You misunderstand. Again. My "scenario" was meant to be tongue-in-cheek, and it had nothing to do with lowered production.
I think you probably failed to notice the winky emoticon in my response to Machka, so you went and got all serious on me. Sorry about the misunderstanding! My joke--not very funny to start with--is totally lame now that I've screwed up two or three attempts to explain it.
"Think Outside the Cage"
NYTimes had a good issue of their magazine this weekend which was all about carbon footprints. One article in particular talked about how of driving is being subsidized by people who don't drive and that the cost of gas and taxes on cars doesn't come close to paying for all the upkeep regarding cars (such as car accidents cost about 220$ billion a year.) The article recommended an additional 2$ gas tax per gallon and pay-as-you-go car insurance.
My preferred bicycle brand is.......WORKSMAN CYCLES
I dislike clipless pedals on any city bike since I feel they are unsafe.
Originally Posted by krazygluon
Steel: nearly a thousand years of metallurgical development
Aluminum: barely a hundred, which one would you rather have under your butt at 30mph?
CNN had a nice little report this morning about people getting squeezed by high gas prices. They had some tips on how to ease the pain. Their list included an e-mail service to send you the list of cheapest gas in your area each day. A text message service that does the same thing. Buying your gas at a wholesaler like Sam's Club, etc. They failed to mention driving less, car pooling, taking the bus, riding your bike, living in an area where you can walk to work . . .
Grr . . .
I spend the weekends in Sonoma County, and commute from Healdsburg to Sunnyvale where I work on Monday AM. I've been doing this for about 5 months, almost every Monday AM.
First leg - SCT Bus #60 Healdsburg to Santa Rosa, 5:10 AM. For 4 months this bus always had the exact same 4 people on it, a toothless biker guy, old Asian nurse lady, me, and Sam The Driver. The last 2 weeks we have 2 new riders.
Second Leg - Golden Gate Transit 72 from Santa Rosa to San Francisco, 5:48 AM. This bus is pretty nice, nice seats, lights, and an under the bus bike rack that slides out from under the bus and locks. $8.40 one way, $6.75 if you have Translink, which is a good deal given 60 miles of driving and a $5 Bridge toll. 5 months ago, when I first boarded this bus, I thought it was pretty cool that a BUS was 50% full mostly with SF Financial district workers, people working on laptops and the like. This morning there were exactly THREE seats empty. One problem - there is only room for 2 bikes, this morning for the first time there was a second biker, my commute could be in jeopardy of a bumping situation.
Third Leg - Caltrain from SF to Sunnyvale, 7:44 AM Caltrain ridership is at an alltime record as of February and continues to climb. Bike car full (32) per usual. I met my buddy and we racked our bikes. Back in the day we could find an empty 2 seat to sit together, or 2 singles near each other, in the bike car. No dice. Go to the next car. Packed. Back to the bike car to share 2 seaters across the aisle from each other with other riders.
I really think that it's ON. The GG Transit bus being that full was shocking. It is not a bus where standing room really makes any sense - what happens when the buses start being full? The problem is that the capacity problem is appearing very quickly, the solutions are very slow. Even if the transit agencies had extra rolling stock their bueracracy is brutal. But if they are short on buses or trains, the turnaround time to add more rolling stock is very long and demand could be very high.
There is something in here that addresses The Historian and Machka's retort to Roody. People will lose jobs but new jobs will be created. Someone has to make buses, trains, solar panels, windmills, etc... And those that adapt best will be ahead of the game. Roody is right. Of course Roody is smart enough to adapt, be car free and thus be ahead of his competition who does not use gasoline. But Roody is also really dumb in that he lives in Lansing Michigan where he has to figure out how to heat his abode and he is farther away from year round food supplies - the garden in Healdsburg can be rotated into crops that will feed me seasonally. Not to say that Michigan does not produce an abundance in season.
Murph - "hmm... those peaches are starting to come in already... yumm..."
Don't parents raise stubborn/cheap SOB's anymore? My dad's constant drumming about saving a penny here and there gives you a dollar after a hundred here and theres, lead me to conclude at $2/ga. that I didn't want to buy more gas just for commuting.
My family in the Northeast is getting clobbered by heating oil prices, they are all making arrangements to move further south in the next few years. But again they were all raised with this great depression era "It causes me physical pain to open my wallet" attitude that seems to be missing from many americans. Do you think a large population shift (north to south, and subburban to urban ) is in the future?
This may be the first time in my lifetime where a gallon of gas costs more than a gallon of milk.
Bread? forget about it, it's expensive (to me), even the preservative ladened stuff.
sure you can go to the outlets that sell stuff that's close to the expiration date but
even those stores are leaving being replaced by new condos.
Moving south may ameliorate the cost of heating, but it creates a new problem, access to water. Most of the areas in the north east get plenty of rain/snow melt and the great lakes are right there for Michigan and NY, etc. This is not the case with say, Atlanta and mass migration is only going to make the water supply problems worse.
One note about cheap good bread. I make this recipe all the time (less in summer). The technique got a lot of publicity when it first came out -for good reason.
Edit: As to $4 being enough? I don't know what the threshold is from a macroeconomic perspective, but I'd think it's a lot higher just because of necessity. The original article (4-8-08) says $4 this summer -now I'm hearing $5 this summer.
Last edited by hotwheels; 04-21-08 at 04:27 PM. Reason: Uncompleted thoughts
I love to commute and ride. Keeping a positive focus.
noisebeam, I really don't think the energy used by the machine & washing the utensils is more than the energy used by the machines at the commercial bakery, the factory that makes the plastic bags, the delivery truck that takes the loaf of bread to the store, and the gas used by the consumer who drives to and from the store to buy the bread, then throws away the plastic bag without recycling it...
They're already trying to steal our Great Lakes water (20 % of the entire world supply). We will fight to keep it here.Originally Posted by NYU SOM
"Think Outside the Cage"
"Think Outside the Cage"
Usually, I make enough enough for two pizzas and two loaves of bread. I normally do this every weekend and we all seem to enjoy the result.
I think you are all right about the cost of bread. Good bread costs about $4.50 now for a 1.5 pound loaf. I can make bread for quite a bit less than that. [Although it might be $8 a loaf if you include the electricity need to bake it ]
Ours isn't!! Send your extra 2 weeks up this way!! On Thursday the farmers were in the fields getting ready to seed. On Friday the blizzard blew through the entire province of Alberta and hasn't let up since. We've got a foot of snow out there ... at the end of April. And BC had it's coldest spring on record, complete with some of this snow. I have a really, really tough time believing in global warming ... I can believe climate change because the climate is cyclic and changes all the time, but when I'm sitting here staring at a scene from the middle of January, at the end of April .......
Count me in on the confused about bread machines. They don't produce bread that's better than what I can do by hand and with the oven. I don't make bread more often than once a week tho... a 1lb loaf is about as much as we can manage to eat in a week.