, and other editors of Patch have started to carry it. Last I knew, it's carried on eight sites.

http://maplewood.patch.com/users/noglider/blog_posts

Roody 06-17-11 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by noglider (Post 12803127)
My local editor of patch.com (a hyperlocal news site) invited me to keep a blog on the side. So far, it's about my living car-light, though it will eventually branch out. I've gotten a lot of good feedback, and other editors of Patch have started to carry it. Last I knew, it's carried on eight sites.

http://maplewood.patch.com/users/noglider/blog_posts

It sounds like you're doing good work there in NJ. Good luck on the blog too.

:)

noglider 06-18-11 06:07 PM

Thanks. It's an uphill battle. Lots of folks think I'm nuts. Or some sort of Olympian athlete. Or on the fringe. Or whatever. I'm writing in a way that (I hope) will show that you don't have to be nuts, and you don't even have to do everything I do.

Today, I went to the town recycling center (dump) with my bike. I carried an old computer in my kiddie trailer.

hartlean 06-27-11 07:22 PM

Hey, great thread!

Since moving to Coastal NC Iíve been bicycling to work almost every day, rain or shine, roughly 14 miles round trip. Unfortunately, the main roads in our small city can be dangerous, but Iím fortunate to have a flexible work schedule, & there are some side roads most of the way in case I do need to ride home during rush hour. My employer even provides showers & locker rooms, so I can arrive at my office clean, cool & refreshed. I count myself very blessed.

libero 06-30-11 01:28 AM

Tokyo
 
hey

it's easy to be car free in Tokyo.
Well, I take taxis occasionally - does that count? And I rent a car when I visit USA.
Have not owned a car in 9 years.

Own 3 bicycles now (here) and 1 in storage in USA. Fortunate enough to live just 4km from my office. I can cycle, take a bus, take a train, and combine different distances of walking to make the bus or train a little easier or cheaper.

Of course, this abode is not palatial. But nicer than most units the masses have in this town.

I thought it would be lousy to be cycling in Tokyo - with narrow streets and kind of crowded. But after getting into it more, it's easy to find empty streets, since all the autos pretty much head for the main thoroughfare, which goes a little faster, and I can just cruise through all these neighborhood streets at cycling speed.

There are excellent delivery services for most things. I haul plenty of stuff on my mtn bike / rack equipped. In a pinch, I could rent a car as I have done on a few out-of-town travel occasions. So I don't really move things around by car.
So far so good.

They do have nice hybrid and electric cars out now so I may reconsider sometime, especially as the family grows. But it's not just about Eco.

NooBicycle 06-30-11 04:13 PM

Although I'm still a child at 24, I haven't had the need for a car. Heck, I've never gotten my license. I've lived in small towns, La Crosse Wisconsin and Decorah Iowa, and big towns, St. Louis MO and Minneapolis MN, and I still haven't seen the need for cars in cities. People live way too much out of their means. It's only been two weeks in Minneapolis, and no I haven't experienced a winter commute here yet, but I just see no reason why we need so many damned cars on the road. Minneapolis is a great city to bike. There are bicycle lanes on most major roads, plenty of space on backroads, and the bicycle freeways are just beautiful. If all cities, no matter their climate could support it's biking culture like Minneapolis and Seattle do, the world would be a happier, healthier, less toxic place.

Nate916 07-05-11 08:00 PM

Car Free since April. Bogus DUI in new mexico that I never took care of. I should probably get on that...

mellie 07-07-11 03:52 AM

My family lives in a great place to be car free. We are in a university city with crazy good bus lines. I have two children ages 3 and 13 and I am a 41 year old homeschooling mom. We ride our bikes as many places as we can and use the bus for the rest. My husband works at the university and takes the bus to work every day. We save $50 a month by not having to pay for a parking pass.

Rona 07-13-11 03:04 AM

Hi! I'm car free in the Groningen, Netherlands area. I moved here a year ago and I really love it. Survived my first winter snow without a car. Pretty awesome.

I now have a fleet of bikes and I can't seem to stop collecting them. I need more room!!!!

Rona

Roody 07-13-11 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mellie (Post 12891570)
My family lives in a great place to be car free. We are in a university city with crazy good bus lines. I have two children ages 3 and 13 and I am a 41 year old homeschooling mom. We ride our bikes as many places as we can and use the bus for the rest. My husband works at the university and takes the bus to work every day. We save $50 a month by not having to pay for a parking pass.

Welcome to the forum. Believe it or not, there are some people here who believe there is no such thing as a carfree family with children! so your input will be very welcome.

Roody 07-13-11 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rona (Post 12920924)
Hi! I'm car free in the Groningen, Netherlands area. I moved here a year ago and I really love it. Survived my first winter snow without a car. Pretty awesome.

I now have a fleet of bikes and I can't seem to stop collecting them. I need more room!!!!

Rona

Welcome! To many of us, Holland is the mecca of carfree cycling. I look forward to reading your perspective on carfree living.

I-Like-To-Bike 07-13-11 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Roody (Post 12922665)
Believe it or not, there are some people here who believe there is no such thing as a carfree family with children!

Really? Who made that statement here?

Rona 07-14-11 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Roody (Post 12922674)
Welcome! To many of us, Holland is the mecca of carfree cycling. I look forward to reading your perspective on carfree living.

Oh yes... it's quite the Mecca. Groningen is one of the best car-free areas in the world. :D


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